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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 01:23 PM
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Obrador, now get this, want to stop ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!!!!!!!
Edited on Sat Sep-02-06 01:23 PM by originalpckelly
Look:
Immigration
Mexico has been taking a passive role on immigration. Lopez Obrador is going to change that. Thousands of hard working, determined and driven Mexicans leave the country instead of contributing to Mexican development and the economy. Lopez Obrador wants these Mexicans to stay in their home country. Most of these Mexicans come from southern Mexico, a region that needs economic and social development.
Lopez Obrador will invest in and develop the underserved areas of southern Mexico, reducing poverty and therefore immigration. Lopez Obrador understands the security challenges of North America. Mexico will do more to secure its borders, to increase trade and to reduce poverty and migration. Lopez Obrador invites the United States to help in the development of southern Mexico through international direct investment, bi-lateral compensation funds and private sector investment in infrastructure projects.

I was kind of leery of this Orbador fella, but after reading this I think he might be the ticket to get this illegal immigration stopped.

http://www.lopezobrador2006.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=7&id=25&Itemid=46
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 01:25 PM
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1. Obrador, the people's choice, should be president
Edited on Sat Sep-02-06 01:29 PM by MissWaverly
I think that we do need to reform immigration but by making it better for the people of Mexico,
then they will wish to stay home. I don't think walls, prisons, dogs and troops on our border
is what America is all about.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 01:27 PM
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2. Not a Ruler, but a Democratically Elected President (nt)
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 01:28 PM
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3. yes, and that he is
although a bushbot is trying to cheat him out of it.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 01:32 PM
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4. the illegal immigration problem has ALWAYS been at least partly...
Edited on Sat Sep-02-06 01:33 PM by mike_c
...associated with U.S. foreign policy and economic exploitation throughout the hemisphere. For all the noise we make about reforming corrupt economic policies throughout the Americas, the U.S. gov't has actively undermined just about every reformist movement that has emerged during the last 100 years. The social corruption that creates pressures sending illegal immigrants north also sustains the profits of U.S. and multinational corporations, largely through maintaining control of internal politics-- concentrating the wealth, land, and power into the hands of a ruling oligarchy works well as long as the oligarchy is friendly to the U.S.-- and it's corporations-- and makes deposing the unfriendly easier when necessary. The point is that the U.S. has always opposed leftist reform movements.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 01:39 PM
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5. This is exactly the solution the ruling class is terrified of.
If the proles ever realize that they hold all the real power, their days are numbered and they know it.

As my SO pointed out, have you noticed how the ruling class of all these countries work together to keep us down, while we are kept separated from each other by these same perpetrators?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 01:46 PM
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7. The ruling classes in these countries are well subsidized by ours.
This is why they have a stranglehold on the economies of these nations. It's in our interests to keep them loyal to the us. It's a very corrupt system on both sides.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 02:00 PM
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8. They're all the same people, all over the world.
and they're all working for the same goal.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 01:44 PM
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6. Of course that's the holy grail.
I have said this for decades. If Mexicans and other Latin Americans had decent jobs that paid a living wage they would not leave Mexico or the country of their origin. I was usually snorted at and ignored.

I hope Obrador does get this accomplished. It won't end the problem on our side though, because workers are going to have to be imported to work in our agriculture regardless. There aren't that many Americans willing to work in the fields. What will happen is that workers will be imported from other poor countries like maybe in Africa and the same assholes will be complaining about them. Nothing is going to change here until we address our xenophobia first.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 03:49 PM
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9. and NAFTA only made it worse by placing "magnets"
so close to the border.. we lured poor people from all over central america, set them up in shanty-towns just outside the shiny new factories, and still paid them too little to survive well...they started to organize & complain....and then we sent THEIR new jobs to China...

Now the northern areas of Mexico have lots of people who got "left behind" and their outsourced jobs evaporated.. Of course they will try to go a litlle further north into the US..
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Opusnone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 03:56 PM
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10. The deafening silence of the right in the US boggles the mind
Edited on Sat Sep-02-06 03:58 PM by Opusnone
on the issue of Mexican elections. You'd think to stem the tide of illegal immigration, the US would welcome a leftist president on our southern border who could lift the poor out of poverty, provide jobs, and make it possible to earn a living in Mexico.

Instead we hear nothing but Buchanan harping about brown-skinned people and racist cowards like
http://www.mothersagainstillegalaliens.org spouting generalizations, lies and invective to anyone who will listen.

I would support any candidate who will work to keep Mexicans in Mexico.
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