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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 10:34 AM
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Russert just included Social Security in the 2006 budget
Yet I have seen numerous fiscal budgets WITHOUT Social Security. In that chart Russert had, Social Security dominates the budget and makes the Defense portion look small. What is the proper budget???

:shrug:
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 10:38 AM
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1. It looks a lot more like this:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 10:48 AM
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4. thats what I've seen almost everywhere
I guess it doesnt look good for GE, NBC, and Russert if they show the proper chart.
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 11:13 AM
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7. Hmmm - it seems that "X" must have a better lobbyist than the others.
I have a personal preference for "E", but perhaps years of dominance as the top vowel has led to a slothful attitude.

Professor Xavier might have had a say in this also. Darn those sneaky mutants!
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 12:03 PM
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9. X is those things deemed "Secret".
Your Government has determined you are better off not knowing about those items. In seriousness, it is the "Black Budget" for things like NSA spying & such...
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 03:21 PM
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11. That's the Discretionary budget
or the budget that congress controlls.

The largest part of the budget is non-discretionary, meaning the money goes out as per a formula that congress does not have to vote on.

Those are social security, medicare and medicaid.

I guess it would sort of be that the budget drawn above is yourt family's spending money but doesn't include the monthly bills that represent two-thirds of your budget but happen automatically like mortgage, insurance, etc.

For the last 30 years the discretionary part of the budget has become a smaller percentage of the total budget every year as medicare and social security costs have skyrocketed.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 03:22 PM
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12. Where's interest on the debt?
Isn't that about 25 % of the total budget now?
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 10:38 AM
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2. It's Russert for goodness sake. Anything to make the money being
flushed down the tube for this illegal, immoral, unwinnable war will be used to make the bush** admin look good and mitigate their crimes.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 10:44 AM
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3. Iraq spending is "off the budget" no?
That is, neither of those charts include what Bush has spent on his bullshit war.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 10:50 AM
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5. Iraq spending might be outside the budget
but defense is not and for the last few decades defense spending has been nearly half of the budget.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 12:04 PM
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10. Correct it is paid for with so called "Supplementals"
Budgetary Legerdemain...
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 11:09 AM
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6. Social Security more than pays its way but..
the Republicans have taken what is left over and spent it on taxcuts and the war.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 11:14 AM
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8. Clinton made it so that it more than paid its way, to save for the
baby-boomer bubble.

Al Gore pledged not to touch it, aka "lock-box" and was ridiculed for it.

I am sure you know all that, but sometimes it serves to show just how wrong someone could be to show SS like a normal budgetary item.

It is like a banker using customer depostits as their personal wealth.


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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 03:26 PM
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13. Raise the $90K salary cap, roll back the tax cuts
Edited on Sun Sep-03-06 03:26 PM by rocknation
"crisis" solved.

:headbang:
rocknation
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 03:35 PM
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14. no kidding, but NOBODY wants to talk about the 90k salary cap
Cant take more money from the rich you know! :sarcasm:
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