Mike Malloy... .I love him and hate to see him go , but...

[RethugAssKicker]

you have to admit... if anyone disagreed with him, even just a tiny, tiny bit... he just took control, ranted and went completely ballistic.... I've never heard him give a conservative caller 1 second to try to explain his/her position..

I think he is as knowledgable as Thom Hartmann, but I think Thom probably has changed many a conservative callers opinions...

Mike just destroyed them and turned them even further to the dark side.

I really don't think anyone here on DU can disagree with me...

If not , flame on!

[Nickster]

Do you really think any re-thug who bothered to call was looking for

anything other than to pick a fight with Mike?

[RethugAssKicker]

4. As much as I hate Rethugs...

and I kick many a rethug ass... I did hear some

call Mike and try to have a conversation... But it was truly impossible with Mike sometimes.

[Nickster]

24. Well, when the MSM stops giving free, unfettered access to the right-wing

talking points, then I'll worry about giving them equal access to the small portion of the airwaves allocated to me in the late hours of the evening. They have plenty of flamethrowers on their side to fire up the base, can I pretty please have ONE? Please?

Mike always spoke the truth, maybe he was a little too intense for some people, but he sure as heck made me feel pretty good in the evening. I always thought it was ok that he didn't speak to everyone else, because the rest of the AAR lineup offered such a varied offering that people could find something that spoke to them. I sure don't listen to the entire lineup, some I like better than others. My favorites have always been Mike and Randi. Not once have I thought about slamming one of the other hosts because they were too milquetoast for me. I didn't listen to them.

[RethugAssKicker]

31. I know... Mike and Rhandi have always been my favorite too..

But lately Mike has gone a little too much over the edge..

I certainly don't want the Rethugs to have EQUAL time... but GEEZ, fucking Malloy didn't give 'em 1 second.

[Nickster]

35. Too bad for them. Why is Mike obligated to give them anything?

I don't see any outrage when he's talked over when he is on other shows. Why do we always have to suffer with the double standards? Screw 'em. If a listener is too stupid to make a proper decision about their politics without basing it on hearing angry things on the radio....I say we didn't need them anyways. I highly doubt anyone but the base was listening to Mike in the evenings. He spoke for me and that's what I wanted.

If I want to hear the right wing spin, I can easily turn the dial to one of many options at anytime of day. Guess what? They aren't letting me on the air, and they sure aren't trying to convert me. The scary part, they are trying to pass off their drivel as main stream talk....it ain't politics....it's just a regular non-partisan guy giving you some good ole Mark Twain type common sense. Remember the Glenn Beck ads? "I'm just a common sense guy" or some such crap....he didn't say he was a political pundit who liked to talk about killing people....no....he's just some kind of regular guy who feels the deep hatred and racism just like YOU and ME! Our guys are grouped together in a bunch on a clearly marked politics channel, not the local network news or satellite news channel. You know what you're getting with our guys. They are everywhere. We need to get angry and fight back or we'll be sorry way to late to do anything about it.

[RethugAssKicker]

47. I agree.... We do need to get ANGRY

I hate wusses like Springer or Franken.

Again, Mike was my man, but if you ever listened for months to Hartman, I think you'll see my point.

[Nickster]

52. I like Thom a lot. But just like my music, sometimes I want to listen to

hard banging heavy metal and other times I want to listen to Chopin. It doesn't have to be an either/or situation. If you love Mike and hate the rethugs, I don't really see what your complaint is. He's shrill? So what, that's just the way I like him and when I'm in the mood, I want to turn him on and soak up all that lovely shrillness. When he gets to be too much, I start listening to something else and when I'm ready, he's right there.

[GreenTea]

1. Yes, and the right-wing is cheering loudly!!! They are HAPPY!!!

[Individualist]

28. So are DLCers and their supporters

They're gleefully kicking Mike when he's down and doing the same to Mike's fans.

