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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:47 PM
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An Arrest in the Plame Case is Imminent
Edited on Mon Aug-28-06 10:57 PM by FogerRox
A friend emailed me, thats all I got. It was on the news tonight.

Some background....

There is supposed to be 2 WaPo articles, I think this is one...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/28/AR2006082801278. html

BUT, in march of this year:

http://minipundit.typepad.com/minipundit/2006/03/armitage_plame_.html

Remember last week when this was the headline:

Plame considers suing Armitage

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/22/ap/politics/mainD8JLNQ3G0.shtml


Edited for a wee spelling problem
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:49 PM
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1. WaPo link does not work. nt
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:53 PM
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4. This one does:
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Traveling_Home Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:53 PM
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5. Here's a fix
right click on the link - select copy shorcut - paste the shortcut into your browser and add .html at the end

or

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/28/AR2006082801278.html
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:50 PM
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2. Has it been 24 business hours already?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:55 PM
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7. Is it 24 hours in a day or 24 business hours?
Does it include lunch breaks? Is it an American schedule or a European? 24 hours can be many things. ;)
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 11:12 PM
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10. Looks like Jason Leopold has another scoop!
Armitage about to be arrested for leaking Plame's identity! Whoooo!

Except Fitzgerald has known about Armitage from the beginning, he was totally cooperating!
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:52 PM
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3. and Bush is going to resign, Rove will admit all............
Suffein succotash, I thought I thaw a putty tat.
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LA lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:55 PM
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6. Is this it?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:56 PM
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8. If we could have Dick Cheney running naked down Pennsylvania Avenue
screaming over HIS being indicted, that would be a desirable outcome.

Ya know, I never did like Dick Cheney that much.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 11:20 PM
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12. LOL
:)
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 06:22 AM
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25. Please. Does he have to be naked? Shudder. n/t
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ObaMania Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 07:24 AM
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40. Man, now I'm having a flashback..
.. of the nekkid towtruck driver chasing the guy(s) down the street in "Sideways".
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 07:01 PM
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44. I want to see him tear his shirt off and throw is cell phone at a camera
man. :D

Just like the producer of Cops talked about wanting to see happen to corporate shills in Bowling For Columbine. :D
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 11:10 PM
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9. How about editing for a great big bullshit problem!


Seriously
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 11:16 PM
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11. The "arrest" part is sarcastic, right?
Who are they going to arrest? Fitz already decided not to charge Armitage
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 11:25 PM
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13. !. Who is the true leaker? The person in the know who leaked it first -
a CIA person for example? Or is the leaker the person who tells Novak? Or is Novak the leaker?

For the first time, I'm disallusioned about the progress.

How did Armitage find out?

Was Armitage on the AF 1 flight to Africa with Powell?

I believe Cheney is at the core of this. Because this WAS NOT just about Valerie Wilson, this WAS ABOUT Brewster-Jennings.

I think we are being sent up a dead-end side track.

The Wilson law suit may be all we have left.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 11:31 PM
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14. Hey Roger...Excellent - This is a warning to Powell and a get even
Edited on Mon Aug-28-06 11:32 PM by autorank
for Wilkenson talking so much. It's all about Powell. Armitage is Powells implementer. He probably stopped a war between India and Packistan, remember that when Powell and Armitage just stepped in and ran the show.

It's all about a warning shot.

They've picked the wrong guy to be a pastsy. He knows EVERYTHING and has been around FOREVER. Heck I remember him way, way back. Do not mess with this guy is my thought but then I'm not *.

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bananarepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 12:55 AM
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19. I hope you're right Autorank. I'd like to see Armitage turn on the Bush's!
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 11:32 PM
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15. But why bother when
ROVE has been INDICTED TWICE already. Just ask Leopold.
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springhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:01 AM
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20. Get over it already.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:18 AM
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23. NO
Let's have a hypothetical situation. Say that Truthout comes to President Clinton's aid concerning that new ABC bullshit film that blames 911 on Clinton - we all get behind a boycott (Like when we stopped the Reagan film), but golly gee, the Media says, "Oh yeah, THAT SITE is extolling the virtues of President Clinton, claiming that it wasn't his fault, that he'd tried to off Bin Laden BEFORE 911.. but of course we all know THAT was the site that CLAIMED with Leopold's shitty writing that Rove was Indicted TWICE, that he'd been served, etc, etc.."

