PNAC and the Carlyle Group: MUST see TV >>>>>>>>

[helderheid]

http://www.vpro.nl/programma/tegenlicht/afleveringen/11838857/


It's introduced in Dutch but it is mostly in English and a MUST SEE for EVERY DUer and American.

Right hand side under "video"

These would be the people to contact for Mark Crispin Miller's book.

Write them here:
[e-mail]


Edited to ad, please keep kicked. The program is 50 minutes and I'm afraid this may fall off the page.

[helderheid]

1. The English title is: The Iron Triangle - The Network of the Carlyle Group

[ooglymoogly]

75. the puzzle of the evil that has a vice like grip on this country

is put together in this doc. kick and nom.

[helderheid]

87. translation of the openening scene

"Exposed: The Carlyle Group
Shocking documentary uncovers the subversion of Americas democracy.

The Group's aerospace and defense investments are a source of criticism since the Group is alleged to have connections to the Middle East, and detractors state that defense industries cannot remain profitable unless wars and threats of war continue to occur.


Translation of the Dutch introduction of this program:

The war in Iraq is over.
The rubble is still smoking while the first dozers are already entering the country.
After the coalition forces destroyed Baghdad it is now primarily American companies who are to rebuild Iraq.
An interesting point is that these companies usually have people on the payroll who have been politicians. Is this a conflict of interests or a new (global) way of doing business?
One of the corporations that work this way is the Carlyle Group. On their payroll are people like : George Bush (Sr.), James Baker III and old premier John Major.
The Carlyle Group is a private investment bank which doesn't come to the publics attention very often but it is one of the biggest US investors of the defense industry, telecom, property and financial services.
What is the Carlyle Group? Who are the people behind the name? And how much power does Carlyle have?"

[helderheid]

2. recognize any of these names?

George Bush Sr., James Baker III, voormalig IBM-topman Louis Gerstner, oud-premier John Major, voormalig Italiaans minister van Buitenlandse zaken Roberto Rugiero, oud-premier van de Fillipijnen Fidel Ramos, voormalig premier van Thailand Anand Panyarachun en oud-Bundesbank bestuurder Karl Otto Pohl. Onder hun beleggers bevinden zich de rijken der aarden zoals George Soros, leden van het Saudische koningshuis en de familie Bin Laden

Off to exercise...

[MelissaB]

3. Is it the first or second video?

[Nabia2004]

4. first video

[FreedomAngel82]

5. There's some good docs about this

at http://www.informationclearinghouse.info They have a doc called "Exposed: the Carlyle Group." It's a great doc about what the group is about and how they effect us.

[helderheid]

20. This is the video that informationclearinghouse uses - the quality here is

better as it is the video from the show that produced it.

[mogster]

66. Good one!

Here's some details:
Meet the Carlyle Group
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2321.htm

[helderheid]

19. the 1st video is for broadband - the 2nd is for dial up.

[hiley]

6. thanks

recommend please

[helderheid]

46. thank you! We ALL NEED TO SEE THIS!

[joeunderdog]

70. Halliburton vs. Carlyle DU style...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=210004&mesg_id=210405&page=

[helderheid]

71. that is FACINATING!

[spindrifter]

7. Kick!

[H2O Man]

8. Thanks for this! n/t

[helderheid]

47. I just sent this to everyone I know. Here's the email I sent out:

Subject: The Iron Triangle - The Network of the Carlyle Group - A must see documentary.



It's introduced in Dutch but it is mostly in English and a MUST SEE for
EVERY American.



This was aired on the Dutch television version of our PBS.



Direct link to broadband:



http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/vpro/tegenlicht/bb.20030516.rm



Direct link to dial-up:



http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/tv/vpro/tegenlicht/sb.20030516.rm



You must have real player to view.

EDITED TO ADD: I even sent this to my Utah Moms group.

[file83]

9. Hey, that is a GREAT documentary....very informative! Thanks.

[Clara T]

10. Thanks for this. Question

What do you need to view this? Windows? Quick time?

And where to go to download such system?

[nicknameless]

64. Oops. You got your answer further down the thread.

:)

[JohnyCanuck]

11. Nice to see that they've included a clip of Cynthia McKinney

speaking her mind in her usual style. I :loveya: Cynthia.

[file83]

26. Ditto that!

[im10ashus]

12. Let's make it 5!

K&R!

[Greyhound]

13. K&R, Should be on the front page.

:kick:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

14. This is an Excellent Video! I saw this a while ago, and have passed it

forward many times. There is a permanent link to it at http://InformaionClearingHouse.info (along with other must see videos)!

Thank you for posting!

[im10ashus]

15. I am half-way through the video.

And :wow:!

[Clara T]

16. What do I need to download it?

I've got windows and that didn't work

[im10ashus]

17. Mine is playing in Real Player. n/t

[Clara T]

18. Where to go to download Real Player? n/t

[helderheid]

22. here

http://www.real.com/

They have a free version - right hand side of the page

[JohnyCanuck]

24. Here's the link.

You just need the free basic player (link on the right side) but if you want to pay $20 you can get the premium edition with more bells and whistles.

http://www.real.com/realplayer.html?pageid=broadBandHomePage&pageregion=A1&src=realhome_bb_0_3_1_0_0_1_0&pcode=rn&opage=realhome_bb

[Clara T]

27. Thanks

:hi:
:toast:

[FreedomAngel82]

23. I believe real player

[deek]

69. Downloaded only at 143 B?

Can't save it? Only watch it online?

[im10ashus]

21. Just AMAZING!!!

This needs to stay kicked!

[sasha031]

25. thanks, this is an important video

well done...:kick:

[helderheid]

28. website

http://www.thecarlylegroup.com/eng/

[jschurchin]

29. Thanks

A really informative documentary. I agree that every DUer, hell every American should watch this. Wonder how we get it on NBC?

[helderheid]

30. Welcome to DU jschurchin!

:hi:

[newyawker99]

39. Hi jschurchin!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[yowzayowzayowza]

31. Thx!! K&R.

This really drove the situation home fer Mrs Yowza.

[helderheid]

32. I'm listening to this again - God bless Helen Thomas for asking Ari about

this! Now is there any question in anyone's mind after seeing this and how invested those in power are in staying in power that the votes are not being swapped in the central tabulators?

[Swamp Rat]

33. KICK KICK KICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KICK!!!

[helderheid]

85. thanks!

[Swamp Rat]

86. I posted this to another website

People MUST see this!

[helderheid]

34. I'd forgotten about where everyone in the Carlyle group was during 9/11

[rman]

36. They watched together how the towers fell. That's including a bin Laden

family member.

[helderheid]

45. I don't believe in coincidence.

[rman]

62. me neither - not big coincidences happening all the time

nor do i believe in excessively convenient incompetence

[helderheid]

35. Tegenlicht is obviously happy to do REAL reporting - write them to cover

stolen 2004 election and get them Mark Crispin Miller's book:


Write them here:
[e-mail]

[helderheid]

38. please let me know if you think this is a good idea

[nicknameless]

65. I think it's a very good idea. (n/t)

[helderheid]

79. Maybe we need to set up some kind of campaign to write them about what is

happening here. I was thinking I could order Mark Crispin Miller's book and have it delivered to them with a note. What do you think?

[Sydnie]

37. Bookmarking for later

Can't listen now but plan to.

[helderheid]

40. .

[progressoid]

41. thanks, will watch later tonight.

[leftchick]

42. fascinating

poopy bush is a war criminal. :grr:

[Clara T]

43. just business

in the boardroom with overheads and power point presentations.

No blood or children's screams.

Disgusting

[helderheid]

44. they wouldn't steal an election to stay in business would they?

:sarcasm:

It is disgusting. I really think we need to contact the producers of this about Mark Crispin Miller's book and the stolen election.

[Roxy66]

48. I watched this a long time ago...when Randi Rhodes had it posted

on her web-site.....but then she got genuinely spooked by something, took it off her web-site, and asked people not to go there and watch it anymore....or for that matter, even mention it on-line. It was a very scary episode.

[helderheid]

49. I have been there - totally spooked - but anyone here is being watched.

We are being watched! Let's inform ourselves and make sure everyone we know is informed as well. I hope it's not the wrong thing to do. I really love my country and my family and my freedom.

My husband is Dutch. I saw this documentary. I am a PROUD American. It is my duty to provide this video to all Americans. Even my Utah Moms list.

[Roxy66]

50. Trust me....I kept going back to the video to show my friends and family

That was the beginning of my awakening.....and my activism. THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!!!

[Roxy66]

52. It was at that time when I knew I was being watched.....clicking on phone

weird government tracking on my computer...etc

[helderheid]

53. I hear ya. I knew I was being watched as soon as I volunteered for

Kucinich. This whole illegal wiretapping was absolutely no surprise to me

[Roxy66]

56. OMG!!....me either. I told my mom at the time....and she slowly realized

it was true. Now, understand, my mom is very sceptical when it comes to conspiracies. I'm 39, and she's 65.....and has realized that things are not as she was brought up to believe....the Govt is extremely corrupt

[mirandapriestly]

60. You know there will be a space for junior in the Carlyle Group

unless we can get him impeached. This documentary made me understand the reason for the Iraq war - a business opportunity.

[alfredo]

51. Thanks for posting that

[Kablooie]

54. Damn! I've got to invest in that Carlyle Group! Sure fire profits!!

[helderheid]

55. yay we're on fire! Still time to nominate and I have no shame to ask for

them!

[Hoping4Change]

57. This is an unbelieveably great documentary. AN ABSOLUTE MUST READ.

I am completely stunned. I had never heard about what had happened with Cynthia McKinney. I'm just stunned.

There should be a link to it permanently of the front page because as it was mentionned nobody in the press or even the govt wants to touch this group.



:kick:

[helderheid]

58. Thank you and I AGREE!!!

Skinner? Elad?

[Hoping4Change]

77. Another kick for the Sunday evening crowd.

:kick:

[Hoping4Change]

59. English information about the producer of the programme copied

from the website.

"VPRO is a Dutch national public broadcast organization.. Its television department is a leading, noncommercial, national broadcaster. As a public broadcaster with a long tradition of independence, we try to surprise the audience with high quality programs, observing and analyzing society without prejudice...

Tegenlicht ('Backlight') is VPRO's international 50 minute documentary program. The program focuses on our globalized world in which economies, societies and cultures are seeking a new mutual balance. In its history the program has always tried to grasp the quintessence of prominent developments. By carefully selecting our subjects we hope to raise more understanding for what is happening in the world...

Episodes of Backlight are aired on a weekly basis on Dutch public channel Net3 and many of them are also aired in other countries like Japan, Germany and the USA.


Series editors:
Doke Romeijn
Frank Wiering


Backlight episodes can be purchased for broadcasting via NPBsales. A link can be found on the right side of this page.


Contact information:
VPRO TV / Tegenlicht
PO Box 11
1200 JC Hilversum
telephone: [phone]
fax: [phone]
e-mail: [e-mail]


http://www.vpro.nl/programma/tegenlicht/service_info/19361409/




:kick:

[helderheid]

72. They are the ones to contact on all news not being reported by our MSM

including the last election polls not matching the vote count, and this article:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x181974

and Mark Crispin Miller's book.

[helderheid]

89. Just did a search on Amazon for Mark Crispin Miller's book and came up

with the following list of books, many pertaining to the stolen 2004 election. I would like to buy a couple of these to send the the above address and think perhaps if each of us did that, they might cover the story:



Fooled Again by Mark Crispin Miller (Hardcover - Oct 18, 2005)
Books: See all 32 items
Buy new: $24.95 $16.47 Used & new from $16.41 Usually ships in 24 hours
What Went Wrong In Ohio: The Conyers Report On The 2004 Presidential Election

What Went Wrong In Ohio: The Conyers Report On The 2004 Presidential Election by Anita Miller and Gore Vidal (Paperback - May 2005)
Books: See all 32 items
Buy new: $10.95 $8.76 Used & new from $7.68 Usually ships in 24 hours
Was the 2004 Presidential Election Stolen? : Exit Polls, Election Fraud, and the Official Count

Was the 2004 Presidential Election Stolen? : Exit Polls, Election Fraud, and the Official Count by Steve Freeman and Joel Bleifuss (Paperback - May 15, 2005)
Books: See all 32 items
Buy new: $15.95 $10.85 Not yet released.
The State We're In

The State We're In by Mark Crispin Miller (Aug 1, 2005)
Books: See all 32 items
Buy new: $0.49 Available for download now
Did George W. Bush Steal America's 2004 Election?