[Beelzebud]

51. It's just payback, in their minds, for Lieberman getting booted.

[bdamomma]

29. never underestimate Mike he will be back

[shireen]

2. it's a different style

Mike has repeatedly said that he has no interest in "teaching", or trying to convert people on the dark side. Comparing his show to Thom Hartmann's show (which I really like) is like comparing apples and oranges.

[KittyWampus]

13. Yes, and his "Style" is very similar to Coulter and Rush's. It's Toxic

[frylock]

23. nonsense..

they make shit up. Mike has his facts straight.

[MADem]

3. They need that airtime slot between now and 08

They need to reach out to the MUSHY MIDDLE....the MM show was preaching to the choir.

[RethugAssKicker]

8. Do you know whos going to take that slot ?

I'll be really pissed off if its a wuss like Springer ?

[MADem]

19. Nope, and they might not know either, yet

But there's a whole crowd of people in the middle, many of whom work nights, that need to be reached with something other than Limbaugh-like language. For those who already agree that the GOP are a bunch of craven assholes, MM is great...but we have an election to win in 08, and they've got to stake out that time slot and grow a product that people are LISTENING to in 07. And they're listening because it appeals across a wide range.

I don't know this for a fact, but I strongly suspect it. The theme is that DEMOCRATS are REASONABLE, interesting, engaging, and have YOUR best interests at heart....REPUBLICANS are HATE-FILLED, screaming, spittle-flecked ASSHOLES.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

5. Another problem with him

I enjoyed his rants but I often thought that if some non-political person happened to tune in they'd get the both-parties-suck message. And that's not going to help this country. Yeah, there are problems with Dems and Joe Lieberman sucks ass, but we really need to get the Republicans out. He did say that all the time but then he'd often undercut it with Democrat bashing.

[maseman]

6. You are correct

When Mike Malloy was on WLS in Chicago he was such a powerful talk host. He didn't get as angry and fire-beathing as he did recently on AAR. He took a number of calls from the right and he would debate someone calmly into submission. It was so great.

But at AAR he just screamed and did the same shot that Hannity and Savage do. Malloy is so damn intelligent and I know I agree with his politics, but he was tough to listen to everynight. A little went a long way.

I have been in radio for over 15 years now and can say that as emotional as people are here at DU it by far is not the masses. His show was on late night radio when very few people overall are using radio. It is a tough sell especially when he wasn't cleared in a number of the larger AAR markets. That wasn't AAR's fault but local affiliates fault who decides what programming to air. If someone wants Lionel from WOR or a re-run of Franken that is the local owners decision.

[Cleita]

7. Rush Limbaugh does the same. I believe it's part of their style.

However, the BIG difference is that Rush won't even let anyone who disagrees with him on the air so fewer dissenters get past the screeners. At least Mike let them say their schtick before using them for target practice. Thom's approach is more civil I agree, but at times I just know that those are freepers trying to stir up the pot and they don't want to be presented with logical arguments, they just want to shout and insult all liberal ideas. Mike as well as Randi can smell them even before we do and they send them packing.

[rinsd]

9. That is why you see such an emotional response from his fans

They identified with him.

Part of the reason I hate scream radio is validates the position that any disagreement with one's own opinion should be treated as suspect at best and countered with as much anger as possible.

People haved called his rants cathartic and I can see that sometimes one needs to vent. But how cathartic can it be to be wound up every single night?

[KittyWampus]

10. Malloy's a Reactionary Screamer. Always ranting about the day's outrage

NEVER really coming up with solutions and plans for tomorrow or next month.

He is filled with Hate and is too much like Rush. He just makes those who are Reactionary Screamers like himself feel they're normal.

His shrill diatribes pollute the airwaves from the Left.

No one whom I really respect needs to be that loud to make their points.