SEE how it works? Leopold, Mark Ash (and whoever else claimed it to be true, despite the whole web denying it, along with the media), have NO CREDIBILITY NOW, and THAT gets used AGAINST ALL OF US..

Get over it? Heard that one before, a favorite of the RIGHT WING.

Please do not use THEIR words to promote fantasy.

I will NOT get over it, never will, and until they retract and apologise a hell of a lot of other people Ain't gonna get over it EITHER.

Get Real.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 09:02 AM
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28. cretin, bow before truthout, on your knees and bow!

Don't you know Karl Rove spends at least 5 hours a day playing his tricks on truthout? They are that important! :sarcasm:
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 05:09 PM
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32. Good one
but cretin is so blase, there are far better nasty word bits to string together, and we know what some of them are - someone has a thesaurus of naughty words that I've never heard of til one dark night here on the DU :)
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:23 AM
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31. How can you lose complete credibility on one story?
Here you are again beating this dead horse. They screwed up - MAYBE. Have you ever made a mistake, a major one? Do people totally disregard you forever because you made one big mistake? Do people bring it up every time you show up? What's the point of beating on these people for one presumed mistake.

The NYT, Post, etc. make mistakes multiple times every day. It's normal to make mistakes. If the standard is one mistake and you're headed for the gallows, I say that's a bit harsh, kind of like Saudi justice. I'm tired of seeing people castigated here that are truly on the left.

What if the story actually turns out to have been true and indictment held up. Then TruthOut was right and you were wrong. Does that mean we ignore you, castigate you forever? Not me but that's something you need to think about. Why waste your time. Do some art, now that's great stuff.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 05:18 PM
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33. Go to ALEXA and look at their ratings
they are no longer accepted as a NEWS SOURCE.. it's not just me, Google and Yahoo dumped them, that's good enough for me.. as for ONE mistake, it wasn't ONE mistake, it was a series of arrogant bullshit - TWICE they said that Rove was Indicted, 24 Business hours ring a bell, MALARKY, SEALED V SEALED? THOUSANDS of them in courts..

You wanna hang onto someone's credibility by a toenail feel free, but after 5 years and HUNDREDS of thousands of dollars I personally invested in building credibility gets trashed all over the web and in the media so the Left looks like Loonies infuriates me..

A fender dent is a mistake, a 5 car pile up is a disaster, there's a difference..

I respect you, but I refuse to give Truthout ANY credibility, because the "dead horse" is STILL laying around stinking up their site, their fault, a simple retraction or apology would have sufficed, but no, we get shit from them that sounds like they've wrapped their whole bodies in tin foil..

If they are right you can castigate me ALL you'd like, I'd be happy for you to call me a fuckwad every time I come online, I'd never alert on you, feel free IF they are right.. but I'd offered a 1000 dollar bet, and not only did it get turned down, I was attacked. Why? Because they KNOW it's not true.

If you examine all the writing what they presuppose is flatly IMPOSSIBLE.

and IF is a damn BIG WORD, but there really isn't any IF here - they are wrong on so many counts, and it ain't just me...
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 05:30 PM
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34. Yikes...
I'd never call you a fuckwad, unless we were personal friends;) and we were joking. Even if I thought it were the case, I would NEVER do it on line. I understand much more now about your position in view of the $$$'s invested. I'll just demure on the issue from now on. I like your stuff a lot. We'll leave it at that and I wish you all the best.

Don't give up. We're besieged. My brush with the media tells me that we simply can't get much of anything covered. I was a contributing sponsor to this Zogby poll, Paul Lehto, Land Shark was the main sponsor. Nothing, no bites, nada. Great results too, one of the highest poll numbers EVER on a public policy question. But alas, to talk about election issues is to raise the subject, to open the door and we all know, including Corporate Media, where that goes...2004, 2002, 2000 boom!

We'll prevail eventually but it's getting tedious.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 05:43 PM
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35. I might be a fuckwad, you never know :)
but since there's no truth in advertising, or even the media as we know, there's a lot of misdirection, egos, and just plain lies.. how many movies have been made showing someone willing to cut throats to get a "scoop"? even if the scoop turns out to be wrong, it's almost always defended..

even in personal life we have to constantly say and admit to things that we KNOW aren't true, all of cinema is based on that if you think about it..

