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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:08 PM
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Radio Lady Seeks Your Ideas: What should we do for Monday, Sept 11, 2006?
Edited on Mon Aug-28-06 09:17 PM by Radio_Lady


It will be the fifth anniversary of the attacks on the World Trade Center.

There appears to be no national effort to remember what happened on that anniversary day.

In late 2001, politicians talked about making this date a memorial holiday. However, I predicted that the proximity to Labor Day would preclude that effort. I believe I've been proved right, unless you know of individuals or groups planning any events.

This year, Labor Day falls on the previous Monday, September 4, 2006. So we are left with difficult memories a week later, on a fall Monday when most people will be at work.

I brought up this topic a few weeks ago, but the thread is now archived.

See this link.

Hope I can revisit your ideas again without risk of breaking any rules. Perhaps there will be people who have other thoughts now that we are closer to the date.

Thank you in advance for your involvement.

Radio_Lady in Oregon
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:10 PM
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1. Remind people that Osama, the mastermind, is still at large
despite the Bush White House claim that they are fighting terrorism.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:15 PM
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14. Yeh....he is still at large in the
West Wing
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Gatchaman Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:11 PM
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2. Go to work
Don't be afraid.

Wear something blue :)
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 09:56 AM
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32. Blue it is. (PHOTO)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:13 PM
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3. Ask over and over again why Bushler let Bin Laden get away with it, and
why he let it happen in the first place, especially since he commands the most powerful military on Earth.


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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:14 PM
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4. I think a moment of silence for each of the towers
bracketed and then separated by some appropriate classical music would let each listener reflect on his or her own.

i.e.,
music
silence
music
silence
music
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 07:38 AM
Response to Reply #4
25. Brahms Requiem
It is tremendously moving, especially if you are grieving (I know from personal experience).
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 09:57 AM
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33. Thank you, CTyankee. That piece is one of my favorites.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:18 PM
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5. I will probably
do what I have done every 9/11... sob my eyes out over our collective loss of lives, faith and country.

Doing something more constructive would be welcome!
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:19 PM
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6. Oh. I forgot
I also signed up to go to a breakfast that morning where Denny Hastert will speak. Am I a glutton for punishment or what?
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 09:58 AM
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34. I wonder if he will have hecklers at the breakfast.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #34
66. As I will be there for work
and this is a very red county, I will not be one of them. I will be biting my tongue and attempting not to glare or sputter derisively. I have never done this before - hope I can do it.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:16 PM
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70. Oh, you'll be working. My goodness! I'll recognize you by the...
Edited on Tue Aug-29-06 03:16 PM by Radio_Lady
steam coming out of your ears.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 06:14 PM
Response to Reply #70
72. That would be me - a few more hairs but
that is the face I will be struggling to control!
:rofl:
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:25 PM
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7. Charlotte, NC business plans a memorial: Project 9/11: Raising Monies...
Edited on Mon Aug-28-06 09:26 PM by Radio_Lady
From Business Wire: http://www.businesswire.com

Shane's Rib Shack Observes 9/11 Anniversary and Honors Firefighters
--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Shane's Rib Shack
WHAT: Shane's Rib Shack Observes 9/11 Anniversary and Honors Firefighters

--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Shane's Rib Shack
WHAT: Project 9/11: Raising Awareness and Monies for Our
Nation's Firefighters

On the fifth anniversary of the September 11 terrorist
attack, Shane's Rib Shack of Charlotte will observe the
day by raising funds for two firefighter programs: the
Uniformed Firefighters Association of Greater New York
Widows' and Children's Fund and the Charlotte Firefighters
Association Benevolent Fund.

The Widows' and Children's Fund provides monetary support
to families of New York City firefighters who lost their
lives in the line of duty, and the Benevolent Fund is
designed to assist Charlotte firefighters and their
families during times of sickness and death.

It is the goal of Craig Willers, son of a retired New York
City Firefighter and owner of Shane's in Charlotte, to
emphasize the great, day-to-day sacrifice made by our
nation's firefighters and to raise funds for these two
programs.

Shane's has these activities planned:

-- Monday, September 11 - Shane's will donate 10% of its
sales to the Widows' and Children's Fund

-- Monday, September 11 - Sunday, September 17

-- Shane's will sell New York Fire Department
t-shirts and donate $5 to the Widows' and
Children's Fund for every t-shirt sold

-- Shane's will sell Charlotte Firefighters
Association t-shirts and donate $5 to the
association's Benevolent Fund for every t-shirt
sold.