[springhill]

14. For those of us who loved him......

We don't need to hear your crap. The outrageous crimes going on in our government call for more than the Al Frankens and Jerry Springers. I don't even read an op-ed unless it expresses the outrage of what is going on. Similary, when it comes to talk-show hosts, I cannot stand to listen to the mamby pamby, lets just do better in the next election stuff. Totally not proportionate to what is going on today. Whether it converted anyone or not, I don't know. But I do know this; it was the most cathartic thing in the world for me to hear someone validating the helplessness and rage I feel towards our governemt. And my adivce if you don't like listening to someone? Don't listen.

[frylock]

25. well stated..

we need someone to voice our rage, and I'm fucking pissed.

[Nickster]

26. I always felt pretty darn good after listening to Mike, he voiced my anger

I always wondered how anyone who was paying attention wouldn't be as outraged. Were they even paying attention? Then I hear Mike and go "ahhhhhh, someone gets it....".

[Mad_Dem_X]

77. Yes, it was a relief to hear someone

as pissed as I am!

[Beelzebud]

46. Malloy like Rush? What planet are you from?

[never_get_over_it]

11. Actually you're right

and it has gotten much worse lately - and actually I haven't liked it that much - and have thought Mike don't even bother taking the calls - but it is his style - all hosts have their own style and purpose and Mike's purpose was to voice our rage....which for me has been very important....we need him back and soon.

[Swamp Rat]

12. I disagree 100% with everything you say.

1. He let wingers have more than 1 second.

2. Malloy is not trying to 'convert' conservatives.

3. RW nutjobs are already on the dark side.

4. I think people on DU can and will disagree with you.

5. No flames.

[RethugAssKicker]

16. BS ! RW HAD ONLY 1 SECOND

2. HE SHOULD BE TRYING TO FUCKING CONVERT

3. YEAH BUT MAYBE WE CAN BRING THEM INTO THE LIGHT A LITTLE

4. FUCK EM IF THEY DISAGREE WITH ME

5. FLAME ALL YOU WANT !

Thats how Mike was... pretty silly isn't it. Constantly screaming at all who didn't agree with him..

Did you like me screaming at you ? and thats only in print
Alot worse verbally

[Swamp Rat]

20. LOL!!! You should change your screen name.

:rofl:

[RethugAssKicker]

30. To What?

[Swamp Rat]

33. Since you are for civil war and dividing the nation, how about

'The Divider'

Quote from post #27:

"I'm for splitting this country in two, one for us and one for the rethugs....even if it takes another civil war !.. Thats how serious I am...."

[RethugAssKicker]

37. I see it more as "SAVIOUR"

Saving the rational people from evil..

[Swamp Rat]

39. How Orwellian!!! ... How about "WAR MONGER" since you want civil war?

What you suggest is not rational AT ALL. Civil war in this country already killed a lot of Americans.

Why would you want more death and destruction?

How is THAT rational?

[RethugAssKicker]

41. We didn't finish the job....

We allowed the slave captors to continue pretty much the same practices as before..

Now look what we have, the South has risen again .. its called the Rethuglican Party.. and it is now occupying Washington.

These people are not my brothers and sisters !.. If they had it their way, they'd have all us liberals in jail or dead !

[Swamp Rat]

45. What do you mean "we didn't finish the job?

Do you want to kill everyone in the South because you equate it with the Republican Party?

I am a 'liberal' from the Deep South. Do you want to kill me too?

[RethugAssKicker]

50. Take it easy SwampRat

I'm just venting... kinda like Malloy..

And I live in the South too..

But yes, I do think the Union should have occupied the South and applied much harsher penalties than they did....and yes, maybe some re-education classes.

After the war, they basically allowed the South to do whatever they wanted.... except to impose slavery again !

[Swamp Rat]

53. Ok, vent all you want.

Though, you might take your own advice. Later on, after you cool down, you will see that I have been calm during our entire discussion. :hi:



Edit: I suggest you read up on the horrors imposed upon the people in the South during Reconstruction.

