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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:04 AM
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What makes republicans so god damned mean?
Mean, mean mean motha fuckas, all of them, they eat mean for breakfast and they can't say anything nice, always pissed off, always insulting and arrogant and pushy. Why?

Were they lonely children? Did they get picked on at the playground? Were they molested by an uncle? Was there mama scared by witch when she was carryin' em?

They want to "kill em all" with nukes, they want to impeach Democratic presidents for something THEY ALL DO. They want to make war, and snarl and sneer and grimace, and force everyone to bend to their will.

What the fuck is wrong with these assholes? I hate mean people.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:07 AM
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1. Everybody is mean
I don't know what you are complaining about. They play the game as if they want to win. We don't so much. I wish we were better at being assholes.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:08 AM
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4. Not me. I'm a sweety.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:32 AM
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13. Well it isn't a game and you certainly don't need to be mean or offensive
to win elections. Bill Clinton is a very good example. Name me a time when he was offensive or mean to any person...
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:04 AM
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25. No - but Clinton had to be Republican Lite and even at that
they still hated him. THey have demonized Democrats and Liberals to the point that we are having a tough time.

Bryant
check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:07 AM
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2. Primarily constipation......
:hurts:
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:07 AM
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3. fear
they are scared witless and it's like a cornered animal. when they are threatened (which they always are cuz they are chicken shit MFers) they lash out

pitiful actually and if they weren't so damned destructive I'd feel sorry for them

what a miserable way to live
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:39 AM
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17. absolutely...
They're afraid because, deep inside, they know they are hypocrites and are living a lie.

They are constantly bombarded by reality which they must reject in order to live their lives.

Deep inside they know they're not any smarter than the school teachers whose salaries they stive to cut.

They know they don't work any harder than the gardener they pay lower than minimum wages to, and they're against even raising minimum wages.

Deep inside they know their children no better than the chidren of "welfare moms" who they seek to deny heath care and education to.

Inside they know that they'd have (or assist a family member in having) an abortion if they had an unwanted pregnancy.

Inside they know that they're trying only to reduce THEIR taxes, while outside they talk about 'fairness'.

Inside they know it's only by the grace of luck that it's not THEIR country that's been invaded by a superpower and it's not THEIR neighborbood whose being bombed.

They live in fear because they know that with a twist of the wind, the majority of people will realize the truth, and that their whole lives will come crashing down and they'll be no better than the rest of us.
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movie_girl99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:30 AM
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38. by gosh you nailed it on the head
everything you wrote describes most of the repugs that i know to a frickin' T.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:11 AM
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5. I don't know, but I sure agree! All anyone has to do is listen to the
WJ any day on cspan! I heard a guy from Caanyon Lake, Tx on Tues AM I think, whowas 100 times worse than Rummy! The one reason I remembered HIM was that I livedfairly close to Canyon Lake several years ago.

My guess is that the meanest sounding of all the ones you hear are those who arepretty wealthy and misers at the same time, and they hate anyone who micht get a penny of what they think is all THEIRS!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:24 AM
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10. GREED. If the bottom line is money, then caring goes out the door
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:14 AM
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6. Not only repugs
read this and be prepared to be sickened:

http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27392
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:33 AM
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14. Religious insanity spans the world
If only, if only, we could make John Lennon's wish come true. "Imagine no religion."
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:21 AM
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7. Because they've got no soul...
If you listened to crackpots like hannity, oxycontin man, et al, you'd be grumpy as hell too.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:21 AM
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8. Actually I think the dynamics are interesting.
On one hand they respond favorably to authoritarian rule while , at the same time, are generally pissed off at the world because they have a sense that they are being taken advantage of and restrained.
What is interesting is that they cannot make the connection. I think there is some kind of character defect that causes them to compartmentalize life without the ability to cross reference. If that makes sense.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:35 AM
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15. They've been very carefully programmed to think in that contradictory way.
It's the only way to get them to vote against their own self-interests.