-- Shane's will collect contributions for the Widows'
and Children's Fund and the Benevolent Fund

WHEN: September 11 - 17, 2006

WHERE: Shane's Rib Shack
440 East McCullough Drive, at the Grande Promenade
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:26 PM
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8. Don't watch any news channels
nt.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 10:18 AM
Response to Reply #8
42. Can we congregate here instead? I'm sure there will be some emotional
posts! After all, it's a workday.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:27 PM
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9. 9/11= maybe not the day democracy died...
but the day we buried it.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 09:59 AM
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36. I'm still optimistic -- it was a wake-up call for this nation.
How we handle security in the future is still in flux.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:32 PM
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10. New York TV channel sponsors Town Hall Meetings
Original link: http://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/index.jsp?stid=203&aid=62136

WTC Coverage from NY1

August 28, 2006

With the approach of the fifth anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks, NY1 will host four town hall meetings focusing on several of the lasting issues from that day.

New Yorkers are invited to join NY1 next week at Pace University's downtown campus for a series of live, televised events. To attend, RSVP by logging on to www.pace.edu or by calling (212) 379-3447.

On Tuesday, September 5, "The Call" anchor John Schiumo will host a discussion on rebuilding the World Trade Center site. Scheduled panelists include Master Planner Daniel Libeskind, Memorial Designer Michael Arad, LMDC Chairman Kevin Rampe and Governor George Pataki's Chief of Staff John Cahill.

On Wednesday, September 6, NY1 anchor Kristen Shaughnessy will host a discussion on continuing concerns over the health of residents and responders. Scheduled panelists include attorney David Worby, who represents thousands of ailing responders; Dr. Jacqueline Moline from Mount Sinai Medical Center; Dr. Kamau Kokayi from the Olive Leaf Wellness Center; and Gerald Markowitz, co-author of "Are We Ready? Public Health Since 9/11."

On Thursday, September 7, NY1 reporter Budd Mishkin will host a discussion on the fine line between effective policing and violating civil rights. Scheduled panelists include the former NYCLU Director Norman Siegel and Mohammad Razvi, Executive Director of the Council of Peoples Organization.

Finally, on Friday, September 8, NY1 anchor Roma Torre will host a discussion on the popular arts and 9/11. Scheduled panelists include Oskar Eustis, the Artistic Director of The Public Theatre; John Hoffman, the Vice President of Documentaries at HBO; Catharine Stimpson, NYU Dean of the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences; and David Friend, Vanity Fair's editor of creative development and author of "Watching The World Change: The Stories Behind The Images Of 9/11."



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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:44 PM
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12. Ted Koppel on Discovery will explore the price of security
August 28th, 2006

From: RealityTVWebsite.com
Link is: http://www.realitytvwebsite.com/news082806d.html



Discovery Channel Announces KOPPEL ON DISCOVERY: THE PRICE OF SECURITY

Ted Koppel begins his groundbreaking Discovery Channel series, KOPPEL ON DISCOVERY, with a three-hour primetime special on the eve of the fifth anniversary of September 11. Koppel′s world premiere, THE PRICE OF SECURITY, uses interviews with current and former administration members, military and security experts to explore the dilemma the government faces in the war on terrorism.

On the one hand, it has national security as its first obligation and has been criticized for not "connecting the dots." At the same time, the government is being assailed by civillibertarians for undermining the freedoms on which the United States was founded.

Following the 8 p.m. ET/PT broadcast of KOPPEL ON DISCOVERY: THE PRICE OF SECURITY, Koppel will host a live town meeting in Washington, DC with 9/11 family members, civil libertarians, Administration officials and Members of Congress from 9:30 - 11 p.m. ET/PT. The town meeting will involve not only people in the audience, but also people at home. Viewers will be given the opportunity to have their own questions answered by the experts via discoverychannel.com.

Koppel explores the growth in the technology that makes it possible to collect and sort through detailed personal data. Commercial interests now track buying and travel habits, personal tastes, and reading habits through credit card data and Internet usage. The broadcast examines the debate over whether there should be limits on how that information can be used by law enforcement to preempt terrorist attacks.