[RethugAssKicker]

56. One mans "his story" is another mans bull shit.

I don't want to get into a debate on the civil war...

I'm originally from the hated "NYC"... but one thing I know for sure... That southern mentality is totally embraced by the GOP, and they are carrying out that philosophy on a global scale.

and people possessing that mentality .. are my sworn enemies.

[Swamp Rat]

63. Well, then according to you, we are mortal enemies.

I have a 'southern mentality' - I cannot help that I was born and raised in the South. See you in the battlefield. :sarcasm:



Btw, why would you call NYC "hated?" Do you hate NYC?

[RethugAssKicker]

86. I meant

the old southern racist mentality... I assume that is not yours.

And I learned long ago when I moved down here to Atlanta... that being from NY (especially THE BRONX) is not very popular down here.

[B Calm]

93. Republican callers weren't looking to be converted, more like disrupting

the best talk show in America. I'm surprised you didn't realize why they called in!

[greguganus]

15. Yeah Mike's gone now so lets all line up and take turns kicking him n/t

[RethugAssKicker]

18. Is that how you see this post ?

You shouldn't.

I have been saying this for years now.

BTW, I live in Atlanta and have known Mike for 17 years !

[longship]

17. Same reason why Repukes are not allowed here.

Malloy states clearly that he will not stomach Repuke talking points. He warns them right off the bat that if they call in, expect to be taken down hard.

Here at DU Repukes are tombstoned out right. They are not even given a forum here.

Malloy allows anybody to call in, but his is a liberal show and Mike does not have to let people use his show to advocate for the neocons. So, he doesn't.

Anyway, a Malloy take-down is good radio, whether you personally like it or not.

[Smarmie Doofus]

21. I agree. He's a bit strident for my taste.

He's got a hard core audience of true believers.

He's got passion. They've got passion. Passion is good. But....

1. Ya gotta get non-true believers to listen also.

2. The general idea is that you have to be *persuasive*. That means making true believers out of agnostics (political, that is) and non-true-believers.

Otherwise , why bother going on the air at all? I prefer advocates that are willing and able to communicate with the other side.

[ChiciB1]

22. Seems Like You've Forgotten People Like Rush & O'Leilly!

Rolling over is just what THEY want! Democrats come out and make a point, the Repukes holler, Democrats take it back. Democrats put up an ad, Repukes holler, Democrats take is down! I could go on and on!

Why do you think we're in this mess?? BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS BACK DOWN!

I'm SICK OF IT!! I'm an American, I live here and I've had my fill of what they have done to "our" America!!!

Okay, just back off and let it go.... ONE MORE TIME! We know how to eat shit pretty well by now! Well it's time for some whipped cream! And if we can't get it from OUR Leaders, we have to get it where we can!!

Sorry I don't agree with your post!!

[RethugAssKicker]

27. Look , you don't hate the Rethugs

as much as I do... I'm for splitting this country in two, one for us and one for the rethugs....even if it takes another civil war !.. Thats how serious I am....

but... I listened to Mike EVERY night... and he came off too belligerent... That doesn't work in a public arena !

And I love the guy!!!

[ChiciB1]

32. I Don't HATE Anyone.... I Don't Use That Word!

I just don't like backing down ALL THE TIME!!

[RethugAssKicker]

34. Not using "that" word is kinda of backing down !

[sendero]

36. Yeah..

.... Rush, O-Really, Hannity, Savage or (I could go on) would never do that.

Let Big Ed do the conversions, that was not Malloy's role. I'm glad you are not a coach, you'd put ll linebackers on the field.

[whiterabbit76]

38. Mike was for the Left...

I don't think that Mike ever intended to change the mind of any right wing nut! I agree that Thom tries to talk some sense into these freaks and I am sure that he gets through to some. Mike, on the other hand is a voice for the Left, he puts into words the disgust, the frustration, and even the hatred that we have for these criminals and their supporters. A right wing caller on the Malloy show was like a piece of raw meat in a Lion's Den...

