AIR AMERICA IS YOUR FRIEND.

[Placebo]

Boycotting the network isn't going to help the progressive cause one damn bit.

We've got to look past Mike Malloy and this isolated incident!

That is the past, but the battle for the future of talk radio rages on!

[maddiejoan]

1. No.

AAR has drawn their line in the sand. I choose not to, sheeplike, stand for the silencing of a true patriot.

[MikeNearMcChord]

5. Besides there are others who are not on AAR

Bernie Ward, Ed Schultz, among others. Where Mike lands, I bet he will have a following.

[lonestarnot]

7. I will not stand for silencing him either!

[The Jacobin]

28. You have the attitude of a loser

There are plenty of losers in politics. Those are the people who scream IF I DIDN'T GET MY CANDIDATE IN THE PRIMARY I WON'T VOTE! Then the party candidate goes on to lose.


You are willing to kill off the largest, most visible presence in progressive radio just because they cut Mike? What the hell? Half a loaf is better than none. What are you gonna do now, listen to Savage just to spite AAR?

[maryallen]

58. Excuse me, but WHO are YOU to call someone a loser?

Mighty fast to sling those attacks ...

[The Jacobin]

60. Reading comprehension is a lost art.

First: "The attitude of a loser" != "loser"

Second: Why are you willing to kill off the most visible progressive media outlet just because of a lineup shakeup? This happens in radio all the time. To pout about it is again the attitude of a loser.

Mike will be replaced by another progressive. Breathe. Give it time. It will all be ok.

[Change has come]

71. Your picture of Rush Limpbaaaa...

Makes me feel my nose is being rubbed in something.

[MH1]

2. I agree.

I just wish I could get AAR around here, sigh.

[MamaBear]

3. Air America is Al Franken's friend and yours, if you are DLC.

Otherwise, corporate scum.

[itsrobert]

18. Randi Rhodes and Sam Sedar are DLC?

I don't think so.

[The Jacobin]

36. Don't worry about it.

There are lots of "more liberal than thou" types around here. If you don't agree with them 100% then you are a member of the DLC which might as well be a member of the Bush family.

[maddiejoan]

50. Yup.

Might as well.

Sorry. I no longer "settle"

[Placebo]

39. Oh come ON.

Can't we have one single thread without DLC being dragged into it?

[Individualist]

47. Looks like you hit a nerve, MamaBear

:)

[KittyWampus]

64. hit a nerve? more like dropped a stinking load of nonsense.

It's like there's a form of Turette's Syndrome on DU involving the letter "DLC".

[patrice]

4. Thank you Placebo. I rely on AAR.

There are things about it that I don't like, but it's better than mainstream radio, and NPR has gone to the dark side.

No one person is more important than our shared goals.

[Placebo]

43. Exactly!

I rely on them as well. I love their variety of programming and listen to them every day. And they are basically the only dependable large progressive voice out there in talk radio and the more we support them, the more their word will filter down all across the country.

[Horse with no Name]

6. Yeah. You are right!

All we have to do is play nicey-nice with the center and they will assure us a place at the table once we are back in power again!:sarcasm:
:puke:
I'm done playing nice. I'm done compromising my voice.
If AAR wants Republi-lite...let them have it.
However, I don't have to support it.

[rainy]

8. When they came for me there was no one left to stand up for me.

[itsrobert]

9. Yup

They still have Sam Sedar, Thom Hartman, and Randi Rhodes. That's enought to keep me satsified every day.

[emcguffie]

20. Gee, what will you do when they axe Thom?

And then Randi? When will you object?

[itsrobert]

24. Randi is their BREAD WINNER!

They would be nuts to dump her. Her ratings rock.

[patrice]

21. I hope they keep Rhodes.

I find her a little hard to take sometimes (it's just a manners issue, not substance). They need one edgey something.

Franken's heart is in the right place, but he's the one I'd get rid of.

[Placebo]

46. Rachel Maddow is good too.

:)

[B Calm]

10. When AAR fails point your finger at their stupid decision to silence

the Jimmy Hendrex of talk, Mike Malloy.

[PoiBoy]

27. The Jimi Hendrix of talk radio.. Mike Malloy.

I like that...! very appropriate description..!

:hi:

[The Jacobin]

40. What?

Its about money. Get it? Money.