For his second Discovery Channel special later this fall, 27 years after American hostages were seized in Tehran, Koppel plans to take viewers back to the subject of Iran. He looks at the historical reasons for Iranians′ suspicions and for their support of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad′s refusal to halt Iran′s nuclear program. He also intends to explore Iranians′ perspectives on Iraq, Afghanistan and Israel.


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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:34 PM
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11. Talk about the BOMBING 8 years prior.
The warnings:
The rhetoric: CLINTON: ... I will find and convict???
The search: Found a part of .. something.
The trial:
The anti-terrorism requests of Congress: Dems propose it. Republicans were too busy.
The candidacy: Trying to hit a camel in the butt, an empty tent in a desert.
Hart\Rudman: Cabinet position. Clinton had a stronger model: meet three times a week. Bush/Cheney had a weaker than Hart/Rud idea -- nothing but wait tick tick wait tick tick BOOM.
CONNECTION: The sentencing was set for 9/11/01 in New York City.

Why did Clinton say they hate us.
Bush says it's our freedoms.
The two might have differed.

Have fun.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:52 PM
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13. Frankly, I can't handle "going back there" to that day.
Edited on Mon Aug-28-06 09:52 PM by Ilsa
I'm in Texas, but my husband was on the east coast. I had him extend his car rental and get some cash. I took my oldest to school and watched as much news as I could until I was sufficiently traumatized and couldn't sleep all week. It felt like loose souls were haunting us.

I know some other women who feel the same way. They don't want to be disrespectful, but they don't want to participate in all of the hype on TV about it.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 12:58 AM
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18. I understand. I haven't been able to view either movie "United 93"
Edited on Tue Aug-29-06 01:00 AM by Radio_Lady
or "World Trade Center." I did see the television show "Flight 93" and had a hard time with that one. I won't be watching television coverage that day, either. It's just too fresh even now.

We've been to Ground Zero twice -- once in November 2001 on a pre-planned trip, and again last May 2006 to see what is happening.

I used to live in Manhattan in 1962 to 1969; my husband's mother was born in Brooklyn, NY and he visited her family a good deal while growing up in Boston.

I have a stepson who was born on September 11, 1958. That's pretty tough for him now.

Thanks for your comments.







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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:50 AM
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57. I'm going to avoid the crap on TV like the plague.
I sing in a choir that performs a requiem every year on 9/11. It's not a big whoop-de-do thing -- the first year, we simply sang in a lobby and whoever wandered by was welcome. I was amazed by how many people passing through stayed to listen and how touched they were by it. The last few years, we've done it an adjacent concert hall so there's enough seating for everyone. I resent the exploitation on TV, but doing the different requiems has been a low-key way for me to deal with the anniversaries.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:06 PM
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62. You'll be singing in a choir -- what a beautiful answer!
Is there a link to that event, in case someone wants to attend?
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 01:52 PM
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75. I haven't found one yet.
it'll be in Houston, at the Shepherd School of Music on the campus of Rice University at noon on 9/11. Admission is free but parking isn't. This year's requiem is the one by Gabriel Faure, one of my personal favorites, although Brahams' German Requiem will always hold a special place in my heart.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:24 PM
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15. Introduce Articles of Impeachment for Bush and Cheney
That would be a fitting tribute.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 07:55 AM
Response to Reply #15
28. that would be a start, to get these thugs out of office
I would love to wipe those smirks off Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld's faces, and Alberto Gonsalves.
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:32 PM
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16. Follow the money-who made money on Wall Street, who profited after nt
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 10:03 AM
Response to Reply #16
38. Still hoping that comes to fruition -- but it will have to be under...
another administration.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:49 PM
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17. I will light a candle from the minute I get up until I go to sleep.
Maybe DU could provide us with an avatar of a glowing candle for the day?
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:05 AM
Response to Reply #17
19. Great idea. Want to ask Skinner about doing that?
A candle of remembrance. I would even donate some money for that.



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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:11 AM
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20. There is a web site where you can light a candle. It's called:
Edited on Tue Aug-29-06 01:15 AM by Radio_Lady
http://www.gratefulness.org/

Someone suggested it when I revealed that my ex-husband has terminal cancer.

