Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

NAFTA Superhighway - (hope this is the correct forum). I don't

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
schmuls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:09 AM
Original message
NAFTA Superhighway - (hope this is the correct forum). I don't
listen to MSM 24/7, so I'm wondering...Has the NAFTA superhighway even been mentioned? Seems to me if it has, it would have been Lou Dobbs or Jack Cafferty (these two are really pissed about * and our government). Anyway, for something so major, and something * definitely would want to hide from people, I have heard nothing. And talk about taxation without representation...for the billions this thing is going to cost and for the fact that congress never approved it (am I right?).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:13 AM
Response to Original message
1. I've heard Lou Dobbs talk
about it several times. I recall reading another article a couple of weeks ago, but can't remember where it was. I don't think congress has to approve it as long as it is going to be a no bid contract to Haliburton. Cheney will just 'give' it to them. He seems to think he doesn't need congress approval on anything.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
schmuls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:16 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Yes, but our taxes are going toward the project, aren't they?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:22 AM
Response to Reply #2
5. No your taxes will not pay for it. Tolls will pay for it. "Unless the
Edited on Fri Sep-01-06 10:23 AM by Vincardog
tolls are not enough then your taxers will guarantee their income.

By the way private toll roads have never been a financial success.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:17 AM
Response to Original message
3. I googled this..
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15497






Immigration & Foreign Affairs

Bush Administration Quietly Plans NAFTA Super Highway
by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted Jun 12, 2006



Text Size: S M L
printer-friendly
forward to a friend
email the editor
digg this story



The NAFTA Super Highway

Patrick Buchanan Sounds Alarm in 'State of Emergency'

After Castro

Crisis in the Middle East: Civilization at Stake

Immigration Reform Will Help Keep This Nation Strong




Quietly but systematically, the Bush Administration is advancing the plan to build a huge NAFTA Super Highway, four football-fields-wide, through the heart of the U.S. along Interstate 35, from the Mexican border at Laredo, Tex., to the Canadian border north of Duluth, Minn.











Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:23 AM
Response to Reply #3
6. Careful about using Corsi as a source...
since he co-authored this book:



Sid
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:53 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. then how about this,,, same outrage different author
N.A.F.T.A. SUPERHIGHWAY BEGINS CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR





By Joe Kress

July 4, 2006

NewsWithViews.com

“Quietly, but systematically, the Bush Administration is advancing the plan to build a huge NAFTA 10 lane super highway, four football fields wide through the heart of the U.S. along Interstate 35, from the Mexican border at Laredo, Tex., to the Canadian border north of Duluth. Minn.

Unbeknownst to the general public because of a “George W. edict” we became a part of the North American Union. Sieg Heil! http://www.newswithviews.com/Kress/joe6.htm


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:13 PM
Response to Reply #7
13. Oh, I have no doubt about the highway...
in fact, there have been previous posts here, and this is the offical site for the corridor:
http://www.nascocorridor.com/

I was just mentioning that Corsi is pretty much personna non grata around here (as he should be). Sorry I wasn't more clear.

Sid
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-02-06 07:32 AM
Response to Reply #7
15. "newswithviews" is a far right website too
Try, for instance, a Google search of their views on the ACLU: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Awww.newswithviews.com+aclu&btnG=Google+Search
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
schmuls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #3
12. I forgot to mention that the Teamsters Union is up in arms over
all this because they will be locked out!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:19 AM
Response to Original message
4. The TX state legislator approved it. They let Gov. Good Hair
sign a deal with a Spanish company for them to sell our roads and water. They are going to have a guaranteed income from our dollars. What ever happened to Government providing for the common welfare? Why does a Spanish company get to make money selling my ground water to Mexico? and who wants a bunch of Mexican labors unloading freight in Mexico to pass thru customs in Kansas City?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:12 AM
Response to Original message
8. Farmers furious at governor over proposed superhighway
HILLSBORO, Texas - Leroy Walters has survived many a threat on the farm that has been in his family for 120 years - droughts, hailstorms, tornadoes, grasshopper attacks.

But now he sees a manmade danger on the horizon: a colossal, 600-mile superhighway that will plow clear across Texas, perhaps cutting through Walters' milo and corn fields, obliterating family houses and robbing his grandchildren of their land.