If they can't sell ads for Mike, then he has to go. It is because Mike stinks? No way. They just didn't know how to sell him.

When Mike goes, they'll find a replacement. In six months no one will remember the difference. Or maybe individual stations will pick him up and AAR will struggle in that time slot. Nevertheless the 9 to midnight slot doesn't make or break a station.

[geomon666]

59. So what's your problem?

If losing Mike doesn't hurt the station, then neither does losing Mike's listeners. The whole argument to Truthseekers to keep standing by AAR even though they didn't stand by our man doesn't hold much water any more does it.

[The Jacobin]

62. Because Mike's fans listen to other AAR shows too.

Haven't you been reading all the posts swearing off AAR forever? It's silly to hurt other shows because you're sore about losing one.

[geomon666]

72. Why is it silly? Happens all the time.

I'm a Malloy fan and I didn't really listen to other AAR shows and I sure as hell won't now.

[LSK]

11. everyone is kneejerking right now

They will calm down in a few days. Dont take people venting emotionally as their true actions.

[B Calm]

19. I'll be damn if I'll calm down!

[gumby]

12. What maddiejoan said.

War is not peace.

[patrice]

13. Why don't they hire Tom Hartman?

or Christy Harvey?

They're probably not available, maybe.

[itsrobert]

30. They do have Thom Hartman

He's in their syndication stable. I think he's being groomed to take over for Al when he gives it up.

[NYCGirl]

37. I believe you're thinking of Tom Oliphant, the guy who filled in for Al

today with Christy Harvey? Thom Hartmann is someone else altogether.

[patrice]

41. No, I listened to both.

And liked both.

Is is possible that T. Oliphant might get a regular show? On Edit: That would be real nice!

Would HATE to have to choose between the two, but if TH is already out there, with a regular show, it would be good to increase the voices of that type by giving TO a regular slot.

[NYCGirl]

56. Oliphant is primarily a writer, and he's just recovered from surgery for

a brain aneurysm not long ago. I'd guess he wouldn't want the strain of doing a 3 hour daily program (with many hours of writing and research) right now.

He is a regular guest with Al, though.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

14. But Of Course. But Understand, Many Of Them Are Quite Hurt Right Now.

It is understandable that they need some time to vent their anger and frustration and even say some things that are quite overdramatic or silly. But we've all had our times when we are utterly disappointed and angry and it is appropriate for them to take some time to vent. I think most of them will continue to listen to AAR just fine, after a little bit of a healing period. They just need a little time to get it out of their system.

And yes, AAR is our friend, and boycotting them to me is silly. :)

[B Calm]

22. uhhhh sure, whatever!!! There's no else I want to listen to!

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

33. Ummmm, Ok Then. ROFLMAO!!!!!!

:rofl:

[Placebo]

48. Yes, venting is understandable.

But this can't be allowed to snowball into permanent rage.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

51. Well, It Isn't Up To Us To Allow Or Disallow Their Actions Or Feelings,

but I'd agree completely that it would be silly if it did.

[tnlefty]

55. So I had to buy 2 satellite radio units, plus the house units, plus the

car units, and one of the reasons that I did so was so that I could listen to Mike Malloy. I pay the XM subscriber rates for the year so that I can have access to Malloy, and a few others that I enjoy listening to, but I did want to listen to Mike Malloy.

For me it won't be a matter of boycotting anyone, but it just might be a matter of cancelling the subscription, trashing or trying to resell all of the satellite units plus accessories.

BTW, do you need some nice equipment to listen to AAR in your home, your car? I have 2 units with both, but you'll have to pay the subscriptions.

[emcguffie]

15. They haven't been my friend for almost a year.

I used to listen to nothing but AAR, out of loyalty, even though I couldn't abide certain shows. Then they axed Marc Maron (is it Marron?), and I turned them off.

Why should I be loyal to a station that is utterly disloyal to its listeners?

Randi is okay, but from time to time she is just too obnoxious for me. Springer is almost unbearable. What's his name -- you know, that other comedian? Franken. He is unbearable.

This makes me want to put on my tinfoil hat, it does, it does.

[The Jacobin]

49. You listened to shows you hate?

Why? Do you think you are a martyr for a cause?

You would help AAR much more by listening and supporting shows you like and ignoring shows you don't. The ratings will tell them which shows to keep and which to axe.

