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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:25 PM
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IMPEACH!!!
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:26 PM
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1. I second the motion. n/t
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:26 PM
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2. Don't forget 3,000 dead in NY, DC and PA
I'd put that first on the sign.

:thumbsup:
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:27 PM
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4. LOL
So much for 'Never Forget'.

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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:27 PM
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5. Naaa
The percentage of the population that believes Bush is responsible for those deaths is very, very low. Best to stick with what the majority already believes...
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:29 PM
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6. I don't mean he *caused* them, I mean they happened on his watch.
I'm not a MIHOP'er.
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teriyaki jones Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:44 PM
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8. Not necessarily…
Check out this other thread from today:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2003251

titled, "SURVEY SHOCKER: ONE IN 3 AMERICANS SAY U.S. AIDED 9/11"
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 07:02 PM
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:26 PM
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3. Darn
Wish I could read what's on her shirt. I bet it was good.

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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:33 PM
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7. MSM keeps saying "1700" NOLA fatalities....
I'll bet the other 136 dead people would like to have a word with them... except they're dead.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:17 PM
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9. A towering reminder
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:18 PM
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10. I saw that this morning
It was on the front page of the Union Tribune in San Diego.

Nothing the Bush admin says can make this better...
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:21 PM
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11. ...
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:25 PM
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12. Get that impeachment hammer and hammer away!
:)
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:44 PM
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13. I heard on the weekend news shows
that there is really only one thing that will motivate Republicans to get out and vote. That is that if the Democrats get vocal about the reason they want to win back the House is to enable them to impeach Bush. Why do anything to motivate Republicans to get out and vote? If Democrats don't win back the House in November it will be a moot point anyways. I know it makes everybody feel a little less powerless to continually cry for Bush's impeachment no matter how much he deserves it. Also, impeachment does not mean Bush is out of a job unless the Senate convicts. So unless the Democrats retake the House in November, there will be no impeachment. I know that, you know that, and they know that. Reality is a stark mistress.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 07:06 PM
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16. Do you really think the "weekend shows" are the reality?!?
The only reason the subject even came up is that DC/Euphemedia Analstocracy is getting nervous.

There may even be talk of a "Pres. Hastert now" being preferable to a "Pres. Pelosi (or worse) later."

And BTW, feeling "a little less powerless" wins elections.

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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 08:28 PM
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20. If it makes you feel better, keep crying, "Impeach!"
Unfortunately, since the Democrats do not control the House, there is nothing you can do about it at this time. If I had a nickel for every uncashable impeach checks out there I would be rich. The weekend shows may not be reality, but neither are the constant calls for impeachment that have no power or possibility behind them at this time. I am sure that crying "Impeach!" gets the Democratic base pumped up, but it also motivates the Republicans. At best it does not appear to be the most effective tool in the belt to defeat the Republicans in November and win back the House and Senate. Democrats have more than enough issues on their side to motivate their base to take back Congress without doing something that unnecessarily fires up the Republican base or unnecessarily alienates some independents.

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/08/memo_what_motiv_2.html
"Memo: What Motivates The Republican Base

What high-octane fuels will best rev up the Republican base in November?

That mechanical question was on the minds of Republican strategists gathered in at the party's summer meeting in Minneapolis last week. At a closed door session with state party chairs and consultants, senior Republican officials offered some tentative answers based on a survey of the "Base" -- capital B -- conducted by GOP pollster Fred Steeper."
-----snip-----
"One final point from Steeper:

Sixty percent (60%) of the Base has extremely negative feelings about the Democrat’s impeachment threats – placing it among the strongest in the survey."


http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/02/14/impeach_yes_but.php
"...With all the stars aligned for victory in November, Democratic leaders in Washington do not want the inexorably nasty politics of impeachment distracting the nation, mobilizing the Republican base and possibly driving away Independent voters at the last minute. They remember the terrible image that stuck to Republican House managers who brought the puritanical case against Clinton—not for political crimes against the state but personal ethical lapses—while most Americans were indeed eager to simply “move on.”


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/05/13/MNG94IRGOO1.DTL
"House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco has told her caucus that the idea of impeaching President Bush isn't in the cards if the party takes over the House in November's elections."
----snip-----
"Republican campaign officials responded to Pelosi's TV appearance by saying she was preparing to impeach the president. The Republican National Committee charged that Pelosi's televised comments showed that impeachment was a part of her agenda for 2007.

"In a broad sense, it could energize the Republican base,'' Carl Forti, spokesman for the Republican National Congressional Committee, the House GOP's campaign arm said on Friday."


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/16/politics/16impeach.html?ex=1300165200&en=e5a2187ef66c4f3f&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss
"Impeachment, coming your way if there are changes in who controls the House eight months from now," Paul Weyrich, a veteran conservative organizer, declared last month in an e-mail newsletter.

The threat of impeachment, Mr. Weyrich suggested, was one of the only factors that could inspire the Republican Party's demoralized base to go to the polls. With "impeachment on the horizon," he wrote, "maybe, just maybe, conservatives would not stay at home after all."

















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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 01:35 AM
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25. It makes the nation feel (and get) better - so we will keep demanding.
Standing on principle isn't doing "nothing." Neither is pumping the Dem base (which, if successful, would be a first in my lifetime).

And BTW, do you read your own posts?

From Weyrich himself -- merely a "maybe, just maybe." (Uncertainty out of him should in itself be a banner headline.)

And among their "capital B" base, only a 60%?!? Since these lemmings don't do "gray areas," that's means 40% likely support it already. (Which is not too surprising, as "accuse and punish" is a reflexive pathology with that crowd.)

The only staunch "opponents of impeachment" you've shown are the spineless DC-Dem members of the DC/Euphemedia Analstocracy -- the Lieberman crowd.

There's simply no downside (outside the beltway) to calling for impeachment. Particularly now because it's still a demonstration of principled resolve. All the stratego-collegial-politico-electoral objections are just rationalizations for inaction -- and a recipe for failure, in that waiting for a majority makes it seem like just one more partisan stunt with the public.

But beyond that crap, it's the only way we can even begin to dial back from this madness - to demonstrate acknowledgement and regret for what this never-elected, never-legitimate regime has wrought across the planet.

It is the one path to Redeem Our National Soul.

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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 11:32 AM
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27. Like I said, if it makes you feel better, keep crying "Impeach!"
I would not presume to speak for how the entire nation feels. I would love to see Bush impeached, but I would also love to see him convicted by the Senate. I can wait until after the November election and when the Democrats at least take back the House to so shrilly cry for impeachment because is the Democrats do not take back the House, Bush will never be impeached. Bush has done more than enough to motivate Democrats to get out and vote, so I don't see the point in doing anything to motivate the Republican base. That would seem to be counterproductive.

BTW, I don't read all of my posts. The point was that more than just one guy on the Sunday news shows was saying that Democrat cries for impeachment of Bush would motivate the Republican base. The Democratic Party is not monolithic with its supporters marching in lockstep and total agreement with one another. There is room for a diversity of opinions, although sometimes reading here I wouldn't believe it. I can respect the opinion of those who are crying for Bush's impeachment, I just don't think this is the best time to do it and I am sure there are other Democrats who would agree. Let's not make this the litmus test of who is a genuine Democrat or not.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 06:57 PM
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14. Just keep repeating ... louder and louder ... over and over
And your reason need not be "THE reason."

Impeachment IS our positive agenda.

And our only moral, patriotic option.

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haydukelives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 07:13 PM
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18. I agree Senator
Impeachment is the only patriotic option

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BlueCentrist Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:47 PM
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23. You can say that again.
:kick:
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 07:08 PM
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17. LOUDER
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 07:34 PM
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19. Put it on your bumper
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 08:30 PM
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21. NOW! nt
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 09:01 PM
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22. Proposed articals of Impeachment against George W. Bush
Posted on April 7.


Proposed articals of Impeachment against George W. Bush

RESOLVED, That George W. Bush, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors, and that the following articles of impeachment to be exhibited to the Senate:

ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT EXHIBITED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN THE NAME OF ITSELF AND OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AGAINST GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, IN MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT OF ITS IMPEACHMENT AGAINST HIM FOR HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANOURS

Article 1.

In his conduct of the office of the President of the United States and as Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States, George W. Bush, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, and in willful disregard to the safety and welfare of the members of the Armed Forces of the United States, made false or misleading statements and directed his subordinates to make false or misleading statements orally and in writing to members of the United States Congress and in public speeches and interviews concerning national security threat posed by the regime in the Republic of Iraq and, on March 19, 2003, directed the armed forces of the United States to overthrow the Iraqi government and occupy the Republic of Iraq, causing the deaths of over 2300 service members as of April 1, 2006 . . . .

Article 2.

In his conduct of the office of the President of the United States, George W. Bush, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, willfully disregarded treaties and conventions legally entered into by the United States of America . . . .

Article 3.

In his conduct of the office of the President of the United States, George W. Bush, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, and in violation of the Fourth Article of Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, directed the National Security Agency to conduct searches of the private effects of American citizens and listen to privates conversations of American citizens through electronic media with the authorization of a legal warrant . . . .

Article 4.

In his conduct of the office of the President of the United States, George W. Bush, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, and in violation of the Sixth Article of Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, has ordered American citizens to be detained without criminal charge for an excessive period of time . . . .

Article 5.

In his conduct of the office of the President of the United States, George W. Bush, and in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, entered a conspiracy to unmask the identify of a covert operative of the Central Intelligence Agency and to declassify documents or make unauthorized publication of classified documents for the purpose of personal gain in a manner inconsistent with the security of the United States of America.

In all of this, George W. Bush has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law and justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore George W. Bush, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office.

Read more.




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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 12:23 AM
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24. got all the information on my website that you need
Check it out please..........http://www.johnlisainmilo.com/liberty_1.html

click on "Impeach Bush Today." link for DIY impeachment

and..... If you are feeling rebellious click on postcard image and send to GWB

Thanks for your support.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 10:13 AM
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26. That poor lady.



She's looking at the fleet of black Suburbans with dark tinted windows parked outside her house. And a team of NSA spooks are monitoring her phone and researching her calling records.



But I agree with her sentiment 100% and she has my admiration.





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