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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 01:46 PM
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Hartmann announced at 2:35pm he is filling in for Randi today
Kathy posted at 2:29.

WTF?
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 01:49 PM
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1. Mike Malloy was fired by AAR today.
That's why.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 01:54 PM
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2. Why was Malloy fired?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 01:55 PM
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3. Because he must have gotten under the skin of some
very powerful people, IMHO.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 02:02 PM
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5. Malloy was one of my favorites. AAR F***ed up.
Bad move on the part of Air America. I certainly hope that this isn't a move towards a more DLC friendly AAR. If so, this experiment in left of center radio is over.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 01:58 PM
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4. Oh, good, I like him much better than Malloy
Just read the rest of the thread -- Malloy was fired???? I just had a conversation yesterday about how much I disliked him. Did somebody hear me? I didn't know my opinion mattered so much.

:rofl:
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 02:05 PM
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6. Somebody losing their job in this economy is funny to you?
And to gloat, on top of it? Sad.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:13 PM
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12. Oh fucking please. Like Malloy is going to be using food stamps
He's an AM radio gasbag. I am sure he will get another show, its not like this is the first time he got fired.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:17 PM
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13. Thank you.
I wasn't celebrating his being fired -- it happens all the time in radio. Get over it. He's just too extreme for my taste -- and I don't mind extreme up to a point (I love Randi and others). I also think he's anti-Semitic.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:36 PM
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26. He's NOT anti-semitic
He explains over and over and over again that he's NOT.

Anti-Israel does not equal anti-semite.

Don't fall into that semantic trap.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:20 PM
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16. Never implied that he would need to.
I just can't imagine losing a job, especially with a two-year old daughter and a family to support. And if you were responding to my original post, you think it's OK to laugh when someone loses a job, regardless if you like them or not?
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:22 PM
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18. See my other post.
I wasn't laughing because he got fired.

And there isn't a person in radio who hasn't been fired at one time or another for a variety of reasons, most often ratings, finances or some other business reason.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:52 PM
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32. I think the other poster was laughing at the tempest in the teapot angle
"you think it's OK to laugh when someone loses a job, regardless if you like them or not?"

I think its ridiculous to pretend job loss for a media star is the same as one of us losing their job.

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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:55 PM
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33. Exactly!
Thank you for a sane post. It happens all the time and they usually wind up on their feet at another job pretty quickly.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:31 PM
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23. Nice callous answer.
And what contribution of merit have you made of late?

Mike spoke true Truth To Power.

Which is something you obviously can't handle.

Don't worry though. You'll probably still have Springer to hold your hand through the graveyard. Remember to whistle while you work :eyes:
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 04:00 PM
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34. LOL
"And what contribution of merit have you made of late?"

I was out talking up Francine Busby this weekend. I got a friend to finally register to vote. What have you done besides scream about a radio host?

"Mike spoke true Truth To Power.

Which is something you obviously can't handle."

Ohh this is too hilarious. The tin foil brigade is in full meltdown.

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choie Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:05 PM
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8. it doesn't.
eom
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:09 PM
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:18 PM
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14. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I was voicing mine
Too bad when someone disagrees with you you find it necessary to react this way.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:25 PM
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20. Sorry not buying that crap either.
Edited on Wed Aug-30-06 03:27 PM by TheWatcher
You weren't just "voicing your opinion."

It was very thinly veiled glee that someone who you don't like lost his show.

You were basking in the glow of someone Else's misfortune. That isn't expressing your opinion, that is classless behavior.

As for your "opinion", you are welcome to it I suppose but it is very misguided. AAR just lost it's heart and soul today. And while I suppose it's a great comfort for someone like you who just couldn't handle Mike's approach (Cry me a river), you should understand Mike was on the forefront of speaking Truth To Power and would be willing to fight and take it all the way for people like us and the causes and principles we believe in long after people like Franken would sell you out and tow the line of go along to get along.