We've been immune to it for whatever reason. I think you have to be prone to that kind of manipulation to start with for it to work. They are and we're not. And it may be simply dumb luck (where you live, how you were raised, etc.) that determines how much you're influenced by the propaganda.

The important question is, how do we fight it? We can probably do well in November by bringing the fence sitters over to our side but in the longer run we need to be able to somehow help at least a large proportion of these propaganda victims and bring them around to our way of thinking.

How do we do that?
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:38 AM
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16. I think you got it
They get screwed over by their fellow Republicans. The boss doesn't give them a raise or promotion, even though they've kissed ass for years to get it. He needed the money for a big bonus or to hire his son-in law to be his boss. His taxes go up. Local, sales, property, fees, etc, while the wealthy get reductions.

But instead of connecting, he blames illegal immigrants and liberals.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:03 AM
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24. You have pounced on a big part of it.
Authoritarians all want to be the "daddies" or whatever they think "daddy" means, and they want to hand down the rules, make the big decisions.

When they are sufficiently cowed and overpowered, they put all that authoritarian push to work, goose-stepping to the tune of the bigger daddy that bosses them around and the will defend to the death those ideas, even though those notions may be contrary to their own well being, and hold those ideas closely, as though they, themselves, had invented them.

Many women (and I know this won't make me popular) will assert their own authoritarianism by being subservient to their "daddies" and putting up with all kinds of shit, even to being beaten and worse, in order to manipulate them. Those women will also get in line and defend the system to their own demise for pretty much the same reasons as males do.
Aren't humans sooo grand?
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:59 AM
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31. Fortunately I think there are only about 25 - 30% that
have that character aberration. The majority of the people (and I think that this is any country you might look at ) just want to be left alone, go to work, feed their families, etc, etc, and will make a choice at the voting booth based on their own self interest.
Franklin said "Would you persuade, speak of interest, not of reason.
The majority have awaken to what is in their best interest in addition to not liking being played for suckers.
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CardInAustin Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:24 AM
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9. Not all are mean....
But I think the "mean-ness" in some stems from a desire to see the world in black and white. Good and bad. With us and against us. No shades of gray. When you are in the white, as they are, all is good and you stand with the righteous. When you disagree....well....you must be on the "other" side, since we all know there are only two sides.

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:29 AM
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11. Remember that psych story a few months ago?
They were whiny, clingy, tattletale brats whent they were kids and they grew up into whiny, mean adults.

Nothing is going to change them and NOTHING is going to get them to vote Democratic, so the party just needs to stop trying and turn back to US.

The good news is that there are a lot more of us than there are of them.
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FormerDem06 Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:31 AM
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12. I don't think the average Republican is that mean to be honest...
Just as I don't think the average Democrat is a hippie, pot smoking lunatic (to give you a characature from the other side as well).

For a long time, I went to a Methodist Church in NC, and I couldn't tell the Republicans from the Democrats. At work I have the same problem, 200 people and I know 3 staunch Republicans and 4 staunch Democrats.

Everybody else just kind of floats. I do know that the Republicn co-workers I have always say they are tired of relativism. They seem to want Black and White, and the rule of law. I think for them, it's because they live such a straight-laced life and they do everything society tells them, that it makes them mad when somebody else goes out and does the opposite or something different (jumps the border, doesn't work a 60 hour a week job, etc. etc.).

In person, they all come across as pretty good people with differing political viewpoints. All but one is very reasonable when engaged in a debate (which I do quite often actually).

Now the talking heads and the politicians are a different matter, but I think they are mean for profit, IMHO.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:43 AM
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19. the talking heads and the politicians -- they are the meanest.
Those are the ones I really meant to single out.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:41 AM
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18. A big part of it is twenty years of indoctrination by hate speech
For a full generation now, they have had a daily dose of hate speech, a "hate brace," as it were, from the likes of Lush limpballs, and this is the result.

They've been told, over and over, since childhood, that liberals are responsible for all the evil in the world, even the evil they create themselves, because, if there were no liberals, they would not have to be so vile, just to get along.

