Santorum & Casey debating on MTP now. Ricky is pissed!

[napi21]

He's not talking, he's yelling his answers.

[spanone]

1. What a weeny little prick this guy is.

[napi21]

2. For ONCE I like the wayTim is questioning them.

UH OH< ricky is yelling again!

[The Cleaner]

3. Timmy is BUSTING Santorum!!

He's firing question after question, all hard hitting, to expose Santorum's idiocy and hypocrisy.

Santorum is getting RIPPED from all sides.

He also reiterated his belief that Iraq did in fact have WMDs.

[W_HAMILTON]

4. I was wondering why there wasn't a post about this already

MTP comes on at 9am here, and I didn't see one post about this show. Maybe I missed it...

I was a little shocked when Santorum said that if Casey's father was still alive today, he would be ashamed of him. That's classy. :sarcasm:

I guess it's out of bounds to speak positively about someone's lesbian daughter, but perfectly fine to say that someone's dead father would be ashamed of him if he were still alive today. Republicans sure are an interesting bunch...

[napi21]

8. I was surprised too! I was almost afraid to start one, thinking it

would be a dupe!

immy isstill doing a very good job tody!

[Horse with no Name]

29. And if Casey turned the tables

and said if his infant son was still alive, he would be disappointed in his Father.
All Hell would break loose.
I wish the party would come out in indignation about this terrible statement that Santorum just made.
I noticed how QUICKLY Russert glossed that one over.
Make no mistake, Russert is still carrying the Koolaid.

[DesertRat]

44. self-delete

[DesertRat]

46. There's another discussion in the Politics forum

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2808823&mesg_id=2808823

[Olney Blue]

68. Thanks for the link, DesertRat.

[TheDebbieDee]

5. What I'm seeing is Santorum dominate....

this conversation. He goes on a quiet rant and gets more speaking time by saying, "Please let me finish." when the other guy (I'm guessing it's Casey) tries to counter a point.

The other guy is so polite and soft-spoken, he appears to be too nice to be a politician.

[bleedingheart]

82. "too nice" sums up Casey

and that is what a lot of people here in PA are afraid of...

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

6. thanks - it's about to start here in DC

sounds like fun

[princehal]

7. I have no TV

Would be happy to get any details...

[napi21]

10. The highlight I saw was when Tim quoted Sntorum's statements

about Kosovowhen BC was Prez. He demanded a time line and an exit strategy then. He asked Rickyif he doesn't think he should hold the Shrub administration to the same rules?

Of course Ricky said NO!

[bumblebee1]

83. Damn, Ricky.

When did you have time to take gymnastics classes? Not requiring the Bush regime to have a timeline for exiting Iraq sure looks like flip flopping to me!!!!

[The Cleaner]

9. Santorum: Bush a "Terrific" President

Also Timmy busted him with his voting record which was like 90-100% pro-Bush.

[Sydnie]

11. Just tuned in

Ricky is melting down. "I agree with him but ...." Either you agree with him or you don't Ricky. Can't have it both ways.

[spanone]

12. I wish Casey would smack the shit out of that little smirky bastard.

[The Cleaner]

13. Santorum nailed his coffin shut this time I think.

Timmy REALLY grilled him on Santorum's stupid WMD claim. Santorum said it's "fact" that they found WMDs in Iraq, but they were OLD WMDs from the Iraq/Iran war. Santorum stammered and stuttered quite a bit.

[napi21]

15. The second nail was when ricky started arguing FOR privatising

SS. The public has shot this down over and over again when Shrub was pushing it, and the voters in Pa. will crush him for that position!

[The Cleaner]

14. Wow! Casey to Santorum: "You've got a lot of explaining to do"

referring to Santorum's voting for raising the debt.

[bridgit]

16. all republicans are like cornered ratz when they're going down...

:rofl:

[ktlyon]

80. that is why this is the time to be most careful

they do bite you know

[bridgit]

81. in the process of eating the young of other people in particular...

[Sugarcoated]

17. SICK HIM CASEY!!!

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[ThomWV]

18. I'm Really Enjoying This!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Santorum is a babbling idot, one lie leads to the next being exposed. He can't get anything right, nothing at all.