They claim they can even help a webmaster build candles into a web site.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/custom.cfm?l=eng



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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:18 AM
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21. Here's a page with state-by-state activities:
Edited on Tue Aug-29-06 01:22 AM by Radio_Lady
http://www.familiesofseptember11.org/commemoration.aspx

There are many multi-state or national events.

Many states are covered in the list.

Lots of commemorative activities, especially New York, California, Pennsylvania.

I urge you to look at it.

Thanks,

Radio_Lady
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:36 AM
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22. Play the seven minutes of video
showing urine face unable to get his feet to work after he's told the country is under attack. Put it on every news channel and just play it over and over on a loop.

Show the great decider in action. The only thing that could make it better is split screen him sitting there on half the screen and the tower collapsing on the other.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 10:04 AM
Response to Reply #22
39. Maybe on local access TV -- don't think you will see it on cable or
network TV.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:39 AM
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23. I have an idea - we can start by not calling it "9/11" anymore.
Numbers are emotionless, factile labeling tools. We failed to label an event such as this with proper words, and therefore, I believe we failed to place the event in proper historical perspective.

On September 11, 2001, nineteen individuals hijacked four domestic US aircraft, using them as missiles. More than 3,500 individuals died in collisions with the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and in a field in Pennsylvania. These were terror attacks by Muslim extremists who were angry with Western presence in Saudi Arabia during the first Gulf War. They murdered innocent civilians, and we shall never forget. This day should always be known as the 2001 Terror Attacks - a name for the event, not an emotionless number. The actual date should pass as any other day - because that's precisely the type of resolve that Bush has failed to provide - a mature snubbing of what those men tried to do. Not the pompous, bombastic foreign policy he has pieced together, which breaks apart by the day.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 10:02 AM
Response to Reply #23
37. Many people still talk about "the attack on the World Trade Center"
but, you're right. It's still commonly seen as a date-oriented event. I think that it's been drilled into us.

Also, 911 still has the meaning of "an emergency" due to the assignment of these numbers in most areas. I think that's part of it.

What else could we call it?

Thanks for your comments.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 06:08 AM
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24. It is not healthy to make a holiday out of such a negative thing
What can you be thinking of?

That would permanently enable the right wing idiots, too.

We are reminded of 911 every day. We don't need more 911 exploitation.

We need to get on with our lives at some point. Geez.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 10:13 AM
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40. I understand your point. However, the people who were impacted
Edited on Tue Aug-29-06 10:15 AM by Radio_Lady
are still quite active, especially in helping to decide what kind of memorial site this should be. (SEE PHOTOS IN POSTS ABOVE.)

Who should decide when we "move on"? People still remember December 7, 1941, the date of the attack on Pearl Harbor, and thousands of people from all over the world make the trek to Hawaii to view the monument over the USS Arizona.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Pearl_Harbor

Do you remember that date? I don't know how old you are, but I was only two years old at the time, but I recall my parents discussing it during WWII. I think young people will have to cover this subject in history classes in the coming decades.

Of course, you're right -- there were only a few suggestions at the time about making another memorial day out of 9/11. That time passed quickly as we all absorbed the event itself. But this horrendous act will be in people's consciousness for a long time. In my opinion, that is how it should be.

Thank you for your comments.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 07:43 AM
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26. Write LTTEs ahead of time
and in your letters nail that bastid Bush for everything he DIDN'T do but could have done to prevent 9/11. William Pitt's excellent journal piece on this a week or so ago is a good research tool.

The best way to remember that day is to make sure these bums are thrown out of office, so they can never, ever again cause harm to the American people.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 10:45 AM
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49. Good post! Thanks for your thoughts.
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 07:53 AM
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27. Personally
I will observe it the same way I have each year. Four minutes of silence and reflection.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 10:17 AM
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41. Thank you, Ohio Joe. Question: why did you choose FOUR minutes exactly?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 10:21 AM
Response to Reply #41
44. One minute per airplane.
:shrug: Just guessing.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 10:41 AM
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46. Thanks, TahitiNut. That's pretty logical. Appreciate your chiming in!
How's everything with you? Planning anything special for the Labor Day weekend?