So-called "conservatives" conserve nothing. They have been handed half-explanations by the haters and cursers that do their thinking for them and have developed a survival system that depends on not having to consider the whole picture-therefore, they don't-and any threat to a closely held belief system always looks like a threat to the survival of the believer.

F'rinstance, case in point--Flies.
Flies are a nuisance, an aggravation, disease spreaders, etc. A liberal, wanting to see the whole picture, would conclude that if we did not have flies, we would have to invent them.
If there were no flies, and ants, the whole world would quickly fill up with all sorts of muck and dead things and people would be kicking the bucket and suffering far more nuisances than they are now.
Liberals say, "Kill off a few flies in your immediate area, if you must, but try not to seriously disturb the whole ecosystem just for your temporary comfort."

Republiclowns would say, "Flies are miserable, bad things with no - ZERO - redeeming social value. We need to kill 'em all. The dirty beggars are responsible for all these bad things and the world would be a better place without them. Look at all the lives we can save!"

They, thereupon, embark on a life saving "crusade" to eliminate flies and if anyone tries to stop them or reason with them, those dirty, smelly fly-lovers are trying to have more people die from disease and fly irritation and that includes me!

It is then incumbent upon them to destroy not only the flies, in the name of _________, but all those fly-hugging enablers.
Simplistic? Yes. Accurate? Hell yes!
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:22 AM
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36. The popularity of what we call hate radio was a backlash...
Political correctness had gotten ridiculous. Listening to someone say it like it is which was usually what the listener dared not say was refreshing. The more non-PC a dj was the more money and fans rolled in. The right wing took advantage of this and here we are...

Progressives/Liberals still tend to be too PC for the average joe. Although it is against our nature to dumb down our message we sometimes make no sense to anyone not in the choir.
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:49 AM
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20. Pursuit of more money............eom
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:56 AM
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21. oh, I get it....
;)
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:57 AM
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22. I like to think of them as the challenges put into our lives to help
us grow and develop spiritually. That's on my good days...the rest of the time I am stunned by evil.
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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:01 AM
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23. NPD?
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:05 AM
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26. It is a function of the obesity epidemic!
Their shorts are too tight...
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:07 AM
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27. Well, here's my answer...
The GOPers actually used to be quite nice. Very intellectual and all that. That was back in the days of the Rockefeller Repubs. But back in 1948 and the Dems decided to nominate Harry Truman, many of the southern Democrat boys balked because he'd ordered the integration of the Armed Services. So they started their own party (The Dixiecrats) and got trounced.

Then in the 60s Barry Goldwater went bat-shit crazy saying "extremism in support of liberty is no vice." LBJ then showed the famous Daisy/Nuke ads on TV and scared people shitless. LBJ swamped Goldwater as a result.

But them southern boys liked what they heard from this New Republican. And to clinch the deal, after LBJ pushed the 1964 Civil Rights Bill through Congress and then started his War on Poverty, they'd seen enough. Even though the Republicans were the party of Lincoln whose Northern boys had beat the crap out of the south, they held their noses and joined. The result: Nixon and the GOP we have today.

So the answer to your question is simple, the GOP of today is the old southern racists, religio-facist, conservative, family-values Democrats of yesterday. They were always mean and they're still mad about the Civil War too.
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MadAsHell Donating Member (571 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:26 AM
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28. Worth a thought ...
Edited on Thu Aug-31-06 09:27 AM by MadAsHell
All conservatives are such from personal defects. They have been effeminated by position or nature, born halt and blind, through luxury of their parents, and can only, like invalids, act on the defensive.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:44 AM
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29. It's a personality disorder...
... like narcissism or borderline. They really can't help it, just like we can't help caring about other people and wanting to help our fellow humans.

We've all seen liberal families with the one rightwingnut kid... his genetic dice just came up snake-eyes.