[B Calm]

40. Not one republican caller who ever called Malloy was looking

for a change of opinion! This is just another flame post against the GREATEST TALK SHOW HOST!

[RethugAssKicker]

43. GEEZ.... do you always exaggerate like this?

[B Calm]

49. What the hell is your problem!

[Beelzebud]

54. He's just getting some payback for what the crazy left did to Joementum.

(probably not, but it's fun to make shit up and talk out your ass, much like this thread.) :D

[B Calm]

57. I think you're right Beelzebud

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[EFerrari]

42. Mike isn't going anywhere. And he'll probably come out ahead

because AAR management went temporarily insane.

[mitchtv]

48. Thank god we have Bernie Ward

just as cool and a bit nicer(just a bit)

[Swamp Rat]

55. ... and Ray Taliaferro if you want to hear big time rants!

:D

[Beelzebud]

44. As if Malloy's right-wing callers could be "changed"....

What a silly assumption.

Mike was the release valve. Who fills his place now?

[RethugAssKicker]

58. Not the RWs.. but the middle of the road... the non political

[Beelzebud]

60. The non political don't sit up at midnight listening to political talk...

[RethugAssKicker]

67. If you had a 20 year old son

which AAR host would you want him to listen to first?

For me, its Thom Hartmann. Although I think Mike is as intelligent, my 20 year old son wouldn't learn much how to deal with opposing views.

I have literally heard Thom turn luke-warm Rethugs around!.. And I like the way he does it,, he doesn't kiss ass like Springer.. He just tells 'em as it is... then moves on..

Plus just like you have different moods, Mike didn't... He kicked ass every night (lol)... I like it too, but not every night!

[Beelzebud]

68. I would expect my 20 year old son could think for himself....

[RethugAssKicker]

71. Yes

but we all form our opinions from what we read, or what we hear... Not completely, but mostly.

[B Calm]

70. When my son was 20 he was listening to Malloy on WLS and

it started his interest in politics. He's still a huge Malloy fan!

[B Calm]

62. The only thing in the middle of the road is dead armadillos

[RethugAssKicker]

69. LOL...

but young people are very influencable (is that a word?)..
More than you may realize.

[B Calm]

76. Jimmi Hendrex influenced young people and Malloy is the Jimmi

Hendrex of talk!

[PresidentWar]

59. I personally liked his show.

And of course he was that caustic to people he didn't agree with - that was part of his shtick. As it is for his opposites on the reich side. But I do wish DUers wouldnt go off into tin foil land on his firing from AAR. From what I gather, it was his ratings that got him axed and the hard truth about radio is, even Christ himnself couldnt stay on the air with low ratings.

[Beelzebud]

61. I love my wife, and never wanted to beat her, but....

:D

[Swamp Rat]

66. Have you ever heard the phrase "anything after 'but' is bullshit?"

I heard it a lot during my youth. :)

[earth mom]

64. C'mon now. What do O'Lielly, i'm-on-a-Rush or Mann Coulter do

but stomp the HELL out of anyone who disagrees with them?!

Why in the hell does the left have to be polite anymore after all the shit THUGS like them and others have said and done to us?!

FUCK THAT! The time for nicey nice is over!

If you don't get that given your user name, I really don't understand what you are doing here with that name in the first place! :eyes:

[Beelzebud]

65. Oh but we have to be nice, so everyone will like us and vote for us!

You know. Because it's just such a winning strategy.

Having 1 guy on at midnight, who acts pissed off, might make all the wee little moderates pee their wittle pissy pants, and we can't have that!

[RethugAssKicker]

73. I kick many a Rethug ass... but I use common sense too..

Thats why I'm a proud liberal !