The hard part is TRYING like hell to get to the truth, admitting it so that we can work on the problem, once identified..

Yeah, we did mortgage our home to fight the Bush admin, and I'm still working on that like my last LIEberman Flash which the Dems should pick up on, that LIEberman is a Puppet, and SO ARE WE.. our strings are being pulled with faked terror plots and THAT is what I want to get out to the public.. and THAT is also all about Credibility..

Truthout can say anything they want, they can have their fans, but until they apologise for this disgrace disguised as journalism I won't be one of them..

that said, I bear no malice towards you, we DO have other issues, hundreds of them to battle, new ones spring up like wild fires, the Public is SCANDAL Weary, and that's another thing the Dems should be pushing :)

My bank account is dwindling, and soon I won't be able to shove Truth in their faces, I'll have to suck it up and suffer with the rest that Bush has raped.. I'm down to designing Hawaiian T-shirts to make money, that's how much I believed in fighting for a LIBERAL media who tells the truth, and polices it's own.. the corporate media is not, unless you call Colbert Making Jon Stewart apologise to Geraldo policing themselves :)

Let's go get them, if we're down to nothing but a butter knife I'm still in the battle (figuratively speaking Mr Gonzales you scumbag) :)
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #33
38. You were attacked because of your behavior
And your inability to stop beating a dead horse.

I still don't get why you have such a hard-on for Leopold and Truthout... whatever floats your boat, I guess.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 04:34 AM
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39. Why do YOU
constantly defend the indefensible? I've explained my reasons, fake "journalists" exactly like him infuriate me when I have personally mortgaged my home to fight Bush and the media for FIVE YEARS, at the cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars, just to have the stinking dead horse site BACK tin foil hat tales and arrogantly I might add..

people like Leopold literally help to piss my money and ALL my work, and I have an abundance of it, credible work, all but pissed away by wacky ass "scoops" that NEVER HAPPENED, and NOW they are setting up a new line of reasoning, that it's SO DOUBLE SECRET (despite the fact that there are THOUSANDS of Sealed VS Sealed cases), that we may NEVER KNOW..

And that is Bullshit.

No Apologies, No Retractions, no Respect.

YOU on the other have are free to live in what I consider to be La La land.. as a Veteran of the Vietnam Era, an enlistee who served his country I FOUGHT for the right for YOU to have a "hard on" for these guys..

Enjoy. But they aren't going to be taken seriously by the Media, ANY media (like Google, Yahoo, Daily Kos, etc) if they try to save President Clinton from ABC's LIES.. why? Because they have NO CREDIBILITY.

Someone has to call bullshit on our own people and keep us clean, if it's me, then so be it.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 02:18 PM
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41. Oh, how noble
Edited on Wed Aug-30-06 02:21 PM by Juniperx
I'm sure YOU have never been wrong in your life! So perfect! So pristine!

Who died and made you God?

Get over it.

Don't blame Leopold because you made bad business decisions. No one forced you to go into debt on a risky business. It was your decision. If you had any foresight at all, you would have realized you were treading on shaky ground to begin with. No one held a gun to your head and forced you to take a chance.

I'm not defending anyone. All I'm saying is that you make this hellish stink over and over again. You do "our side" no favors by acting like this. You are embarrassing. Don't speak for me, mmmkay?

I don't give an airborne rodent's backside who the fuck you are or what wars you supposedly fought in.

Consider me in La La Land all you want. I consider you a lot of things too.... things I can't post here without being deleted.




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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:42 AM
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42. Just amazing
Considering the vileness that drips from all of your attacks on so many, including a Veteran activist who's given his all that anyone takes you seriously at all.

I've never put anyone on ignore in all these 5 years, congrats, you are the first.

I pity you.

Goodbye, I hope you get some help.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 06:59 PM
Response to Reply #42
43. Pot to the kettle...
Have any mirrors in your house?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 11:36 PM
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16. the Plame leaker has finally been revealed!.......