[Olney Blue]

19. Russert gave a list of Casey's evolution of thought on Iraq..

trying to nail him as a flip flopper-

Come on, Casey get some fire in your belly-

[Sugarcoated]

20. Seriously

Ricky's looking really unhinged and idiotic. :bounce:

[ArbustoBuster]

79. So, in other words he's looking the same as usual?

:D

[The Cleaner]

21. Timmy nails Santorum's hypocrisy on abortion

Santorum is anti-abortion but says he's okay with abortion in cases of rape and incest. Timmy (paraphrased): "But you believe all abortion is the taking of human life."

[seabeyond]

54. this is the most feeble argument with anti abortion. murder. MURDER

but can do it with rape incest or health of mom. then what? it isn't murder anymore. what it is a punishment from society to deem a woman promiscuous to say abortion only when not asking for it. all about judgment and not belief of murder

i tell those that say that to be consistent it means even the raped by the father 11 yr old MUST have the baby at the cost of her psychic, per their definition. anything less is dishonest, immoral and being a hypocrite

easiest of argument

[City Lights]

59. Holy Schmidt!

The tide must have turned if Timmah is calling hypocrisy on Little Ricky over abortion! :wow:

:party:

[Ilsa]

22. "There's no question that it is the taking of a life." What BS.

It may be a fertilized egg, which isn't the same as one implanted in the uterus. I am so tired of them using these "settled" terms when it is far from settled.

[Ilsa]

25. So, how much time are they going to give Ricky for his run-on

answers anyway? Casey answers succinctly, and RS runs on and on and then insists they let him finish. He is a NUT!

And his comment about Casey's father being ashamed of his position was way out of bounds.

[Sugarcoated]

23. Casey landed another blow

"What you're hearing is a speech about more speeches"

[keta11]

24. Listening to these 2 clowns, I dont see

what qualifies them to comment on the situation in Iraq.

[derby378]

33. When all else fails...

...just remember that Casey defeating Santorum increases the chances of returning the Senate to Democratic control, which Bush is deathly afraid of.

[Sugarcoated]

26. I love how he's looking right at Ricky

and confronting him.

[The Cleaner]

27. Santorum yelling!! Going NUTSO!

Yelling at Casey on a legal case regarding pay raises!

[spanone]

30. Ah, now the home school cheating by Santorum.

Go get him Timmy.

[ThomWV]

28. In Santorum's Defense: He Is Good About Not Interupting

Commendable.

Now, toss him out ....

[MH1]

53. Only for the first 10 minutes or so. nt

[Olney Blue]

31. Tim asking Santorum why Americans are turning against the war in Iraq.

Tim reminding Santorum what he said about Clinton in Kosovo....
Santorum complaining and saying there was no exit strategy in Kosovo- now Santorum says Kosovo was different from Iraq because Kosovo was no national security threat against the US.

[spanone]

34. He's a Senator, he's immune from telling the truth.

[Olney Blue]

37. Soon to be ex-senator, I hope.

[bumblebee1]

84. Ricky,

you're doing more skating around than the cast of Stars on Ice.

[globalvillage]

32. Twenty minutes in

and Icky's in full meltdown.
LOL.

[The Cleaner]

35. Timmy NAILS Santorum on Santorum's Leesburg, VA Home.

I didn't catch the issue though, but Santorum was very defensive about it...anyone else who can answer that?

I think the issue also regarded some district paying $38K/yr for his children's private education.

[napi21]

49. Santorum owns a house in Penn Hills, near Pittsburgh.

He rents it out most of the time. When he was elected to the Senate he bought a house in Va.so all his mail goes to VA. and whenhis real estatetaxbill was sent this year, it was returned to the PO as non deliverable because the mail carrier knew nobody by that name lived there.

While living in Va. he received money from Penn Hills to home school his kids...somewhere around $40,000. The city sued him for the $$ because he wasn't a resident. Idon't understand why the Dept of Edu in Pa. is paying this money back to Penn Hills,but that's what I recently heard.

[WinkyDink]

36. DANG! I forgot! I'll have to catch this later.

Ha! Just saw Bob mention CHENEY's not want Iran sanctions when he was at Halliburton!

