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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 11:16 AM
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Fascism...the new buzzword among Republicans.
Edited on Wed Aug-30-06 11:18 AM by tallahasseedem
Yeah...sure...whatever.

http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/fascism-new-buzz-word-among-republicans/20060830074709990001?cid=2194

~snip~

WASHINGTON (Aug. 30) - President Bush in recent days has recast the global war on terror into a "war against Islamic fascism." Fascism, in fact, seems to be the new buzz word for Republicans in an election season dominated by an unpopular war in Iraq.

Bush used the term earlier this month in talking about the arrest of suspected terrorists in Britain, and spoke of "Islamic fascists" in a later speech in Green Bay, Wis. Spokesman Tony Snow has used variations on the phrase at White House press briefings

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 11:18 AM
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1. They should know what fascism looks like
They practice it right here in the good ole' USA
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 11:19 AM
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2. PROJECTING!
They're thinking just like they always do..."If we just say we hate it and accuse others of doing it, no one will realize we're really talking about ourselves!"

Swaggart tried it with hookers. Didn't work out well for him, either.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 11:30 AM
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8. The wolf cries 'Wolf!' - the GOP disinformation strategy.
From the furor about Presidential "lies" to the furor over "wag the dog," absolutely every hue and cry raised by the reich-wing over the past 20 years has been a harbinger of their own corruption.

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 12:05 PM
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12. And the way to dismantle an argument--steal it
Doesn't have to matter if their claim on the word makes sense or not--just jump on it before it "grows legs" with the opposition.
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WHAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 05:58 PM
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23. This would make good advertising...
(dem ads) GOP, CM, clips, close-ups, lips..."fascism", another and another, maybe with an elephant mouthing it, interspersed with examples, a question on the end.

I know this wasn't what you meant, but it's what I "saw". steal it...back.

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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 11:20 AM
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3. And Rummie used it yesterday in reference to us -
the American people who are criticizing their stupid-ass war; which happens to be the majority.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 11:21 AM
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4. And free speech
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Debau2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 11:23 AM
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5. If this is the wikipedia definition
then how does it reference us?

"Fascism is a radical totalitarian political philosophy that combines elements of corporatism, authoritarianism, extreme nationalism, militarism, anti-anarchism, anti-communism and anti-liberalism."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facism

I hate stupid people! Before calling people names perhaps they should look up the name to see what it means....:shrug:
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 11:26 AM
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6. They don't care what it means -
they constantly use words to fit their own definitions, with the knowledge that people are too stupid to know any better. Before long, we'll see Bushco supporters carrying signs calling liberals fascists. :eyes:
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Debau2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 11:30 AM
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7. I have to go home to South Bama
to my freeper aunt and family in a few weeks. I had already assumed she would throw this up, so I am going prepared with the definition and few questions for her related to what fascist is! That will shut her up.
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 11:34 AM
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9. I guess they figure Americans are stupid
because the definition you gave is the definition of the current administration!
I guess they figure if they say it first, they wont be labeled as the fascist government we are becoming.

I have added a new page to my website that defines conservatism, I think I am going to add some more to it after reading this!!!!:dem:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 01:58 PM
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16. And the day before some DUers were calling Muslims fascists here
But that was OK.

Don
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 11:55 AM
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10. They cruise places like DU and steal 'our' words
The dumb fucks probably don't even know that Fascism means government of the corporations, by the corporations and for the corporations, which is exactly what President cheney has promoted for the last six years. America is fast becoming a Fascist State thanks to President cheney and Queen george. And. yes, I mean, President cheney. It's those tweakers like Limpwienie Viagra Oxycontin dweeb that start phrases like Islamofascists. Cuz they read DU and steal our words and try to turn them back on us.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 12:02 PM
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11. What they all seem to forget is that
Edited on Wed Aug-30-06 12:04 PM by Blue_In_AK
WE are the Nazis. The US is the invader here. We had no more right to invade Iraq than Germany had to invade Poland. If anybody's an appeaser, it's Great Britain.
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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 12:32 PM
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13. In Some Ways, What they criticize, is What they have Become!
Edited on Wed Aug-30-06 12:51 PM by DianaForRussFeingold
With a fascist, the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist regime more money or more power.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 12:36 PM
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14. They really like ominous sounding labels and then they
Edited on Wed Aug-30-06 01:02 PM by Cleita
apply them wherever they want whether the label fits or not, and the lemmings follow right along repeating the labels over and over with little context if any. This is why Hitler had no problem using the socialist workers label for his Nazi Party, which had nothing to do with socialism and little to do with workers other than the slaves in his labor camps.

