Is another civil war in america possible?

[Check12]

It sure looks like the neocons have it won. Personal privacy is gone, the ACLU will be tied up in the courts for years while more and more power is consolidated in the oligarchy. The war on the middle and lower classes will cause more economic division. Scandals get under reported by the coporate media. Presidential power is absolute in the minds of many.

There has always been throughout history a breaking point when tyranny goes to far.
How bad will it have to get before threats of revolution and armed conflict begin?

[leftstreet]

1. When Soccer Moms and Nascar Dads experience hunger

Sad to say, there'll be no revolution til then.

[Zinfandel]

2. No, because we're all behind our keyboards-We don't dare go outside...

They know this, as sure as I'm sitting behind this keyboard....

[upi402]

3. This would be a good poll.

I wonder what the results would be here...

[melody]

4. absolutely

If we don't take back control of Congress and stabilize the government,we're going to see more and more of the feudal state-based US vision these monsters want. If we have states running up against states, the battles will begin at state lines. Once the Jesus freaks get their bloodlust sated in Alabama and want to encroach on the east or west, those skirmishes will erupt. The central government won't want to "get involved".

The battle of Washington and Oregon versus Idaho with all its survivalist gun nuts? It's going to get very bad before it gets better.

THAT is the bogeyman Bush should be concerned with. It may not be ten years down the road, but it's coming eventually and sooner than later.

[Check12]

5. You are right, What this man has done to our america is tragic

[guruoo]

6. IMHO, the danger will be greatest...

in the months between the next Presidential
election, and the swearing in -irregardless
of who wins the election.
I believe the right will be the ones to start the ball rolling.
And of course, we all know who they'll try to pin it on, don't we?

[thefloyd]

7. Naw

Conservatives would not elist in there own Country's civil war....

[guruoo]

8. They'll contract it out. n/t

[Skink]

9. Soon enough we will learn how to strap explosives to our bellies

We couldn't possibly resist any other way.

[guruoo]

11. That's what that OU student appairently intended to do

The FBI played down that part.

http://newsok.com/article/1644549/?template=home/main
The younger Hinrichs had a long fascination with ammunition
and bombs, his relatives and friends said. Inside his bedroom
in Norman were several used metal artillery shells — the largest
about 2 feet long. He had belts of used brass shell casings, a
box of spent bullets and military ammo containers.

He also had items more typical of many college students — textbooks,
empty liquor bottles, magazines and a martial arts movie videotape.

Bomb experts removed explosive-related materials from the apartment Oct. 2.

[Nutmegger]

10. No! For the most part, people don't give a damn.

I mean people are just so apathetic, they don't vote, they don't get involved, they could care less who's in office. As long as there's something good on the idiot box and some good beer, there will be no serious reform / revolt.

[Golden Raisin]

12. No.

The political divisions are as opposed and angry as anytime since the Civil War but are being played out by only the most ardent/committed of each opposing camp (neocons vs. progressives.) The great majority are content not to act/vote/care as long as there is 'American Idol', plenty of gas, SUVs, 'In Touch' magazine, and maybe a shiny, new flat-screen TV bought on credit, etc. When the draft comes back, grandma dies because she can't afford her blood pressure medication, enough jobs disappear, or BushCo opens up a few internment camps for domestic "traitors" m-a-y-b-e the lethargy will end.

[flordehinojos]

13. i think we are already in one, except that the bullets haven't started to

fly, yet.

[Libby2]

14. I hate to say it, but I think it's very possible. nt

[Peter Frank]

15. No civil war...

...but the revolt is already underway.

This far RW admin has raised so many red flags against our Constitution that the responding salvos are ongoing and inescapable.

[Indy_Dem_Defender]

16. Possible

I know some people won't like what I say here but this is the way I see it, If something like this where to happen it wouldn't be black Vs White, North Vs South, Christians Vs Everyone else. You'll have one side the majority of americans, Lower & middle Class whites & black taking on the minority of really rich White elites (and rich ingnorant black people like 50 cents) the rich won't actually fight they'll hire illegal aliens to fight for them, they'll promise them good jobs, and good money and then tell them how ungratful we where and by defeating us they can have what we tought wasn't good enough for us and the illegal aliens will eat all of this shit up because rich are so convincing at playing this game.

[teryang]

17. There will be resistance, non violent, low visibility, low intensity

Some of it's primary weapons will be:

Failure to pay taxes.
Failure to apprise corporations and government of your correct address. (transient lifestyle)
Dropping off of corporate grid functions to deprive them of revenue. No cable, no satellite, intermittent electric supplemented with independent sources of energy.
Wholesale abandonment of insurance and financial instruments as cost ineffective.
Using exchanges of services and goods as currency rather than being victimized by the tax and regulatory laws.
Abuse of credit cards (without ever being able to pay back)
Abandonment of the obligation to pay for health care services.
Abandonment of consumerism as self defeating.

These changes are profound and already occurring. They are not an organized resistance but the natural response by citizens making millions of unrelated decisions. These persons intuitively rather than analytically understand that the system is rigged against them. They ultimately recognize the only practical way to carve out their personal sphere (of rather extensive )personal freedom in light of relative poverty is not playing the obligation game. It isn't a level playing field.

I am not advocating these choices. I am simply observing what the thousands of people I have seen at the bottom end in the really free (on your own) economy are doing. These choices may not be wise but they are the decisions that millions of people are making. It just takes too much time, money and paperwork to be a "good citizen." An education may have been of no avail in the consumer ratrace, job market, or been inadequate to deal with unemployment, low wages, personal illness or natural diaster. The general education and wages of a substantial part of the population are insufficient means to live a conventional American "way of life." The bottom or the safety net has already been ripped wide open and they, in falling through, are making the only choices they can.

This is more of an anarchism-in-effect than a political statement or movement. The people doing it don't even consider politics a relevant human endeavor. After all, it never did anything for them. The trend is only in the observation of the potential millions of individuals making these choices as the social contract is abandoned by corporatist elites who consider only driving down their costs and risks and placing them on hapless, struggling individuals. As a consequence, a powerful police state is necessary to control a huge growing rootless, shifting, riff raff of unconventional non conforming people.

The war itself is fought out on the streets and in the lesser neighborhoods and undesireable areas. The battle is lopsided, on the one sided there are the resource poor unconnected transients, on the other well fed and often arrogant police weilding tasers, pepper spray, and handcuffs. Many of the resisters are disabled, a chief cause of dropping out. Destination- incarceration.