[napi21]

38. After seeing that debate, Icanunderstandwhy Shrub & Ricky

get along so well! BOTH hate anybody who doesn't agree with them!!!!

I sure hope a lot of Pensylvanians were watching this morning, so they can see the arrogant loose cannon they have now, and replace him in Nov!

[Olney Blue]

39. Let's get this debate on the greatest page!

[Sugarcoated]

40. Ricky is looking as crazy as he is

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[globalvillage]

41. When you have two politicians who agree 98% of the time

(bush* and Santorum), one of them's not necessary.

Good one, Mr Casey.

[DesertRat]

42. If anyone missed it, MSNBC will replay it throughout the day

Casey came across as confident, informed and a clear voice of sanity in the current madness. Santorum was on the defensive the whole time.

[Olney Blue]

43. Tim is pressing Casey on how to get the deficit under control.

Asking him which programs would he cut?

Casey going after the tax cuts for the wealthy.

[WinkyDink]

45. And what would Ricky do?

[Olney Blue]

50. I dunno, but he had some kind of gibberish about how doing

something about the estate tax would cost more money. :wtf:

[LSK]

78. Casey said Ricky had years of votes and did nothing

The deficits are Rickys doing.

[dogday]

73. Why didn't he do they same to Sanitorium????? nt

[Olney Blue]

47. Santorum is not impressive-bottom line.

[The Wielding Truth]

55. Every time I see Sanitarium It activates my gag reflex. Anyone else?

[Olney Blue]

64. I found this little guy....

:puke:

Guess you aren't alone :)

[Sugarcoated]

48. You can smell his desperation

He really is coming off as desperate. Not good in politics.

[WinkyDink]

51. Can't Casey remind the U.S. that CLINTON gave us a SURPLUS?!

And this S.S. scare is JUST THAT. And Timmeh is pro-Republican so much it isn't funny. He's attacking Casey about EVERYTHING.

[Sugarcoated]

52. "I had a much better answer than yoiurs" he says to Icky

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[globalvillage]

56. It's a little early in the day, but...

Here's to you, Mr Casey!



:toast: :toast: :toast:

[Subdivisions]

57. What a big whiny, fit-throwing child Santorum is...

while Casey was calm and collected and reasonable, Little Ricky was blowing his top like a brat child who had his toy taken away. WAH! WAH! WAH!

[spanone]

58. Better than his toy, his JOB. Get him the fuck out of Congress.

Please Pennsylvanians, get this shit out of our halls of Congress.

[snappyturtle]

72. YES-YES! nt

[Sugarcoated]

60. Casey on Ricky's crap "Tim, what you got here

is Washington hot air"

[Olney Blue]

61. OK, it's a knock-down, drag-out now. Santorum is accusing

Casey of not stopping a pay raise for state officials. I don't know about this
issue... need to know more about this. Anyone know about this?

[Sugarcoated]

66. State Reps

voted themselves big fat pay raises and Casey is Treasurer, so somehow him signing the checks is an issue? Isn't that the treasurer's job?

[tabasco]

62. Watching the 11am replay here on east coast.

Thanks for the heads up. This is good. Casey is doing well. Smacking down little Ricky's lies.

[Sugarcoated]

63. Showing Santorum's

old commercial critisizing a former opponent for not living in PA and having a big home in VA. Fucking hypocrite!

[MADem]

65. That homeschooling/jazzy house in VA thing hit a NERVE!!! NT

[Sugarcoated]

67. That lowered expectations thing served Casey well

this morning. He did VERY well, made Ricky look like a baffoon.

Have a good Sunday everybody!:hi:

[LSK]

69. we dont need 2 Senators to rubber stamp the president,

we could get a machine to do that.

:rofl:

[LSK]

70. MTP repeats on MSNBC this evening twice

[dogday]

71. I cannot stand looking at this

little weasle... He makes me want to :puke:

[Olney Blue]

74. After this, I would be shocked if Pennsylvania sends Santorum back

to the Hill.

[globalvillage]

75. WTF?

What kind of idiots think Icky actually won that debate?

Please vote in this poll!

http://www.politicspa.com/BallotBox.htm

[Olney Blue]

77. OMG, who are these people?

[dogday]

76. Casey said there is only one person who

has been fiscally responsible at this table and it isn't you Rick....