[Swamp Rat]

16. I will listen to Peter Werbe in anticipation of an explanation.

If there isn't a reasonable explanation, I will write all of their sponsors to tell them I will no longer buy their products until Mike Malloy is re-hired.

[LTR]

31. Bad idea

Do you want to drive AAR out of business?

Doesn't sound very productive to me.

Sure, AAR has flaws (lots of 'em), but at least they're there.

[Swamp Rat]

44. No, it is a damn GREAT idea!

I listen to AAR in order to listen to Mike Malloy. My other favorite DJs are on different networks.

Yes, if they fired Mike Malloy without a good reason, I will spend my waking hours trying to drive AAR out of business. You decide what is productive for you, and I decide what is productive for me.

"Clear Channel has lots of flaws, but at least they're always there." - I am paraphrasing a right wing wacko I know to show a parallel to your comment.

[EFerrari]

63. "at least they're always there"

:rofl:

[MikeNearMcChord]

17. As long as Thom Hartmann is still there

I will listen. He is my favorite, but if he gets sh**canned, then it is The Jungle with Jim Rome.

[maddiejoan]

26. I'll listen to Thom on radiopower.org

and make a donation to Shelby this week.

AAR can kiss my liberal ass.

[patrice]

35. Thanks for the Hartmann tip.

I'm a cubicle rat. I need something decent to listen to.

[Swamp Rat]

45. Me too. n/t

[patrice]

32. Does he actually have his own show?

I thought he was just a sub. I like him very much.

My basic criteria is Information. I WANT Information. I don't care who gives it to me, and I'll even put up with some things I don't particularly care for as long as there is lots of Information.

[maddiejoan]

52. radiopower.org

Thom has his own show that he syndicates.

You can pick it up on radiopower.org from Noon to 3pm EST

Heck it's on itunes for free in the "spoken word" section of the radio.

I even bought my ipod from smalldogs electronics just to show support to one of his sponsors.

But do make a donation to Shelby LePre --she pays for the administration and bandwidth costs to stream it on the internet.

[patrice]

54. Thanks, I just sent it to myself at work. n/t

[WillyT]

23. Thanks Mr. Rogers, But I Dissent !!!

Yeah... let's take off all the rough edges, and go Satellite Sisters 24\7.

OK, maybe that's unfair. We'll of course, have to keep Springer for a slot or two.

:puke::puke::puke:

NO THANK YOU!

[never_get_over_it]

25. AAR might be your friend

but with this schedule change the only thing left for me is Sam Sedar - and if he is on from 6:00 AM to 9:00 AM there will be nothing left because that will not fit in to my schedule - there are other alternatives that I will listen to....

[EFerrari]

29. No. Wrong. Management gets to hear what I think.

No one gets my mindless support, thanks.

[B Calm]

34. I second that! In the mean time I'll boycott them!

[princehal]

42. Count me in

Finished. AAR is NOT my friend. They cut the only show I liked. So, why should I listen?

[MaryRN]

79. Add me in too.

[TheWatcher]

38. AAR= AIR APPEASEMENT RADIO

They can coddle, roll over, whimper, cow, and appease all they want.

I am DONE compromising.

They lost me today.

[peacemon]

77. Here..Here, I'll second that

AAR is done,

Malloy is the canary in the coal mine.

[Cleita]

53. If they have been infiltrated by the White House Morlocks

whose sole intent is to undermine what is a threat to them, then it's not our friend.

[Tyo]

57. AA is like the Democrats

It's more concerned that it might offend someone than it is about taking a stand and getting the truth out. But I'll keep listening and trying to support their advertisers (except all the snake oil hawkers) because as is the case with the Democrats, there isn't really an alternative.

[mitchtv]

61. Kinda reminds me of the Paul Hackett affair

The MOR is making their move for the election.
I will start looking to Brenie Ward on KGO-AM 810 10p-1a pst, for left ideas, If I want rant crazy like Molloy I stay tuned for Raytal from 1a til 5a
both on the net with archives.
broadcast to the entire west coast

http://www.kgoam810.com/complexshowdj.asp?DJID=3450

[Swamp Rat]

65. Yep!

Geaux Bernie Ward and Ray Taliaferro!!!

:kick:

[Protagoras]

66. Keep our powder dry for when we need to block something like

a supreme court nominee?