Convicting him may be difficult, though... He's a slippery little fella...
:evilgrin:
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 11:38 PM
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17. I got the same info in an email from Ken Lay in Switzerland! Eerie!
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 11:39 PM
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18. A super double secret arrest, which none of us will know about, amen
Repeat after me: You have to win elections; Patrick Fitzgerald will not save you
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:04 AM
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21. WHAT was on the news tonight?
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 02:13 AM
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22. Fitzgerald's known who Novak's first source was since early on because
the source cooperated with the investigation. IIRC, Fitzgerald has referred to the source in court filings as the "innocent accused." If it's indeed Armitage, he's in the clear and not a subject for criminal charges as far as Fitzgerald is concerned.

That Armitage himself possibly has OK'ed the public revelations by his buds and colleagues might be construed by the positive spin put on his alleged leaks to Woodward and Novak. And also the eagerness to make clear that Armitage was not involved in the White House anti-Wilson campaign. (I don't think he was, but I suspect he probably knew about what the White House folks were up to.) So the story to Isikoff and Corn for their book, the Newsweek and WaPo's articles is that Armitage is just a silly old gossip who let slip something he shouldn't have. Twice. To reporters.

But, unlike Libby and Rove, Armitage apparently came forward early in the investigation and apparently made a good enough case to Fitzgerald that he didn't know her covert status. Whereas Libby lied to investigators/the grand jury and knew in June 2003 that Plame's status was so sensitive that he wouldn't discuss her with a colleague on an unsecured phone. And then Libby talks to Judy Miller about Wilson's wife working for the CIA. That conversation was on June 23, 2 weeks before Armitage apparently spoke to Novak.

As David Corn noted in his recent article, Armitage may have had his own reasons to "gossip" about Wilson but he wasn't a part of the White House's coordinated anti-Wilson campaign. One of Libby's defense strategies has been to try and distract by pointing the finger at Armitage. Armitage's early cooperation with the DOJ investigation and these recent "revelations" undercut that and place the onus for the orchestrated conspiracy and coverup back where it originated: the White House.

At this point, IMO Armitage is more likely to be a witness for the prosecution against Libby than a defendant.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:22 AM
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24. I hope this doesn't come down to Armitage
He's, relatively speaking, a good guy. He's no neo-con.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 06:07 PM
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36. Compared to the rest of this bunch he's an angel
I disagree with some of his foreign policy views, but he seems like a decent guy. In fact, he has long been viewed with suspicion by the neocons because of his friendship with Powell and his moderate views. I hope they can get Gary Busey to play him in the movie, hehe. There are similarities there.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 06:26 AM
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26. It's kept Donnie Rumdumb up at nights for four years...
Edited on Tue Aug-29-06 06:29 AM by Hubert Flottz
Regretting lying to start the WAR...

Edit...if he puts them all in jail he will get the right ones!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 08:51 AM
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 09:08 AM
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29. oh boy.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:10 AM
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30. there's no arrest mentioned. Nothing is imminent. I wish it was, but it's
not.
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 06:13 PM
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37. Special Report misled on the alleged roles of Armitage, Rove, and Libby in
Special Report misled on the alleged roles of Armitage, Rove, and Libby in CIA leak case

Corn noted in an August 27 entry to his "Capitol Games" Nation weblog that Armitage's role in the Plame leak -- whatever it may have been -- does not undermine the allegation that there was a "concerted action" by "multiple people in the White House" to "discredit, punish, or seek revenge against" Wilson, Plame's husband, who accused the Bush administration of manipulating intelligence on Iraq's purported weapons of mass destruction. Corn wrote:

The Armitage leak was not directly a part of the White House's fierce anti-Wilson crusade. But as Hubris notes, it was, in a way, linked to the White House effort, for Amitage had been sent a key memo about Wilson's trip that referred to his wife and her CIA connection, and this memo had been written, according to special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, at the request of I. Lewis Scooter Libby, the vice president's chief of staff. Libby had asked for the memo because he was looking to protect his boss from the mounting criticism that Bush and Cheney had misrepresented the WMD intelligence to garner public support for the invasion of Iraq.

The memo included information on Valerie Wilson's role in a meeting at the CIA that led to her husband's trip. This critical memo was -- as Hubris discloses -- based on notes that were not accurate. (You're going to have to read the book for more on this.) But because of Libby's request, a memo did circulate among State Department officials, including Armitage, that briefly mentioned Wilson's wife.

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