How soon will it be when they start calling us lemmings?
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 01:52 PM
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15. Maybe not lemmings...
however I do see "fascist sympathizers" on the horizon.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 02:00 PM
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17. Rove is trying to disempower the term because they're fascists

People are catching on to the merging of corporate and government power at the center of the Bush Administration and how much it's just like Mussolini's definition of fascism. So Rove is sending out the order to disempower the word by attaching it to Islam (or more loosely on the War on Terror).

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 02:06 PM
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18. "the rightness of the fascist cause."
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/10/19/145557/54

Keyser Soze aka Michael Ledeen.

Michael Ledeen was one of the founders of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA). He holds the Freedom Chair at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), a think tank for AIPAC. He is co-founder of the Coalition for Democracy in Iran. As far back as 1980, the CIA allegedly listed Ledeen as an agent of influence of Israel. Ledeen is the main foreign policy advisor to Karl Rove. Ledeens main obsession seems to be to overthrow Iran.

In 1972 he published the book Universal Fascism, in which he expounds upon "the rightness of the fascist cause." In Universal Fascism, Ledeen first builds his case that fascism was the "20th Century Revolution" and that "people yearn for the real thing - revolution". It's the blueprint for a fascist revolution.

In 1980 he collaborated with Francesco Pazienza of SISMI and P-2 in the "BillyGate" affair. This is the same Pazienze who was recently found out to belong to the parallel intelligence agency in Italy. In 1985 Pazienza was found guilty of political manipulation, forgery, and the protection of terrorists. Ledeen is identified in court documents as an agent of SISMI.

The Pentagon downgraded Ledeen's security clearances from Top Secret-SCI to Secret in the mid-1980s, after the FBI began a probe of Ledeen for passing classified materials to a foreign
country, believed to be Israel.
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 02:31 PM
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19. It's progressive's fault
despite the right's continuous and extraordinarily dishonest use of 'communist' to label the left, and despite the truth and historical accuracy of 'fascism' describing the mindless, self-righteous, race-baiting authoritarianism of the right wing, Democrats refuse to summon the courage to use the word 'fascism'. So it's left open for the nutcase right to paint others with their own historical depravity. What do you expect from people who try to claim that the Nazi party was liberal and not the penultimate right-wing structure because Hitler's propaganda was to call his anti-left hatred 'national socialism'?

It's simple: they say 'socialist' you say 'fascist'; they say 'communist' you say 'nazi'.
Every time.

Imagine in your head if you had heard, in your lifetime, some conjugation of the word 'fascism' against right-wingers just as often as you've heard some conjugation of the word 'communism' used against left-wingers. It's probably not that by about ten-thousand to one. That's a measure of how far behind we are and how much we have to do.

I never miss the opportunity to point out that fascism and nazism are right-wingers at their unfettered best, and this latest projection gambit by the right to try to use the term to paint fascism away from themselves and onto terrorists, provides just the opportunity to do so.

Use the f-word whenever they say commie, and especially whenever they try to use it themselves.

Think of it as a good deed.
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Ino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 02:36 PM
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20. They're "owning" the word now.
DU has been discussing for ages how the Bush regime parallels fascism. John Dean has been on TV talking about his new book "Conservatives without Conscience" saying (paraphrasing), "We don't have fascism yet, but it's close."

It's so obvious that BushCo has grabbed on to that word before it becomes popularly associated with itself, and is accusing everyone else of it. These f*ckers don't miss a trick.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 02:37 PM
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21. "Na, na, na, na, na! Takes one to know one!!"
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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 04:42 PM
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22. Just what I was thinking!
Edited on Wed Aug-30-06 04:58 PM by DianaForRussFeingold
:rofl: 14 Points of fascism http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 10:00 PM
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24. kick
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