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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:45 PM
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I just had to sign my son's opt-out form for sharing info w/ military.
Yeah, the NCLB form had to be signed and returned. He is 7 years old and in the second grade, but I don't want anyone figuring out his age and eligibility when he is 18.

Geez. What are we coming to. He can barely manage to get his homework done.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:54 PM
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1. Good for you. I hate that commercial on TV where the young man
is telling his mother he found someone who will pay for his college cost. It is an outright lie. Maybe in none war years it worked but now you have to stay alive long enough to get to college.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:56 PM
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3. Thanks. My kid is ADD, and I hope we can get it corrected. But I
don't even want the military tracking his age and grade level for fear that if we hold him back once or twice, they might try to entice him to drop out and join up when he's 18. part of the fascists' program.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:10 PM
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12. Thursday's NYT had a frontpage article on longevity and heredity
Edited on Thu Aug-31-06 11:23 PM by Bozita
Height is 85% heritable.
ADHD 75%
Memory 22%

on edit:

I think you did the right thing, Ilsa.


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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:55 PM
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2. They'll still know his age and eligibility.
He has a social security card, doesn't he? And you claim him as a dependent in your taxes, I presume. And every state has a bureau of vital statistics with birth certificate information.

So he'll still get a notice about registration for the draft. What he won't get (if they follow the law) are recruitment calls before he turns 18.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:57 PM
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4. Hopefully, we'll be able to help him stay on board in school
and he'll want college. I hate that they have any info on him.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:59 PM
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5. Believe me, I know.
Edited on Thu Aug-31-06 11:03 PM by pnwmom
It made me sick when my son had to register.

By the way, I realized another way they probably get lots of names -- driver's licenses. What 18 yr. old boy doesn't want to have one of those?
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:10 PM
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11. If he wants financial aid for college, he will have to register for draft.
There's no way to get around it. CO status doesn't even enter into the picture, your son will still have to register for the draft, if he wants ANY Federal financial aid. Funny thing is, this is only for males. Females, at this point, do not have to register to be eligible for aid.

What you are doing will help keep the recruiters phone calls away, but the Fed Gov. has basically made it impossible for anyone who is not wealthy to avoid registering for the draft.
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thingsarelookingup Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:06 PM
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9. We don't get the opt-out until 6th grade
I've worked registration at my 6-12 secondary school for two years in a row and I've made it my mission to make sure parents know exactly what will happen if they don't sign the form. Opt-out is so sneaky rather than an opt-in.

I know that on my campus 1800 registrations go through and only a handful chose not to sign them once they knew what it was for.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:00 PM
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6. Seems that we are on the path to the youth corp in amerika, brown shirts,
black pants with hob nail boots for the new public school system dress codes next? My girl friend also had to sign the form to keep the military out of her son's records, he's 15. The school, Union High, was also trying to get her to sign the boy up for ROTC classes, they were really pushing it this year with be a "real" american parent thyme.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:04 PM
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7. What part of the country are you in? That's scary. n/t
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:13 PM
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14. Michigan, in the heart of republican land where even street bums
cheer for shrub.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:33 PM
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18. Republican Land?
Edited on Thu Aug-31-06 11:35 PM by marmar
Where in our great (blue) state are you?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:04 PM
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8. Teach him now... "FUCK YOU RECRUITER BIATCH"
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:07 PM
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10. How exactly does one go about doing this
I have three nephews 5, 8 and 12 - I want their Mother to do this but I don't know what she needs to do....can you help me understand what she should do?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:11 PM
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13. Call the district office and request the forms, one for ea. kid.
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jerry611 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:16 PM
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15. Well, you still technically have to register with Selective Service
It is federal law that all males must register with the Selective Service System when they turn age 18. The Selective Service is a database established after the Vietnam war that will opperate a lottery system in the event congress and the president authorize another military draft.

Technically he could face fines or jail if he refuses to register. However there has not been a single case that was prosecuted.
But if you do refuse to register, your son cannot recieve any federal money for education, cannot recieve any federal grants, and government will never employ him.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:17 PM
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16. Somewhere in my child free life, I must have missed the memo.
Back in my day even with the draft, no one signed up until they were about seventeen. Since when do little children have to be entered into the system for anything other than the milk progams, school lunches and vaccinations? I am horrifed!
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:32 PM
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17. I have two boys... and the military will have to kill me to get them
No child of mine will ever die in a rich man's war.

You keep your kid safe now!
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