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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:22 PM
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Kurds to fly own flag in Kurdistan
Aljazeera.net
Friday 01 September 2006, 22:51 Makka Time, 19:51 GMT

In a move that could further inflame racial tension in Iraq, Massoud Barzani, the Kurdish province's president, has ordered the Iraqi national flag to replaced with the Kurdish flag in his northern autonomous region.

According to Azad Jundiyani, a member of Iraqi President Jalal Talabani's Patriotic Union of Kurdistan in Suleymaniyah, Barzani issued a formal message asking for the Iraqi flag to be lowered.

The message was also broadcast on Kurdish radio on Thursday. The Kurdish flag is already flown outside government buildings around Kurdistan.

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Sunni Arabs fear that Kurds are pushing for secession under the nation's new federal system, a step which, if imitated by the Shia majority in the oil-rich south, would leave Sunnis little national resources.

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http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/3963E80F-3755-4918-8AE3-017278F0E482.htm

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Partition or no? If the Iraq partitions, perhaps we are out faster.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:23 PM
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1. Turkey will invade N. Iraq and put a stop to this very soon
USA or no USA. Watch and see.

Don
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:25 PM
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:29 PM
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3. Hmm.
Is this Fort Sumter, or no more significan than the Confederate, Quebecois or Scottish flags? There'll be bloodshed if they want outright independence, there is guaranteed to be.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:38 PM
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5. "Turkey will invade N. Iraq and put a stop to this very soon."
I do not understand why Turkey would do that. It seems that it would be better for Turkey because then they could demand that all the Kurds in Turkey need to move to the new Kurdistan country. I have tried to do some research about this but no luck so far. Anyone have more info about this?
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:44 PM
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6. Eastern Turkey and Northern Iraq and parts of Iran
are generally viewed as "Kurdistan". The Turkish Military Regime fears the creation of a Kurdish State in N. Iraq will cause the Kurds of E. Turkey to declare their independence of Oppresive Genocidal Turkish Rule.

Which the Turks will resist with American made F-16s...
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:45 PM
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9. Is it worth pointing out that Turkey is a secular democracy? n/t
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:52 PM
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10. Secular Democracies mistreat peoples all the time...
But, the problem lies at the idea of the Nation-State and the fear other Nation-States express when oppressed peoples inside the boundaries of a particular country express a desire to be free.

The US would be mad because maybe the Native Americans over in the US might start thinking about reclaiming some of the old lands...
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:44 PM
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7. I didn't say that; did you reply to the wrong post?
And I don't think Turkey's Kurds would take kindly to forced mass exodus!
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:44 PM
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8. Because the Kurds claim much of S. Turkey as their own
We wouldn't be happy losing several northern states to Canada for instance.

Don
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 05:06 PM
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12. they already started with airstrikes
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:37 PM
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4. We'd DEFINITELY be out faster
Of course, the Sunnis may get stuck having to ally themselves with Syria...they've really no where else to go. They might try hooking up with Jordan, but I rather doubt Jordan would want the bother--and the Saudis are too fucking repressive to suit them. They've been living in a secular nation for far too long to put up with that shit.

Of course, the Turks have this attitude that since Turkomens live in the north of Iraq, that somehow Turkey has a claim to the oil wealth around Kirkuk, and maybe a little slice of the land, too.

They also have a Kurdish population that is already getting ideas, http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=c8426c61-19d2-4436-b891-e912d75bd438&k=71868 and has no love for the motherland, since they jailed for life (they were gonna kill the guy) their revered leader.

That could complicate matters, too. In the meanwhile, should the Turks decide to stick their beak in, expect terra-terra-terra attacks on Turkish resorts to go up-up-up. http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.asp?feed=FT&Date=20060829&ID=5976111

It's NOT an especially good time to vacation in Turkey, nowadays. I see it getting worse rather than better, frankly.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:57 PM
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11. Well, -that- will settle things right down...
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