"I don't think they're going to want to pay a toll to go across this land," he said. "They want to enjoy it free, as Texans should enjoy it."

That kind of fear and anger among farmers and landowners across the Texas countryside could become a political problem for Republican Gov. Rick Perry as he runs for re-election in November.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/news/state/15100101.htm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:21 AM
Response to Original message
9. I looked at the map. The whole thing looks like a way to direct business
away from the coastal cities that didn't support bush and into those "heartland" areas that did. New York and San Francisco aren't even shown on the map and there is no direct link to the entire east coast. Although to me not having this boondoggle in your backyard seems like a definite plus, what with the unregulated Mexican trucks flying up and down the middle of the country. Also seems like an easy way to get drugs into the country. Not to mention the difficulty of building the effin thing. Remember the "Big Dig" ? This is like 10 times as big and you can foresee 100 times the screwups. The good news is its being proposed by the bush administration and they haven't done one thing right in 6 years. They'll fuck this up so bad it'll never get done (although Halliburton will probably get paid a trillion dollars for fucking it up).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FormerDem06 Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:29 AM
Response to Original message
10. Allow me to blow your socks off with this crap......
Imagine this.....Goods come into Mexico, are loaded onto trucks by Mexicans. They are driven by Mexicans to a MEXICAN Inland Port in Kansas City where they are inspected and then put back on the trucks and driven straight through to Canada. Not a single US dockworker, truck driver or shipping unloader ever touches this stuff.

The companies are getting their labor for cheap in Mexico, and because of lax labor laws are allowed to work themselves to death. Meanwhile, profits from this road go to Mexico, Canada and Spanish and American Corporations. Meanwhile over 1 million acres of land have been taken away from landowners to make these corporations happy. The mexican standard of living stays the same, and the US standard of living goes down.




http://www.spp.gov/

this is the government agency that is sponsoring the project.


They are putting sovreign Mexican land on US soil here:

http://www.kcsmartport.com/sec_news/media/articles/ajt_052305.htm


I will pick from a WorldNetDailey story (forgive the source, but they are outraged about this as I am):

===============================================================================================
The documents make clear that Mexico demanded Kansas City pay all costs.

To date, the Kansas City Council has voted a $2.5 million loan to KC SmartPort to build the Mexican customs facility in the West Bottoms near Kemper Arena on city-owned land east of Liberty Street and mostly south of Interstate 670.

"Kansas City, Mo., is leasing the site to Kansas City SmartPort," Tasha Hammes of the development council wrote to WND last month. "It will NOT be leased to any Mexican government agency or to be sovereign territory of Mexico."

Yet, an e-mail written June 21, 2004, by Chris Gutierrez, the president of the KC SmartPort, stated that the Mexican customs office space "would need to be designated as Mexican sovereign territory and meet certain requirements."

Even more recently, an e-mail dated March 10 of this year was sent by Gutierrez to a long list of recipients that left no doubt that KC SmartPort has not yet received federal government approval to move forward with the Mexican customs facility. Gutierrez informed the e-mail recipients that the processing a critical form, designated "C-175," needs approval by the U.S. Customs and Border Protection before the form is passed to the State Department for final approval. The processing and approval of the C-175 application is holding up the final approval of the Mexican customs facility.

In the same memo, Gutierrez reported on a recent meeting in Washington: "Both sides (U.S. and Mexican officials) met several weeks ago and the 'document' or as the U.S. refers to it the 'C-175' is near completion. This document is the basis for the procedural, regulatory, jurisdictional, etc. for the project. It defines what will happen and how and what laws, etc. allow this to happen. Both sides have put a lot of effort into this document."

Gutierrez appeared concerned that the intensive lobbying done by KC SmartPort could be a wasted effort if the final U.S. government approvals were not completed before Mexico elected a new president this week.
==============================================================================
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. Is our Congress critters aware of this? Can "we the people"
derail this project? Is it set in stone? Maybe this would make a big noise come 2006 election time. No doubt most Americans would look to kill it and rightfully so.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:15 PM
Response to Original message
11. Great Houston TV News Report on the Texas Corridor
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 09:38 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC