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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:19 AM
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When was the last time that one man wreaked so much damage...?
and destruction around the world? Think hard. Can you think of one person that has created as much chaos and violence and destruction as the present occupant of the White House. Name one.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:21 AM
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1. Hitler? And the people who caused world war I?
But of course President Bushs' numbers haven't really been completely tallied yet.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:21 AM
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2. Nero?
He may not be the last, but he certainly springs to mind.
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:22 AM
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3. Reagan...
but we did not have the internet at the time so didn't realize it until later. By that time, history was watered down and presented in such a complicated way that the average person held no interest.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:23 AM
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4. Stalin Killed More People At Home Than Bush Has Worldwide
Sorry but Stalin is the odds on favorite for evil of the month club.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:25 AM
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5. good question
reagan comes to mind, but most of the people he decreed dead were in central america.

daddybush was another, panama, iraq, central america, but jr. has had the more global attack, he may be in a class by himself at this point.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:36 AM
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6. Hitler, Napoleon, and a handful of Popes. n/t
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:40 AM
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7. Reagan, various communists, Nixon, more communists, Hitler
Would be the list of names I'd give, going back in time, of people who've done more harm than Bush.

I'm ashamed to say that I don't know enough about Cold War history to list all the Communist rulers whose body counts beat Bush's and give their dates, but there are a fair few of them.

It wouldn't surprise me if Bush were to be in the top 50 for the last 60 years, though.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:45 AM
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8. Reagan and Nixon were bad but...
I would not put them in the same grade with Bush, Jr...
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:49 AM
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9. Ivan the Terrible
In many ways...he reminds me of this resident.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_the_Terrible
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:50 AM
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10. i think its unprecedented.
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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:59 AM
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11. No, there are far worse.
The deaths Bush was responsible for in Iraq and Afghanistan could likely be measured in the hundreds of thousands, though we'll never know the true number. Hitler and Stalin each have killed tens of millions.

Not that I'm saying Bush or his puppeteers are angels...
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 02:46 PM
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14. This administration is not done yet...
and unlike many of the examples given of individuals who wrought destruction in their own countries or regions, this administration(and Reagan's)have a global reach.
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 02:52 PM
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16. what is the number above which
we simply don't compare anymore because absolute damnation is assured regardless.

the quote attributed to Stalin was something like "A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic"
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:59 AM
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12. the butterfly collecting emperor of Japan
Edited on Tue Aug-29-06 12:01 PM by Generic Other
He was a puppet. Incompetent. Worshipped as a living god, he could have rallied his people for peace not war, but instead followed the lead of his generals and the warmongers. Let his generals wage pre-emptive war. Thumbed his nose at the world. Was defended by his followers with cult-like fervor. Useless. Inherited entitlement. Should have been brought to trial after the war but wasn't ever held accountable. Only forced to back down after his people devastated by atomic bomb. Ultimately lost the war. The parallels are striking.

Hirohito was a wimp and a weenie. Like most Japanese emperors--too weak to raise a kimono sleeve if someone wasn't pulling the strings.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 12:14 PM
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13. Whew! Thank goodness * isn't smart enough to collect anything. n/t
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 02:48 PM
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15. Julius Caesar?
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BlueCentrist Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:01 PM
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17. I don't know,Hitler maybe?
I do know one thing though, it took a 9/11 coupled with a corrupt administration to wake this country up and get engaged in Democracy.
It's tragic that it took something like this for Americans to realize how fragile and sacred our Democracy is but that is a lesson learned from this dark period in our history.
We are a young nation though,I'm most certain that this era will leave us as a stronger more united nation, more determined than ever to uphold the Constitution and fight for it in all aspects of governemnt and society.
I truly believe that.
We will look back on this someday the same way Germans look back at Hitler;in disbelief that it ever was allowed to happened.


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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 06:23 PM
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18. Hitler & Stalin did much worse. But there is something two making sure
the people in power should not be sufferers of certain types of personality disorders.

Pretty much nobody is alloud to be a GP if they are blind as a bat. Nobody does high rise building if they have trouble with hand-eye coordination.

Time for the UN and nations in general to not allow certain personalities in high offices unless they can pass a psychological test, and MRI and a background check.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 06:23 PM
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19. reagan
hitler/stalin were worse...i think he is on par with reagan
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