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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:17 PM
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"How Bin Laden's Spy Suckered the CIA, FBI and Army" - on TV tonight
Here's an article about Triple Cross, an interesting documentary on the National Geographic channel tonight:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601088&sid=aNWwkZYujCIs&refer=home

The documentary is based on a book by Peter Lance that's coming out next month. However, Lance has distanced himself from the documentary because National Geographic (now majority owned by Fox News) greatly watered down his criticisms of the FBI. Still, it should have some very interesting material.

I haven't seen it yet, but keep in mind what it shows about Patrick Fitzgerald. Remember him, the source of Fitzmas hope for liberals everywhere? At least in Lance's book, he is shown to be a cover up artist, refusing to pursue cases in disturbing directions. I'm not sure how much of that will get in the watered down documentary, but after you read the book one can see why Fitzgerald was appointed to prosecute the Valerie Plame case.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:21 PM
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1. Watered down, or not, I'm watching - thanks for the reminder
:thumbsup:
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:31 PM
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2. Fitzpatrick's fellow prosecitor was Michael Cherthoff
How about them apples?
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:25 PM
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14. Fitzgerald.
A common mistake.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:33 PM
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3. National Geographic is owned by Fox, Newscorp? The channel and
the magazine or just the channel? Is this a recent development?
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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:45 PM
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4. Not sure
Someone posted it in another thread about this documentary, but I believe it's just the channel and not the magazine. And it's a recent development.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:48 PM
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7. ty
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:47 PM
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5. From its inception in the US NG channel has been a joint venture between
National Geographic TV and Fox. Fox owns 70% of the channel in the US. Internationally the NG channel is a joint venture between NG TV, Fox and NBC.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:49 PM
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8. thanks for clearing that up for me, i love the magazine and i'd hate
the thought the Rupert owned any of it.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:53 PM
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11. Read about the story, the writer and NGC here:
Edited on Mon Aug-28-06 09:57 PM by IChing

I had a post on the story last week where the show tonight was described by some like Hitler's view of Schindler's list. Read the whole story I just snipped for copywrite rules

Another 9/11 Coverup in the Making?

The revelations, says Lance, proved "too hot to handle" for the National Geographic Channel, which is two-thirds owned by Rupert Murdoch's NewsCorp (which also owns Lance's publisher, HarperCollins). "The Feds have gotten to them, there is no doubt," Lance told me in an interview. "National Geographic has abandoned the truth and acquiesced to pressure from the government."

Television critic Glenn Garvin first reported the flap in a Miami Herald piece that characterized Lance's reaction to the program as a "watered-down whitewash" that was "like doing 'Schindler's List' from Hitler's perspective.''

Able Danger insiders had figured the documentary to be controversial, but no one expected open warfare to break out between Lance and his broadcasters prior to its airing. Lance, who was originally slated to narrate the film, is so angry at what he sees as the program's shift in direction and emphasis that he now refuses to back it at all.

At least one source interviewed for the documentary -- House Armed Services Committee vice chairman Curt Weldon, who has spearheaded congressional efforts to get to the bottom of the Able Danger affair -- has asked to be removed from the program. "We didn't think National Geographic was doing a 100 percent job," says Weldon's chief of staff, Russ Caso. "We felt we weren't looking at an unbiased piece.'' And National Geographic's producers now won't even let Lance see the final cut unless he signs what they call a "nondisparagement agreement.''

LINK:
http://alternet.org/mediaculture/40693/
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:02 PM
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12. than you kindly, a print worthy read.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:47 PM
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6. Wasn't the Natl Geographic show free in the old days? If it's connected
to Fox, we may never see it on Link or FSTV?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:52 PM
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9. This Fitzgerald inference is amazing. Haven't we been told by many
how unbiased and dogged Fotzgerald is. Many people gave testimony. The message has been that we should trust him and that he is trustworthy.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:09 PM
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13. Yes, that unified and loud support for Fitzgerald from all sides
when he was first announced really got my attention. Everyone...Dems and Pubs...were in lockstep about his selection and all the papers were repeating the same story about his merits. That was when I decided to try and dig up info on him.........and it wasn't pretty or reassuring. Something about it stinks.
Here is my post from back then with the info I dug up. Don't know if the links are still good.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=973585
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:53 PM
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10. So there is a very established link between bin Laden and the U.S.
Gevernment?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 08:10 PM
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15. kick
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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 08:31 PM
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16. Important info!
Peter Lance has just posted something at the Huffington Post explaining how the documentary turned into a whitewash:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-lance/triple-cross-nat-geo-cha_b_28270.html