Mike was the real deal. And when we lose all of the people who are, who are ON OUR SIDE, you will be left with those will kick you out of a lifeboat faster than you can say DLC.

Mike had the courage to say what needed to be said.

It matters not if you couldn't handle it.

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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:11 PM
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10. Glad you find someone's firing so amusing...
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:20 PM
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15. It wasn't his firing I found amusing
It was the fact that I had just had the conversation yesterday and today he got fired. You don't think I really believe that that's why he got fired, do you?
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:29 PM
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21. Nice side-step. But it won't work.
Of course you don't believe that. But you were expressing your glee about it.

Like I said, let us know when you get fired. We'll have a party in the honor of your misery.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 04:10 PM
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36. Please let me know if you should lose your job
So I can give a sanctimonious speech about how it is wrong to be gleeful in such situations and then proceed to do exactly that.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 05:41 PM
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37. I think that opinion should have been kept private.
Dancing on someone's grave is never cool.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:23 PM
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19. What you don't understand is there are a lot of people who like
Mike. I like Thom Hartmann too - but many of us followed Mike LONG before AAR - and at that time he was one of very FEW progressive voices and have gotten many of us through these very hard times when we thought we were all alone in this lunatic world of this criminal administration. Many people have stated that Mike has saved their sanity and I would have to agree with them. Mike is a bit over the top but we need all kinds of voices to be heard to appeal to many of us.

I remember when the posts here when Mike started on AAR - many folks here were unfamiliar with him and many of us were - it was interesting the different post on love him or hate him - well for those of us who love him this is a bad day.

I personally don't listen to Springer, Franken or Randi. Franken is too moderate for me - although he does have great guests - but actually I have listened to his program this week because he was on vacation - when he comes back I won't be listening. I love Randi's politics but she is to fond of herself and it gets on my nerves - although I do listen to her now and then. Before Jeannene left I would only listen to Majority Report when she was gone - but now that she is gone I listen regularly - I love Sam. I listened to Mike regularly and he will be sorely missed

I think AAR has acted like a bunch of jack asses the past few weeks - finalizing this line up - for weeks we have waited to hear about Sam - and were told that Mike signed a new two year contract - now this - AAR has handled this reshuffling VERY BADLY and this is just the icing on the cake. If Mike is really gone the only AAR I'll be listening to is Sam Sedar.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:30 PM
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22. I do understand that a lot of people like him.
And that's fine. I just don't happen to. That's my opinion and I'm not criticizing others for liking him. I'm sorry if anyone took my comments that way. You don't like Randi -- I do. So what? Everyone has different tastes. I don't like Springer either. I stream Stephanie Miller at work instead of listening to him.

I agree with a lot of what Mike has to say, but I guess he went over the top for me during the war in Lebanon and I sensed a bit of anti-semitism. I just don't like his delivery. It's not so much what he says, but how he says it. I never listen to the radio at night, so I never hear his show. I've mostly heard him when he's subbed for Randi.

You and I may disagree, but at least you're civil in your comments and I appreciate that. Civil discussion and disagreement is fine -- I just don't like the tone some people have taken in this thread.

I'm sorry if anyone thought I was laughing because someone got fired. I was only laughing because of the irony of the timing versus my conversation yesterday. I do apologize for that.

Does anyone know who will be replacing Rachel in the morning when she moves to evenings? I doubt we'll get her at all then, because we get Randi taped from 6-10. Or, maybe they'll run a taped Rachel show even later in the evening. Maybe she's taking over Mike's slot here.

Radio stations go through reshuffling like this all the time. I'd wait to see how it all pans out before I went too crazy.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:34 PM
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25. If you like Randi, today should be a wake up call for you.
Edited on Wed Aug-30-06 03:34 PM by TheWatcher
If you think the same can't happen to her, you are kidding yourself.

Randi, like Mike, speaks too much Truth To Power. That makes her very dangerous to the Powers That Be.

Think about it.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:37 PM
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27. Thank you for clearing that up.
And I apologize if I over-reacted in any way. I felt that you were gloating, and if you weren't than I'm sorry, as well.