[MzNov]

67. Do not look past Malloy or anyone else on AAR. Fight for him

he's not the past, he's the present.

He'll be back somewhere else. another program, another radio station.

His voice is much too important for the Left, he's a voice of truth that should not and will not be silenced.

:mad:

[EFerrari]

70. "Do not look past Mike Malloy or anyone else on AAR. Fight for him."

You bet!

:mad:

[Beelzebud]

68. Malloy's was the only show I listened to on AAR...

For me it isn't so much a boycott, just that since Malloy isn't on their network, I won't be listening.

[LaPera]

69. Not a chance tonight, not for a long while....

[Kurovski]

73. Agreed.

I'm in total agreement, and I'm totally pissed at the suits at AAR.

Not at any of the others, Randi Rhodes, etc, nor at the mission of AAR as it still stands.

[peacemon]

74. Almost...

I'd buy that crap that they need to sacrifice the few for the greater good crap if they actually gave a shit about their product.

Unfortunatly I see first hand how they just roll over and let the local affiliates carve up their schedule, & shit all over their brand. They either don't care, or they are too incompetent to know. For example, here in Dallas - the 4th , maybe 5th largest radio market in the country they run on this piece of crap Border Media Partners station. These idiots @ KXEB can't even figure out how to not run too many PSAs during the commercial breaks and are constantly over-running the breaks and chopping off the begining of the shows segments.

Not to mention they ran promos that linked Ed Shultz with AAR for 2 weeks, or when they replay Randi's show 3 hours later, the media player starts to skip and you get all kinds of digital distortion, maybe it fixes itself during the extra long 6 min PSA break, or maybe not.

You know, I can rail all day on the local affiliates, but the main point is that AAR is so apathetic about how they are represented, even here in a large ..LARGE Radio market, and contrary to popular belief...Dallas,Austin,and SanAntonio are the liberal islands in the Sea of Red Texas.

Maybe if they cared a little, and found a way to represent their product they could afford to be out on a limb with a show like Malloy's.

[Der Blaue Engel]

75. Sadly, I think they may have jumped the shark

They haven't been acting like our friend lately, and Malloy is only the latest sign. :(

[bbgrunt]

76. your name says it all, placebo

[MaryRN]

78. Ok...you fight for the future...I'll fight for Mike and the truth. n/t

[KharmaTrain]

80. Radio's In Real Trouble...AAR is Just Part Of The Problem

I've spelled this out in endless posts, so not gonna waste time on this one...but AAR's problems is they've hit a wall. The network hasn't grown much in the past year, the expenses rise while revenues are either flat or shrinking. There's precious little money to promote (AAR does a terrible job in promoting their stations) and most operations are fringe signals or ones that are poorly maintained. Right now it looks like AAR is treading water...and the future doesn't look much better.

Investors were hoping for some big payoffs by now...on larger stations covering more people and thus able to make more money. It's not happening. This was supposed to be the network's superbowl...millions of possible pissed off Democrats and "libruls" who would surely flock to the AAR stations and advertisers. It's not happening. Many of the original AAR investors are either gone and their money long spent...and the debt service and expenses continue to mount. It ain't easy running a network...especially when you don't have dozens of subsidiaries or other sources of income/revenue that can really help an operation like AAR grow and propser.

While I'm sad to hear Mike Malloy is gone (this is the third time I've lost him...I used to listen to him on WLS in Chicago), lately I've found AAR to sound stale and predictable. I'm looking for information rather than opinion and the strident nature of some AAR shows are tough to stomache when one wants to hear straight up news.

Hopefully, Clear Channel...who is all but keeping AAR afloat...will continue to support the network so that it is available. I still hold some hope that some of these stations will develop local programs that reach out and connect in a way a network show can't do. Mike's a survivor...he'll be heard from again.

[REP]

81. How Commercial Radio Works

If a show has a small audience, no matter how devoted that audience is, it will be hard to sell ads in that slot. If no ad time is sold, there is no revenue. If there is no revenue, then there will eventually be no show. It may be possible that despite the passion of his fans here or what awards he may have won, his audience was too small to sustain his show on that network.

Really - if his Arbitron was good and his show attracted big accounts, he could have been telling people to line collandars with tinfoil and to sit on the roof and await instructions and his show would've remained on air.