Mexican Crisis: Stage Two --What Does It Mean For US???

[Blackhatjack]

Now that the Election Tribunal has indicated it intends to ignore the massive election fraud that took place in its last presidential election and name US choice Calderon as the next president of Mexico, both sides are preparing for the next stage of events. Obrador and his supporters are not willing to stand by and see Calderon "installed" as president based on fraud, and Calderon is preparing to use force to complete his hold on power. Obrador has called for a constitutional convention to create a "parallel" government run by and for the people. So armed conflict seems almost a given in this environment.

Will the US take a "hands off" approach to internal politics in Mexico? Not likely. What role does our government have under our constitution to support one political candidate over another? What if there is all out civil war in Mexico, a huge contributor to the world's crude oil supply? If Obrador succeeded in distributing that country's assets in such a way as to benefit the poor and middle class rather than the moneyed elite and corporations, wouldn't that be an incentive for desperate Mexicans to stay at home and not illegally cross the border into the US?

The MSM has played down the Obrador faction and their protests as insignificant. However, millions of protestors have come together on more than three occasions, and they have dominated Mexico City since the election. Soon events will push the Mexico crisis onto the US front pages. The outcome will have far reaching effects on the US for years to come.

Edited to fix the typo pointed out by fellow DUer. Thanks.

[drm604]

1. K & R

This is an important issue. The American people need to know the truth before our government gets too involved in supporting Calderon in a Mexican civil war.

[acmejack]

2. If nothing else the Mexican People are about to show us

How it is done. Perhaps we should take notes. The People of Oaxaca have been doing it at great personal risk for some time now. Our media chooses to ignore all of this for obvious reasons-they are scared shitless the people (we only rate a small p at this time, I prefer sheeple) here might wake up!

[Blackhatjack]

4. We need a Congressional Act Prohibiting Intervention ala Iran/Contra....

You will recall that Congress specifically passed an act making it illegal for the US to support Contra guerillas in Nicaragua before the CIA got involved in selling arms to Iran and using the money to back the contras, all at the behest and with the knowledge of Reagan and the White House.

Such a congressional act would not be that radical. It fits right in with the prohibition we have that foreign governments may not contribute to political candidates in this country(ie. China).

If such an act was passed, the massive slush funds and black budget funds could not legally be used in Mexico to prop up Calderon and suppress the Obrador supporters.

[Greyhound]

14. Oh by all means, that was so effective before. We should definitely

keep repeating the same meaningless gestures because, as we have seen, these pricks are so very concerned with obeying the law.

[Nozebro]

6. I disagree with your analysis/conclusion.

You said "Our media chooses to ignore all of this for obvious reasons-they are scared...", but that assumes the corporate media "might" be open-minded but in this case have yielded to their fears.

My own opinion is that the corporate media is supporting Caulderon precisely because he is every bit as much a right-wing puppet as (99%) of successful politicians in this country. Truth is, what we're looking at is creeping fascism and THAT has ALREADY arrived on this side of the border, unlike the Sandinistas that President Reagan "warned" could be at our border if we didn't support the "freedom fighters" of Nicaragua with illegal weapons purchased from the sale of cocaine imported to this country by our own CIA.

[oc2002]

9. It is not time yet here. As long as the middle class feel they still have

a steak in this system, or feel some security or stability, they will not rise to the point of Rebelion. Which I think is about 10 years overdue now.

not until there is great financial turmoil, where they feel they have nothing left to lose. Americans will not revolt here for much more than that.

[slackmaster]

16. They couldn't even control their ballot boxes

I don't see any way they going to show anyone how it's done.

[Kagemusha]

3. I think you have a typo

"Calderon has called for a constitutional convention to create a "parallel" government run by and for the people. So armed conflict seems almost a given in this environment."

The first word in that sentence, you meant Obrador there, right?

I'm wondering what the ultimate outcome will be here too.

[mmonk]

5. Isn't the PRI model

the republican model for the US?

[Blackhatjack]

7. There are reports that Choicepoint provided voter info lists to Calderon

....just like Choicepoint did for Republicans in Florida in 2000. The corporate interests in this country have massive economic interests at stake depending on the outcome of this election. Obrador would almost certainly begin to void the "giveaway" contracts to US oil companies and corporate interests. Just the exposure of the corruption between the Mexican government and the US corporate interests would be more than US corporate interests are willing to bear.

But these US corporate interests are not the US government, even though they think they own us.

[oc2002]

8. Crisis? Sounds more like a REVOLUTION!

I salute the people of Mexico for fighting for what we have lost...A Democracy.

/cry.


Any mainstream media coverage?

[Blackhatjack]

10. US MSM rpts the Obrador protests are losing steam....

....attempting to marginalize the Obrador forces. They keep reporting that there was no massive voting fraud in election, and refer to Calderon as the elected president even though that certification has not yet taken place.

Kinda like Bilbray being sworn into the US House before the votes were counted and certified.

[Hubert Flottz]

11. "What Does It Mean For US???"

It means the Bush KKKlan has taught them how to steal an election and get away with it.

[tomreedtoon]

12. Cheaper Mexican vacations! Wahoo!

And that's not simply a snarky comment. I have a friend - a very nice non-political lady who keeps cats and never votes because "it only encourages them." She plans to go to New Orleans this December because "the prices are really low and there aren't crowds there any more."

There simply aren't enough people who care about what happens to Mexico, and there isn't an intelligent person in the White House with the will or the brains to understand or convince the people to take a stand.

America has relied on the long-term stability of Mexico and Canada to protect us. By allowing Mexico to degenerate into civil war, the Bushies are sabotaging this country's best interests. It's like ignoring the screams and gunshots from your neighbor's house, until their house catches on fire and it spreads to your house.

[semillama]

13. not to mention border crossings

if anyone thinks it's out of control now, what will it be like with an active, shooting revolution going on?

Forget it! There's not enough minutemen out there to protect the helpless white virgins! DOOM!

[Cleita]

15. Not a bad idea!

Obrador has called for a constitutional convention to create a "parallel" government run by and for the people.

We should do that here.

[Selatius]

17. The US will support the Mexican gov't in crushing the protesters.

"It's in the interests of maintaining stability in the region."

That's the mantra we use as justification for propping up all those oligarchies and dictatorships in the Middle East.