He explains in some detail about Patrick Fitzgerald's complicity there. Note how Lance reveals that Fitzgerald actually HAD DINNER with Ali Mohamed twice in 1997, and during those meetings Mohamed confessed point blank to all kinds of amazing criminal things. Ali Mohamed talked about being connected to hudreds of al-Qaeda agents and even gave strong hints about the upcoming embassy bombings in Africa. He said he loved bin Laden and was at war with the US. After the meeting, Fitzgerald called Ali Mohamed "the most dangerous man" he'd "ever met" and announced that "we cannot let this man out on the street." But Mohamed continued to live and plot undisturbed in Santa Clara, California for another year, until after the embassy bombings!

Then on October 21, 2003, Fitzgerald said the following under oath before the Senate Judiciary Committee. He's talking about the "wall" - the gap between intelligence agents and prosecutors - but he totally lies about his own past with Ali Mohamed. There's no mention of his meetings with Ali Mohamed or that he'd been very familiar with what Ali Mohamed had been up to going back to at least 1995. He blatantly lies under oath:


Let me review some examples of how the wall played out. On August 1998, al Qaeda struck at the American embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, nearly simultaneously killing 224 people. The team of FBI agents and prosecutors, which had obtained a sealed indictment of Bin Laden two months earlier, deployed to East Africa and almost immediately learned of al Qaeda's involvement and arrested two bombers in Nairobi. One month later, in September 1998, a man named Ali Mohamed was questioned before a federal grand jury in Manhattan. Ali Mohamed, a California resident, had become a United States citizen in 1989 after serving in the United States Army from 1986. Ali Mohamed lied in that grand jury proceeding and left the courthouse to go to his hotel, followed by FBI agents, but not under arrest. He had imminent plans to fly to Egypt. It was believed at the time that Mohamed lied and that he was involved with the al Qaeda network but Mohamed had not by then been tied to the bombings.

The decision had to be made at that moment whether to charge Mohamed with false statements. If not, Mohamed would leave the country. That difficult decision had to be made without knowing or reviewing the intelligence information on the other side of the "wall." It was ultimately decided to arrest Mohamed that night in his hotel room. As described below, the team got lucky but we never should have had to rely on luck. The prosecution team later obtained access to the intelligence information, including documents obtained from an earlier search of Mohamed's home by the intelligence team on the other side of "the wall." Those documents included direct written communications with al Qaeda members and a library of al Qaeda training materials that would have made the decision far less difficult. (We could only obtain that access after the arrest with the specific permission of the Attorney General of the United States, based upon the fact that we had obligations to provide the defendant with discovery materials and because the intelligence investigation of Mohamed had effectively ended.) The criminal case gathered additional evidence through further investigation.

Mohamed later pleaded guilty in federal court admitting that he was a top trainer to the leadership of al Qaeda and Egyptian Islamic Jihad, and that he had participated in the surveillance of a number of overseas American targets, including the American embassy in Nairobi, Kenya, and had later shown the sketches of that embassy to Bin Laden himself. Mohamed admitted he had trained some of the persons in New York who had been responsible for the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Mohamed stated that had he not been arrested on that day in September 1998, he had intended to travel to Afghanistan to rejoin Usama Bin Laden. Thus, while the right decision to arrest was made partly in the dark, the "wall" could easily have caused a different decision that September evening that would have allowed a key player in the al Qaeda network to escape justice for the embassy bombing in Kenya and rejoin Usama Bin Laden in a cave in Afghanistan, instead of going to federal prison.

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So Fitzgerald is finally exposed as a cover up artist and an extremely dishonest prosecutor. A lot more damning information about how Fitzgerald mishandled al-Qaeda investigations will come out in Lance's new book. No wonder Karl Rove and others were never charged in the Valerie Plame case!
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