[earth mom]

87. The common sense thing to do is FIGHT them at their own game!

The THUGS have control of the airwaves and the corporate media and they are the ones shrieking morning noon and night about how horrible we liberals are! Where in the hell is the common sense in either ignoring them or trying to reason with them?! WTF?! Our voices aren't being heard but instead are being cast to the wind or ridiculed by them. Malloys voice was being heard and that freaked the thugs and the powers that be out, don't you see that?!

What happened to Mike should, more than anything else, make every REAL liberal on this board and in this country stand up and take notice!

The THUGS are playing for keeps and they aim to win.

We should do the same or else we are over, done.

[otohara]

72. I Don't Want to Hear Ballistic

occasionally is okay, but Malloy was going nuts just a tad too much for my taste. I quit listening long ago.

[RethugAssKicker]

74. As you can see.. you will be flamed for that opinion...

They will assume your a chump like Springer....

[B Calm]

79. and you had the right to turn him off. My problem is AAR turned him

off. So now all the people who DID want to hear him everynight are just out of luck because a few were turned off by him...

[otohara]

90. Radio Sucks

it's a shitty business, I know cuz I worked in it for 9 years and ended up suing for wrongful termination. People come and go, unfortunately in these days of consolidation it's much harder to rebound in another market. Maybe Clear Channel had it in for Malloy, from what I read, Malloy just signed 2 year contract. My guess AAR is in no bargaining position with evil empire. My friend was just fired after 13 years with that company, he was #1 in his spot for the last 6 years. Yet they fired him???? It's a shitty thankless business, especially for those over 50.

He's gone from AAR. Hopefully he will surface again somewhere else where you can hear him on the internet.

[Mad_Dem_X]

75. We need MORE Libs like him!

We need to start getting ANGRY, start shouting, start putting our collective foot down and say we're not going to take BushCo.'s shit anymore! I love Mike because he was the anti-Rush: An educated, pissed off, unapologetic critic of BushCo. who was not afraid to tell it like it truly is!

[Kashka-Kat]

80. Yknow, I had the same reaction at first- usually I do prefer more reasoned

discourse... enjoy give and take of a real discussion... but gradually I came to enjoy what he did... because he does it so well. Artfully, even. Now, if his was the only approach that got on the air then I'd have a problem, but it isn't. It really isn't. There are any number of liberal/left commentators each with a different approach.

There really is no one approach that reaches all people. In fact, I daresay, that his louder more belligerant approach might very well appeal to some of those right wingers who tend to see things more in black & white, right & wrong. You know, those anti intellectual types who are always criticizing us for being girly, fence straddlers,"weak," etc.

I came to think it was kind of refreshing to see someone from "our" side beating them at their own game-- for once!

[RethugAssKicker]

81. Oh , I want him back too... But sometimes here at DU

if you don't swallow every drop... you're the enemy.

[Beelzebud]

83. He got fired yesterday. Did you not think people would react?

No one says you have to like him, but why all these threads bashing the guy, within the first 48 hours of him being fired? Seemed like a lot of you were very eager to post these "I like Malloy a lot, but..." threads.

[RethugAssKicker]

84. You remind me of a freeper...

If you critise, your unpatriotic and a terrorist.

I live here in Atlanta and have been listening to Mike on and off for 17 years. As my initial post said, I love him, but I also have other feelings too.... If you cant handle that...why don't you get a picture of Mike and go &(*&&^ over it.

[Beelzebud]

85. Golden. I'm a freeper for defending Mike Malloy a day after he's fired.

LOL

Wow. I see another DU break coming on for me. I need it too. Peole like you bring out the worst in me.

[RethugAssKicker]

88. Please make it a long break!

[Beelzebud]

89. I came up with a much easier solution. I just updated my ignore list!

[B Calm]

91. Mike made those right-wing disruptors look like the asses they are!

[ikojo]

92. Does Rush or Hannity or any of their ilk

give liberal callers a chance to have their say? Malloy's show is really not about changing people's minds but rather voicing our rage and there is a lot of rage out there.