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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 10:43 PM
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Sistani Led His Followers to Elect Iraq's New Regime. Today He Walked Away
September 3, 2006

The new Iraqi regime's most important link to it's Shiite population is walking away from the political role he assumed in the wake of our invasion and occupation and presumably will take his thousands of Iraqi followers with him.

The Independent is reporting that Sistani has "abandoned attempts to restrain his followers" and no longer believes he can stand in the way of the growing civil war. ""I will not be a political leader any more," he reportedly told aides. "I am only happy to receive questions about religious matters."

Sistani's departure from Iraq's political scene and his return to his religious role signals an end to the Maliki regime's attempt to consolidate power and sell his reconciliation plan to the myriad of warring factions who are engaged in armed and deadly struggles against his regime, and against each other as well. It was Sistani who brought the thousands of his followers to the polls, forcing Bush to make good on his promise of early elections.

It was Sistani who forged an alliance with former militant, Shiite cleric, Moqtada al-Sadr allowing the elections to proceed. It's no exaggeration that, without Sistani's participation there may never have been elections in Iraq, or a Maliki government.

It's also clear that, without Sistani's involvement in iraq's political future, Sadr's influence will be elevated. It remains to be seen, though, if Sadr, who is arguably more prone to lead his followers to armed and active resistance, and, whose followers are already engaging government troops in street battles, will follow Sistani and lead his congregation away from the political sweet spot he's carved out for himself in the Iraqi legislature.

One thing that's clear, however, is that Iraq is indeed poised for a complete breakdown along sectarian lines, whatever you want to call it, and a devolution into a full-scale battle for each faction's political and material survival.

The Pentagon's mandatory, quarterly report to Congress, entitled, “Measuring Security and Stability in Iraq,” concludes that, “Death squads and terrorists are locked in mutually reinforcing cycles of sectarian strife, with Sunni and Shia extremists each portraying themselves as the defenders of their respective sectarian groups.”

The Pentagon report also states that the sectarian violence is escalating, "gradually expanding north to Kirkuk and Diyala Province." The report documented over 800 attacks a week.

""During the period from the establishment of the new Iraqi government on May 20 until Aug. 11," the report reads, "the average number of weekly attacks jumped to almost 800. That was a substantial increase from earlier this year and almost double the number of the first part of 2004."

Yet, Bush today, in his radio address, lied and told the American people that "(they) report that only a small number of Iraqis are engaged in sectarian violence, while the overwhelming majority want peace and a normal life in a unified country."

This has got to be one of the biggest lies Bush has told since the original lies he used to take our nation to war against Iraq. He's trying to cover up what is clearly a civil war in Iraq, with our forces on one side of a multi-front conflict which is escalating around them. Bush downplays all of this to maintain his party's political campaign with our soldiers at the point of his politics. It's practically treasonous; at the least, criminally negligent for him to ignore the conclusions of his own Pentagon's report and continue to tell the American people that everything is going swimmingly in Iraq.

On one hand he warns that leaving Iraq will cause it to become a 'terrorist's haven', and on the other hand he wants us to believe the U.S. supported Iraqi regime is somewhere close to assuming control over the violence there.

But, Iraq is a casualty of Bush's false ideology of dominance, U.S. hegemony in the region and projection of American military power. The 'democracy' he says he's brought to Iraq first revealed a markedly different impetus from the residents there than Bush intended. The Shiite dominated regime that emerged had no intention at all (save Bush's puppets at the top) in fostering a U.S. satellite in Iraq. Rather than provide a U.S. compliant buffer against Bush's nemesis, Iran, the legislature has generated more opposition to their U.S. benefactors than to their Shiite Iranian neighbors.

Now, Sistani's departure from Iraq's political arena threatens to pull more of his resident followers away from the crumbling junta and into the ocean of recriminations and militia-driven violent resistance to the U.S. occupation.

Things couldn't be any worse in Iraq.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 10:53 PM
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1. Yeah, sadly they could be a lot worse
and probably will be for everyone involved for a long time before it gets better.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 11:03 PM
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2. This is what I was getting at in your other thread about this...I didn't
ever expect the outcome to be anything other than this scenario.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 08:14 AM
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8. I finalized (and edited) this into an article at opednews.com
Edited on Sun Sep-03-06 08:18 AM by bigtree
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 11:14 PM
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3. Get ready for a new Saddam to emerge.
This is really, really bad news, not just for the Iraqis, but our troops are in even more danger now.

This is beyond the chaos that even the neocons planned. Looks like reality has a mind of its own.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 12:42 AM
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7. It certainly does.
And this is a very important (and tragic) development.
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CollegeDUer Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 11:15 PM
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4. Even he gave up?
This tragicomedy will never end.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 09:57 AM
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9. the 'moderate' Shiite
abandons the Shia-dominated government
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 12:09 AM
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5. Sistani Cut and Run, did he? Not a sign of good things to come in Iraq
so it sounds.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 12:32 AM
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6. It seems tha al Sistani has lost faith in Iraq
becoming a "democracy". I never had any faith that it would. The moment the Busholini Regime started their "Shock and Awe", I felt that Iraq would be in chaos for years and then most likely split into three seperate countries.

The Busholini Regime should be charged with War Crimes. Every goddamn one of them!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 11:28 AM
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10. Newspeak: Why is Sistani Silent?
Silent Sistani
Is the country's most potent voice losing its influence?

By Scott Johnson
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14535061/site/newsweek/

Sept. 4, 2006 issue - {snip}



The astute Sistani may be keeping quiet precisely because he realizes the limits of his power—and wants to husband what's left of it. "What would be the decisions that Sistani can make in these circumstances?" says Ihsan Abdul Ridha, 40, a computer technician in Baghdad. "What is the power he has while sitting inside his four walls?" Sistani's constituency, too, has changed, says the ICG's Hilterman. "Sistani's people are still there, but it's mostly elite Shiite support," he says. "The Street is increasingly prone to supporting militias and radical preachers who say what they like to hear—take revenge for the killings."

Even the ayatollah's closest advisers know that his most powerful weapons—the fatwas, or binding religious edicts, that he can issue—no longer carry the same weight among this desperate population. They see no point in undermining his authority any further. "Some people ignore those instructions," says Hamid al-Khalaf, a chief Sistani spokesman. "What can we or the clergy do? This ignorance is one reason behind being silent." Sheik Maher Hussein al-Hamra, a Sistani aide in Baghdad, agrees: "It is wise now to keep silent. What can Sistani say?"

The problem is that militia leaders are using Sistani's weakened position to carve out bigger roles for themselves. One such radical is Mahmoud Hassani, a Shiite preacher in Karbala whose forces recently engaged in skirmishes with U.S. forces. Hassani has publicly criticized Sistani, and challenged his religious authority on several occasions. Like the fighters in Sadr's Mahdi Army, Hassani's followers are armed and pushing for further confrontation. Last week, Shiite militiamen staged a demonstration in the Shiite stronghold of Khadimiya, where they heaped abuse upon Sistani's chief representative in Baghdad, the revered cleric Hussein al-Sadr. Marching through the streets, hundreds of young men chanted "Damn the one who embraced Bremer," a reference to an incident in 2003 when the Sistani representative embraced former head of the Coalition Provisional Authority Paul Bremer during a meeting recorded by TV cameras.

Now, having pushed hard for a strong political class, Sistani has no choice but to accept what it delivers. "He is concerned about the security threat. But if he is viewed as the éminence grise that defines political outcomes, that would be a step back ," says a high-ranking U.S. military-intelligence officer in Baghdad, who asked to remain anonymous because he is not authorized to speak publicly to the press on sensitive issues. Al-Dabbagh recently asked Sistani what he thought of federalism, and was told that he didn't think anything—it was an issue for Iraqis and their elected representatives to figure out. "He's still playing a quiet role," says Dabbagh. But by limiting his public comments, "politicians will be freer to make decisions and be held accountable." The problem is that Sistani, with his moderate ideas on religion and democracy, may be one of the few forward-thinking leaders left in Iraq. The ability of his words to sway, or even save, a nation may be fading at just the wrong time.

URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14535061/site/newsweek/
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 11:33 AM
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11. Smart: Shit About To Hit The Fan And He Steps Out Of The Way
It is a lot easier to come back and clean up shit after its been flying than to stand in the way and try to catch it all.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 12:08 PM
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12. there will be nothing of the present government for him to return to
the population is leaning toward supporting more reactive elements which oppose the U.S. occupation and the compromised Maliki regime.

But, I agree that he's doing the wise thing by not standing with the compromised junta, in the middle of anarchy, and against other resisting Iraqis. He has no choice.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 02:53 PM
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13. .
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 10:02 PM
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14. .
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 10:15 PM
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15. Choppers off the Green Zone roof, baby.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 08:49 AM
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19. after the (next) coup . . .
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PresidentWar Donating Member (499 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 10:21 PM
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16. Really, is this a surprise to anyone?
Did anybody NOT know the day would come when Occupier chaffed against the "elected" leader? That the Iraqis would see that the Occupier never had any intention of "letting go" or even truly handing obvder sovereignty that was stolen under a bayonet?

What, are you saying that Sistani had no idea that, if asked to leave or at least for a time table to leave, the Occupier would loftily reply "don't you worry about it"?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 06:59 AM
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18. the article is about Sistani, 'moderate' cleric, who brought his followers
to the polls, enabling the new regime, walking away from the process. As the article implies, it's another sign of the growing civil war, and the futility of the Maliki regime's attempt at reconcilliation.

The reference to Bush is about the Pentagon report released this week that spells out the chaos and sectarian strife, which they say is expanding, and Bush's happy talk when he referenced it.

With the Maliki regime losing influence with the Iraq people and the resistance groups and leaders gaining influence, Sistani has apparently decided that he's not going to tie himself any further to the crumbling Iraqi regime.

I really don't see where you got the rest that you wrote. That's not intended to be reflected in the article.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 10:26 PM
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17. Bush isn't leading but two things right now: Jack and Shit.
And Jack just left town.

I just had to modify that Evil Dead quotation.
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