Did George W. Bush Steal America's 2004 Election? by Bob Fitrakis, Steve Rosenfeld, and Harvey Wasserman (Paperback - May 2005)
Books: See all 32 items
Buy new: $40.00 Used & new from $33.25 Usually ships in 24 hours
How the Gop Stole America's 2004 Election & Is Rigging 2008

How the Gop Stole America's 2004 Election & Is Rigging 2008 by Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman (Paperback - Sep 30, 2005)
Books: See all 32 items
Buy new: $12.00 Used & new from $10.88 Usually ships in 24 hours
Cruel and Unusual: Bush/Cheney's New World Order


Steal This Vote: Dirty Elections and the Rotten History of Democracy in America by Andrew Gumbel (Paperback - Jul 10, 2005)
Books: See all 32 items
Buy new: $15.95 $10.85 Used & new from $8.35 Usually ships in 24 hours

[helderheid]

90. I'd like to start a seperate thread with the info above - any ideas for a

catchy title?

[helderheid]

91. done and apparently not a catchy enough title

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x215875

[ClayZ]

61. Kick ..... MUST SEE!

:kick:

[Karenina]

63. Kick!!!

:kick::kick::kick:

[leftchick]

67. this is just incredible.

:wow:

[leftchick]

68. I also have a huge problem with a program called "Crusader"

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/crusader-history3.htm

On July 26, 2002, Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics Edward C. "Pete" Aldridge, Jr., signed a memorandum directing the U.S. Army to take prudent and deliberate actions to bring about an orderly termination of the Crusader program. In the memo, the Army was directed to ensure that current technology development continues either as part of an indirect fire technology demonstration or as part of other transformational programs. On the same day, Secretary Aldridge provided Congress with the Army's Indirect Fires Report and a reprogramming request to transfer $32 million from Crusader to new variants of the Future Combat Systems (FCS). Congress has approved the reprogramming request.

Crusader is a full spectrum, standoff precision attack system that transforms land power on the 21st century network-centric battlefield. The self-propelled 155-mm howitzer (SPH) is supported by tracked and wheeled resupply vehicles. Two Crusader vehicles will be strategically deployable by C-17 aircraft to participate in the full spectrum of Army missions. Crusader carries key technologies critical to the next family of ground combat vehicles that will meet the Army transition initiatives. Crusader gives the field artillery corps lightweight robotics, new composites, drive by wire capability, a crew cockpit, embedded training, and diagnostic and prognostic software for the first time in one system.

[Spazito]

73. Wow, definitely a MUST watch!

Thanks for posting this!

Recommended.

[mdmc]

74. kicked

gonna check out the link now.

[Spazito]

76. Kick for the Sunday afternoon crowd

:kick:

[helderheid]

78. kick for the evening crowd :)

[peacetalksforall]

80. Two questions - Clinton then watching 9-11

It was interesting to hear them say that Bush, Sr. just kind of evolved into Carlyle - not a formal member, Do you think that Clinton has evolved into Carlyle?

Watching - 9-11. They said something about the Midwest - was one member in the midwest and the others that were mentioned in Washington? If in the Midwest, was it Nebraska? Offutt AFB? With Buffett?

[MelissaB]

81. I still can't get it to load for me.

I've even downloaded the most current realplayer. :cry:

[helderheid]

83. I'll see if I can't find another version for you - or try to run it in

another player?

[helderheid]

84. OH try a different browser! Try Mozilla, Netscape, and IE - one may work!

[helderheid]

88. I can't find it in anything other than realplayer but you could try this

site:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3995.htm

and play it right from the page. The quality of the video is not quite as good but the audio is crisp

[bloom]

82. kick

:kick:

[helderheid]

92. kick