This is an interesting web site:

Labor Day History

When is Labor Day? Labor Day is an American National holiday that takes place the first Monday of September. Some call it is the unofficial end to summer. Labor Day's true meaning is to honor the everyday working people. The people whose sweat build and maintain the heart of United States. Today Labor Day is as normal as baseball, apple pie and fireworks on the fourth of July, but this was not always so.

In 19th century America, the industrial revolution was in full bloom, and people were needed en masse to feed the machines of mass production. Millions responded, coming from the farms by the promise of the American dream, a trust in the commonwealth. The people wanted a secure year-round income in an environment sheltered from the often harsh elements. What they found was a life toiling twelve and fourteen hours a day in dingy and sometimes dangerous conditions in factories and underground mines.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:26 AM
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56. IMHO, every day should be "Labor Day"
Of all the increasing problems we're seeing in this nation in the last 30 years, the subordination and disrespect for labor is, imho, the worst of all. Labor is demeaned but the 'ownership' of labor is afforded entitlements not seen since the Age of Robber Barins. Income from one's own labor (wages and salaries) is taxed at more than DOUBLE the rates than income from the labor of others (dividends and capital gains). People with labor income in the lowest 80% have been raped and pillaged over the last 25 years. Unemployment insurance, once a reasonable bridge sufficient to sustain a family, is becoming a joke - and the assessments against businesses causing the greatest unemployment through layoffs and off-shoring have dwindled to virtually nothing,

We've been importing and creating (ex-felons) a larger and larger NON-VOTING "labor force" for about 20 years. As more and more people who must labor to survive are disenfranchised, we get closer and closer to antebellum "labor policies."

What economic difference is there between "importing" labor from Africa aboard slave ships and "importing" labor from a neighboring country with an economy that oppresses and impoverished 50% of its people? At least the 'employers' paid for the transportation of slaves. (Yes, I'm being heavily sarcastic.)



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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #56
60. Thanks for your thoughtful reply. What should I say? My husband...
is assembling over-the-commode shelving for our bathroom.

Can you guess where it was made? China, of course, where labor is cheaper and employers can do whatever they want to their laboring hordes. Makes me sick.

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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:06 AM
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55. Yes, TN is correct, one for each plane
It was a difficult day for everyone and I'm not sure why or how I decided on remembering it that way but it is.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:04 PM
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61. I think you have chosen an excellent way to remember.
Edited on Tue Aug-29-06 01:05 PM by Radio_Lady


Thanks for your post.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 07:56 AM
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29. Frankly, the less done the better, IMO
The Media and the Freeper Media will be having an orgy of rememberance and will try to revive that Post 9-11 Anxiety and Blind Worship of Power.

I say the best way to commemoratye 9-11 is to get on with life
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 07:57 AM
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30. I would do the show on how Bush ignored all the warnings! eom
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 10:52 AM
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53. "Googling" "what Bush knew about 9/11 before it happened" --
gets a lot of hits.

However, these theories are barred from "General Discussion," and religated to the 9/11 forum.

Thanks for your post, B Calm. I like that screen name!
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 08:34 AM
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31. Kicked for Tuesday morning folks. Your responses are welcome.
I plan to use some of them on my pre-recorded program to air September 11.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 09:59 AM
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35. Explore the theories of LIHOP and MIHOP
People are finally starting to wake up and question the official story. The shock has worn off, and fear is waning. Perhaps it is time for a real investigation into these matters:shrug:
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 10:47 AM
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50. Official explanation of these acronyms might help...
Acronym Definition
LIHOP Let It Happen on Purpose

Acronym Definition
MIHOP Made It Happen on Purpose (9/11 attack conspiracy theory)
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 10:20 AM
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43. My suggestions for "thoughtful themes" ...
"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." - How does a nation 'win' a "War on Terrorism"? By being afraid? By surrendering liberties and letting fear rule? By spreading fear? It seems to me that we've faced more serious challenges in the past and done far better. WHy not now? What's different? Are we still the land of the free and home of the brave? Or have we surrendered our freedom and become the home of the cowards?

Is our nation better prepared today than on September 10, 2001? - Are we better able to prevent mass murders? We've "invested" billions and sacrificed our treasure and our blood - for what? Are we better able to recover from an attack? (We still haven't recovered from Katrina or Rita.)

Where's justice? - Where's Osama? Who committed the anthrax killings? Are we reduced to selecting scapegoats and abandoning any pretense of evidence, proof, and a fair, prompt trial? How can we deal with a national problem if we're so ignorant?

