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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 07:45 AM
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The Last Days On Earth-ABC
Edited on Thu Aug-31-06 07:58 AM by RestoreGore
The Last Days On Earth

The one message you got from watching this was that we are more of a threat to our own existence than any black hole or gamma ray, and that is the most frightening part of it all. Al Gore was also featured in this program at the very end as he was interviewed by Elizabeth Vargas about the climate crisis. It was good to see snippets of the Hannity types and other FOX News Asses disputing that global warming even exists while the evidence to the contrary was being shown all around them to show what partisan shills they really are. It was also good to see other scientists being questioned about this along with Al Gore in this last segment and corroborating everything that is in An Inconvenient Truth.

And again, this is a REAL danger to our survival, not a plug to run for President! It is BECAUSE of the corrupted political system we have and that WE allow to continue that no one even bothered to listen to him and so many others for the last thirty years on this topic, and now look where we are. WHY should he once again enter this corrupted system only to come up against the same brick wall? This is a crisis we ALL must solve together, NOW. He can do so much more for our planet now with the DIRECT help from the people out here, and he, I, and so many others see that. And if you have seen pictures from around the world, even in our own country where glaciers in the West are melting at a much faster rate than anticipated perhaps you will see it too.

Climate change was listed as the number one way we would come to our last days on Earth, although it was said that we do have what we need to solve this crisis, well, because obviously, if we have the power to destroy we also have the power to build up... all we need is the WILL to do it. Although, as Elizabeth Vargas pointed out to Al Gore, even if this country were to pass groundbreaking legislation on that front while China surpasses all other countries in the world economically while continuing to open coal plants and spew Co2 into the air along with other developing countries, where's the balance?

How do your persuade China to go along when it would be in their best interests to not do so? Especially when they can come back with, "well, Kyoto wasn't important to the U.S. because you claimed it would harm your economy, and you have been spewing the most GG into the air for years without caring what it has done to the world... so why should we bow down to your wishes now, when our economic well being comes first?" Of course, you also can't pick anything up in this country without seeing, "Made in China" on it, so how would China actually coming on line with this seriously then effect our economy? I am really interested in how Mr. Gore thinks we would be able to persuade a country like China (a Communist country that doesn't even allow their citizens free speech) to see the benefits of this, when they can't even handle their own water supply competently!

Perhaps however, their government won't need to be persuaded if the current trends in their country of severe drought that is threatening their crops, stronger typhoons leaving millions homeless, pollution leaving 90% of their waterways polluted, severe desertification, and other disasters continue. They will have no choice but to seek ways of balancing this out, or they will see mass migration from their own country as people will simply have no way to sustain themselves otherwise.

There was also mention in this segment of the water crisis we also face and water wars due to drought and lack of fresh water which is inextricably linked to the climate crisis, and our moral obligation to solve this crisis, which I all I can say about that, is that IT'S ABOUT TIME it was mentioned on prime time television! They need to do an hour long special just on the global water crisis! Perhaps I will write to them and tell them that. But wow, from watching this you got such a sense that this crisis is so huge and that we have allowed it to go on for FAR too long... quite an indictment of the human race... and ignorance is no longer an option to use as an excuse for not getting up yourself and doing something abou tit. Now we MUST make amends. This is bigger than any political campaign. This is our lives.

http://water-is-life.blogspot.com
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:27 AM
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1. I don't know that we can solve anything
"This is a crisis we ALL must solve together, NOW."

The more we do, the worse things get. We create new problems. We want more food and medicine for everyone, that's great. But we end up with an artificially high number of people, who like to have more of everything. Now we have a couple billion people who want more of everything. We can make things more efficient, but that only allows more people to use more stuff. When gas was cheap, did people not continually use more of it?

We're not going to change a damn thing. Even if we wer able to get all people around the world into a middle class lifestyle, thus in theory decreasing our population numbers because women have more rights, we're going to use more resources because a middle class lifestyle doesn't only grow on trees.

One of two things will happen. We will continue our growth. The 2nd option is nature will stop it for us. Individually, you can scale things down. As for mass society? Not a chance. Not if we want a global village. We, as an entire species, aren't changing. We'll just find ways to keep doing what we're doing, only making it sound better. Who knows what it would be, but if we had a car that ran completely on water, I'm sure there would be some unintended consequence. There is always at least two sides to everything we do. ALL of US aren't going to SOLVE anything.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:16 AM
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4.  Perhaps it is just a delusion...
To actually think ALL people could pull together now to save this planet... especially if you think of it in "political" terms, because frankly, I think politics is a lost damn cause regarding the environment. And yes, I too know how human nature and the years of spoiled living most Americans have become accustomed to won't be easy to undo. However, I simply can't accept that it is a lost cause on the HUMAN and MORAL level that can lead to political change. Even though I do concede that it is one of if not the most serious challenges we have had to face, that doesn't mean we give up on it. What am I to tell my son who is only a teen? Sorry, kid, this world will end because noone wants to work to sustain it? I don't believe that, and I refuse to pass that negativity on to my son. *I* am out here working to make a difference on this issue and passing a message of hope to my child and inspiring him to also work for that change, and so are millions of others. If this world is to go by the hand of man, it is immoral to sit by and watch regardless of how you personally may feel about the chance of success in abating it.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:48 AM
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6. Well I'm not just sitting by
Like I said, on an individual level, you can scale down.

Where do you see the hope? For example, are we going to stop mass production? Are we going to put an end to industrial agriculture? Are we going to stop the engine of our economy, which is endless growth? If any answer to that begins with N, and ends with O, where's the hope for sustainability?

I don't know what you should tell your son. Tell him whatever you want to tell him. If he's willing to do with less so that he has a planet to live on, great. Most people aren't.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:10 AM
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8. I see the hope in our children
And you are wrong to assume that people will have to do with less to have a sustainable planet. The business community is coming around to the advantages of greener investments, and whether it is because of their consciences or because it will be thrust upon them, they WILL have to change. And I didn't ask you for suggestions about what to tell my son, I told you what I'm telling him because unlike those who continue to spread negativity instead of hope, some of us do see a brighter future because we have faith in the people we should be influencing the most...the next generation. To be hopeless is to be dead... I'm still here.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:33 AM
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2. In spite of the fact, the program was about our potential last days,
it left me feeling optimistic, partly because for the first time I can remember, they addressed on television, the disinformation campaign being waged against the scientific evidence of global warming, and the first step in changing bad or negative behavior is to recognize, you have a problem.

Of course, I also thought Al Gore was outstanding as usual.

K & R




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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:02 AM
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3. When will this air?
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:19 AM
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5. It aired last night...
I don't know if it will be repeated. If I locate it being replayed anywhere I will post it.
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:50 AM
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7. I applaud ABC for airing this...
Every little bit of the truth helps.

Now, if they'd just give that dumb-ass counter-enviro shill Stossel the boot, they would be doing us all a favor.

http://outside.away.com/outside/features/200505/counter-enviroment-power-list-13.html
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smomfr Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 07:38 PM
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9. There ´s a certain class of parasite ........
that always kills it´s host and not having another host handy it kills itself at the same time. Does anyone know the name of that class? It´s us. There´s another class that actualy benefits it´s host. Think we can change?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 07:40 PM
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10. After watching this, you realize terra is the least
of our problems...
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