We like most of the same broadcasters, I guess we part ways when it comes to Mike. I don't like the anti-Semite accusation and have heard him have to constantly refute that allegation. I've never heard him say anything disparaging against Jewish persons, just governmental policies that he disagreed with that caused hundreds of innocent people to die. Did you hear his week long interview with (the guy whose name I can't remember) that survived to Holocaust? The guy was about to release his autobiography and mike had him on for a week to talk about it.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:45 PM
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31. Thanks for the apology. I really appreciate it.
I really wasn't gloating at all. I'm sorry other posters here don't believe me and continue to attack me personally. There should be room for everyone here and fighting with each other doesn't help us at all.

I don't listen to the radio at night, so I didn't hear that interview.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:39 PM
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28. Only fucking moderates....
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:44 PM
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30. I actually do like Randi
she is very smart and I agree with her almost 100% except I'm way harder on the whimppy Dems than she is - what I don't like about her is that she is pretty fond of herself which gets on my nerves so I can't listen to her every day - but she is right on politically - I think politically Mike, Randi and Sam are the closest aligned on AAR and I have to wonder what today's decision means for bot Randi and Sam....although if I understand the beginning of AAR - Randi was pretty involved in that - which might help her in the long run.

And I don't believe for one minute Mike is anti-semetic....
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 02:27 PM
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7. I think I know why too ...
It had nothing to do with finances IMO.

The TRUTH hurts sometimes doesn't it AirAmerica and YOU AirAmerica know it. WHO owns AirAmerica Radio? :grr:

:kick:
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:12 PM
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11. You should be happy AAR has been ALLOWED to exist as long as it has
I knew people like Mike would be toast when his audience got too big for the comfort of those who want people like him silenced.

Randi won't be too far behind IMHO.

This is a very sad day.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:32 PM
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24. "when his audience got too big"
What are you basing this on? DU threads were dittoheads....err....truthseekers post about their love of the man?

This article which is very critical of WLIB for dorpping him says it was ratings

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2006/02/talk_radio_redu.html

"The official Air America excuse is that ABC gave them an offer ($$$) they couldn’t refuse to steal the last couple hours of programming on Air America’s flagship station. The unstated reason is that Malloy’s show wasn’t pulling in Arbitron numbers. But they never promoted his show in New York either."
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:44 PM
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29. SO a rumor off a blog is now taken as fact.
Edited on Wed Aug-30-06 03:54 PM by TheWatcher
Do you know what the Arbitron numbers were? Do you have a link?

When Mike was fired in Chicago, he was number 1, and even during the days on the small network he was on before AAR he had a very large following.

If you think that Malloy's audience was confined to those of on DU, you are as ingorant as you are callous. You don't like the guy. That's fine.

To be fair, we don't know the real reason he got fired. I doubt we ever will.

And if his ratings were SO bad, why did he just sign a new 2 YEAR CONTRACT with the netork? That seems to be a fact that those who are so joyous over this matter seem to conveniently dismiss.

He signs a 2 year contact, we has going BACK on the air in New York, and now he is fired without warning?

Yeah, it's his ratings :eyes:

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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 04:06 PM
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35. I should pass but I can't resist
That was the only source I found citing Malloy's numbers that was relatively current. Considering how big a fan the writer seemed to be I didn't think the sourcing was too bad.

"And if his ratings were SO bad, why did he just sign a new 2 YEAR CONTRACT with the netork?"

And yet they fired him. And yet he was off WLIB their flagship station.

"That seems to be a fact that those who are so joyous over this matter seem to conveniently dismiss."

Its not about joy. Its about the apocalyptic truthseekers who have lost their minds attacking anyone and everyone who dares to speak ill of Saint Mike.

I'm sorry your fav radio host lost his job. It is not the end of the world.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 03:22 PM
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17. Don't be sad. Call AAR special line for calling about Mike:
212- 871-8290

:kick:
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