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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 03:58 AM
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The Miami Foiled Terror Plot Entrapment HOAX that failed.
Edited on Sat Sep-02-06 04:10 AM by Philosoraptor
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14631244/

-----What Batiste did not know was that the bin Laden representative was really an FBI informant. The warehouse in which they were meeting had been rented and wired for sound and video by bureau agents, who were monitoring his every word.

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Plot or pipe dream?
But court records released since then suggest that what Gonzales described as a "deadly plot" was virtually the pipe dream of a few disgruntled men with almost no ability to pull it off on their own. The suspects have raised questions in court about the FBI informants' role in keeping the plan alive.


The plot featured self-proclaimed militant religious leaders who referred to themselves as kings, talked of establishing their own nation inside the United States, called their headquarters an embassy and discussed plans to train their recruits to use bows and arrows. One of their quixotic notions was to blow up Chicago's Sears Tower.

Batiste's father, a Christian preacher and former contractor who lives in Louisiana, told the news media after the indictment that his son was "not in his right mind" and needed psychiatric treatment.

-------why, our own government wouldn't HOAX us would they? have they done this before? will they lie or hoax us about something so grave again? surely not.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 04:08 AM
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1. OMG
That's one story that's fallen off the radar, isn't it?

Frightening.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 04:10 AM
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2. If people knew the true depth of the deception...
They just MIGHT get pissed
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 04:36 AM
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3. Zip over to Pakistan and Britain
Guess you'll find a similar pattern there; provocation by agents and maybe even agents running the 'plot' for the suspects, helping out at every corner.

Did you see Jon Stewart's hillarious video from this episode?

http://www.brasscheck.com/videos/911/9114.html

Note the FBI guy. He's totally scary, like a government zombie.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 05:31 AM
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4. Same reason the UK government would hoax us over here
Because it ramps up the fear and hysteria. Because you can justify all sorts of illegal acts by saying it is for "our county's defense"
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 06:11 AM
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5. "bows and arrows"
almost comical unless you get hit by an arrow. A medievil 6' english longbow could fire a 3 foot arrow 300 yards or so with an archer expected to fire off 10 a minute. They just chose between distance and accuracy. The arrows also had armour piercing tips and I'm guessing they'd still be effective now. Trouble is you'd need a noticeable number of archers - I think Henry V had about 5000 at Agincourt: hence the sky turning black with half a million fired off in 10 minutes or so.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 06:16 AM
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6. box cutters & bow & arrows versus the mightiest defense system ever
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 06:34 AM
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7. Most people never heard that these guys were harmless idiots.
All they heard from the MSM was "TERRORIST CEL IN MIAMI". They never heard retractions. They never heard that these guys were hopeless morons with NO bombs, NO weapons, NO plan......nothing. They had NOTHING. So, the American public will continue to think that the Bushies uncovered this horrible terrorist cel that was on the verge of destroying America at any moment. :eyes:

Terra', terra', terra'. It's all the GOP has and the "liberal media" is more than happy to carry their water for them.
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