Like so many other genetic conditions, it is triggered and entrenched by opportunity. You take a kid with the gene for Republicanism and you expose him to Limpballs and Hanutty, and he turns into a monster. You build a society with herds of Limpballs and Hanuttys and you have a fertile hothouse for the growth of new Repubs who now feel free to say in public what they used to say only in private to each other.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:47 AM
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30. Is it the church?
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:01 AM
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32. How to spot a baby conservative
Remember the whiny, insecure kid in nursery school, the one who always thought everyone was out to get him, and was always running to the teacher with complaints? Chances are he grew up to be a conservative.

At least, he did if he was one of 95 kids from the Berkeley area that social scientists have been tracking for the last 20 years. The confident, resilient, self-reliant kids mostly grew up to be liberals.

The study from the Journal of Research Into Personality isn't going to make the UC Berkeley professor who published it any friends on the right. Similar conclusions a few years ago from another academic saw him excoriated on right-wing blogs, and even led to a Congressional investigation into his research funding.

A few decades later, Block followed up with more surveys, looking again at personality, and this time at politics, too. The whiny kids tended to grow up conservative, and turned into rigid young adults who hewed closely to traditional gender roles and were uncomfortable with ambiguity.

The confident kids turned out liberal and were still hanging loose, turning into bright, non-conforming adults with wide interests. The girls were still outgoing, but the young men tended to turn a little introspective.


http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1142722231554




Conservatives are Whiny and Weak

Similar work by John T. Jost of Stanford and colleagues in 2003 drew a political backlash. The researchers reviewed 44 years worth of studies into the psychology of conservatism, and concluded that people who are dogmatic, fearful, intolerant of ambiguity and uncertainty, and who crave order and structure are more likely to gravitate to conservatism. Critics branded it the "conservatives are crazy" study and accused the authors of a political bias.

Republicans have tried to turn George W. Bush's rigidity into moral certainty, as the article reminds us. But that moral certainly is turning to dust through the innumerable IEDs and bombs blowing up in the Iraqi desert.

Moral certainty must be accompanied by the humility to evaluate your position when things go wrong. Rigidity is what makes you unable to recalibrate and refocus when needed.

The Republicans' "stay the course" attitude that is buffered by "victory" has been proven wrong, but their dogmatic ideology won't allow them to correct their devastating course. It starts when they are kids.

http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=2105



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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:08 AM
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33. Sexual repression.
If they'd get over their obsession with the fact they or their followers think sex is wrong, a sin, a perversion, whatever, they'd quit sticking their noses in other people's sex lives, e.g., women, children, lgbt, liberal men, etc.


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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:09 AM
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34. They ARE mean, aren't they....?
They take pride in it and try to outdo one another.
Even their sense of 'humor' is rooted in being mean-spirited.

Michelle Malkin tries to out-mean Ann Coulter on a regular basis.

Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, Bill Bennett....BARBARA BUSH....just really, really nasty people.

I have seen one nice republican: Former NM Governor Gary Johnson, who is quite personable. He's rare, though.

Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins don't come across as being as nasty as, say Katherine Harris, Jean Schmidt or Kay Bailey Hutchinson.


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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:11 AM
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35. Yankee and Red Sox fans...
seem mean(for good reason)to each other during the season. Just as assaulting a fan for the opposite team does nothing to help your team win, once a person adopts an "us vs them" mentality, logic does not apply.

Our side in the game of politics seems to spend way too much time on defense and not enough time with offense.

When talking points are sent out that liberals are godless, we should have shot back with conservatives are religious extremists.

Advertising what we are NOT rather than what we are and what they are is playing into their hands.
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:23 AM
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37. Besides the need
to think of everything in black and white, having the 'I got mine' attitude and years of mean spirited and untrue propaganda washed into their heads, there's one other mean trait many heavey-duty RW'ers have: intolerance.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:32 AM
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39. You'd be mean to if everyone was always laughing at you and you couldn't
ever get laid!
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:52 AM
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40. nature or nurture?
"That woman really knows how to hate." - Richard Nixon about Barbara Bush








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