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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:40 AM
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Harold Pinter, British writer and Nobel Litt. Price winner, about Iraq
This is from his lecture last year, as he was receiving the Nobel Price for litterature in Stockholm:

Political language, as used by politicians, does not venture into any of this territory since the majority of politicians, on the evidence available to us, are interested not in truth but in power and in the maintenance of that power. To maintain that power it is essential that people remain in ignorance, that they live in ignorance of the truth, even the truth of their own lives. What surrounds us therefore is a vast tapestry of lies, upon which we feed.

As every single person here knows, the justification for the invasion of Iraq was that Saddam Hussein possessed a highly dangerous body of weapons of mass destruction, some of which could be fired in 45 minutes, bringing about appalling devastation. We were assured that was true. It was not true. We were told that Iraq had a relationship with Al Quaeda and shared responsibility for the atrocity in New York of September 11th 2001. We were assured that this was true. It was not true. We were told that Iraq threatened the security of the world. We were assured it was true. It was not true.
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What has happened to our moral sensibility? Did we ever have any? What do these words mean? Do they refer to a term very rarely employed these days - conscience? A conscience to do not only with our own acts but to do with our shared responsibility in the acts of others? Is all this dead? Look at Guantanamo Bay. Hundreds of people detained without charge for over three years, with no legal representation or due process, technically detained forever. This totally illegitimate structure is maintained in defiance of the Geneva Convention. It is not only tolerated but hardly thought about by what's called the 'international community'. This criminal outrage is being committed by a country, which declares itself to be 'the leader of the free world'. Do we think about the inhabitants of Guantanamo Bay? What does the media say about them? They pop up occasionally - a small item on page six. They have been consigned to a no man's land from which indeed they may never return. At present many are on hunger strike, being force-fed, including British residents. No niceties in these force-feeding procedures. No sedative or anaesthetic. Just a tube stuck up your nose and into your throat. You vomit blood. This is torture. What has the British Foreign Secretary said about this? Nothing. What has the British Prime Minister said about this? Nothing. Why not? Because the United States has said: to criticise our conduct in Guantanamo Bay constitutes an unfriendly act. You're either with us or against us. So Blair shuts up.

The invasion of Iraq was a bandit act, an act of blatant state terrorism, demonstrating absolute contempt for the concept of international law. The invasion was an arbitrary military action inspired by a series of lies upon lies and gross manipulation of the media and therefore of the public; an act intended to consolidate American military and economic control of the Middle East masquerading - as a last resort - all other justifications having failed to justify themselves - as liberation. A formidable assertion of military force responsible for the death and mutilation of thousands and thousands of innocent people.
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Early in the invasion there was a photograph published on the front page of British newspapers of Tony Blair kissing the cheek of a little Iraqi boy. 'A grateful child,' said the caption. A few days later there was a story and photograph, on an inside page, of another four-year-old boy with no arms. His family had been blown up by a missile. He was the only survivor. 'When do I get my arms back?' he asked. The story was dropped. Well, Tony Blair wasn't holding him in his arms, nor the body of any other mutilated child, nor the body of any bloody corpse. Blood is dirty. It dirties your shirt and tie when you're making a sincere speech on television.

More:
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/2005/pinter-lecture-e.html

You'll also find video here:
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/2005/pinter-lecture.html
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He also touches upon the previous policy of the US in Nicaragua, in what really is a very political speech.
You should read it.
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:15 AM
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1. It was a stunning speech,
you really should watch the video.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:45 AM
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3. Yes, it was remotely transmitted, no?
He was to ill to attend the ceremony. I don't have realplayer installed, so I had to be content with the text.
Here's a picture from the ceremony:



The reason this was mentioned now, was an article in the Scotsman:

I'm written out, says controversial Pinter

PLAYWRIGHT Harold Pinter revealed yesterday that he has given up writing altogether.

The writer was speaking at the Edinburgh Book Festival for his first major public event in Britain since winning the Nobel Prize for literature last year.
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Pinter, whose last published play came out in 2000, said the reason he had given up writing was that he had "written himself out", adding: "I recently had a holiday in Dorset and took a couple of my usual yellow writing pads. I didn't write a damn word. Fondly, I turned them over and put them in a drawer."

Speaking about suicide bombs, he said: "These are terrible, horrific acts - let there be no question of that - but I believe they are logical and inevitable until we take a different view of our political responsibility.

"In Iraq, there have been 150,000 deaths we have brought about. There is plenty of blood on the streets, brought about by what I would claim, without hesitation, is state terrorism."

http://news.scotsman.com/entertainment.cfm?id=1258602006
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He's still going strong as an actor, though. Important not to lose public figures like Pinter, they do have a lot to tell us.

He also have a webpage, with a lot of material:
http://www.haroldpinter.org/home/index.shtml

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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 07:44 AM
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4. YouTube link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY2Z27Y-HJE

Not the greatest quality, but you should be able to watch it okay.

(actually this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq3sQpSCvmo

is the same but with Spanish subtitles & the sound is better)
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 08:28 AM
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8. You're right
Edited on Tue Aug-29-06 08:29 AM by mogster
It need to be seen (and heard), not only read.

I chose the spanish version, as the first link needed login.
Thanks!
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laura888 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:19 AM
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2. His outrage should be shared by everyone.
He says:

"What has happened to our moral sensibility? Did we ever have any? What do these words mean? Do they refer to a term very rarely employed these days - conscience? A conscience to do not only with our own acts but to do with our shared responsibility in the acts of others? Is all this dead? Look at Guantanamo Bay. Hundreds of people detained without charge for over three years, with no legal representation or due process, technically detained forever."

How can you NOT have this reaction. WTF?!
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 07:52 AM
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7. Conscience - not just a word
You know, that's what's wrong these days; it's all about politics and not about real things. Thnx Laura :)
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 07:44 AM
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5. I think you mean "prize" not "price" (in your title), might want to edit
that.

Go Pinter.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 07:50 AM
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6. Ew
Bad english again :spank: :blush:

Thanks, it should of course be 'prize' ;-)

To late to edit, though.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:28 PM
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9. One kick for the evening crowd
See his whole speech on the video links, he basically wraps up what's wrong. What an incredible man! :-)
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:38 PM
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10. k n r for what happened to our moral sensibility. nt
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