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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 10:48 AM
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52. Great post... recommended reading. Again, thanks TN!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 10:23 AM
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45. I know this might sound a little sophomoric but...
Last weekend I saw the movie "V for Vendetta." I thought how the "V" symbol could be used against the present day cabal of neo-con fascists. After all, as much as I dislike it, Americans seem to respond to symbols in entertainment moreso than any other avenue of communication, and, leaving that debate to another day, we could use the symbol used in the movie.

For example:
What if that symbol began appearing in public places? Now, I'm not advocating the use of vandalism or trespassing to relay a message, but if more and more Americans wore the "red 'V' inside a circle" (see image below) as buttons, bumper stickers, t-shirts, etc. etc., then we could use the power of the entertainment media to get the political point across that we are living in conditions depicted in the movie: a neo-con fascist mob in DC using fear and violence as a weapon against the American people in order to suppress civil liberties and wreck havoc on the US Constitution, in an attempt to seize supreme power.

I'm sure the symbol would be recognizable my many as I believe many people have seen the movie. On the surface it would be a kind of pop-culture fashion statement, but it's deeper meaning would be understood by coutless Americans.



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MadJohnShaft Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 10:43 AM
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47. Politicizing it seems to open it to a backfire, no?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 10:44 AM
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48. 911 truth movement. Why do 1 in 3 Americans think 911 was an inside job?
Edited on Tue Aug-29-06 10:44 AM by Joanne98
Be radical! Be bold! Get big ratings.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 10:48 AM
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51. How about a reading of My Pet Goat with ...
the sounds of the planes hitting the towers and news reports and 911 calls dubbed in background.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:10 PM
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64. Well, check with your local program managers to see if they'll go for it.
:sarcasm:
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 10:56 AM
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54. When I discuss 9-11 with people who are just starting to question it
I try to focus on the failure of leadership that occurred that day.

I can see one person, like Bush, not responding appropriately, but not every single one of them?

All of them Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Myers, Wolfowitz, Rice, all of them sat on their hands and watch the attack while it was in progress on TV. Not a single one lifted a finger to respond to the attack until after the Pentagon was hit.

(If you would like more info, quotes, citations, etc. I'd be happy to provide them.)

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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 01:19 AM
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77. I appreciate your comments. They are all in this together... I believe.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:57 AM
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58. Take the stairs instead of the elevators
in memory of those firefighters and first responders who climbed the stairs in an effort to rescue people in the Towers. Do it in memory of those who had to climb down the stairs to escape before the Towers collapsed. Do it in memory of those who were trapped on the stairs and died on them.

It's not loud or flashy. Just something that you can do yourself.

Climb the stairs. I've done it to mark the anniversary. It's hardly enough in the grand scheme of things but it helps me to remember the personal sacrifices and the overwhelming losses.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:09 PM
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63. Good thought. I always use the stairs for most buildings anyway.
It's good aerobics for my heart and also, I'm kind of claustrophobic in elevators.

But you've given us a new reason to use the stairs. Thanks so much for posting this.

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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 02:44 PM
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69. No - thank you for your post
No matter what we do, it's always going to be a rough day for reasons over and above the obvious tragedy.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 12:01 PM
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59. Take a few minutes to remember the 2,967 people who lost their
lives on that fateful morning.

Nothing more and nothing less.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:11 PM
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65. Sounds good to me.
That's what we did when we visited Ground Zero in May 2006.

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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 02:06 PM
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67. Do you have any pictures?
I used to work in the World Financial Center in NYC and have not been in the city since January 2004.

Thanks
MIM

:hi:
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 02:37 PM
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68. Go to my original invitation to view our New York photos.
Edited on Tue Aug-29-06 02:44 PM by Radio_Lady
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=5279932

Follow the instructions -- I'll try to give you some of the photo numbers.

ON EDIT: My husband has they pretty well arranged. Look at the names of the thumbnails -- you're looking for Ground Zero pictures.

I share two or three upthread if you want to look there. This is the first one in the series.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/551422106/2752623990092771109SKrDtJ

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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:19 PM
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71. Impeach Cheney first (n/t)
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 09:42 PM
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73. NYC calendar: St. Paul's Chapel planning events near the WTC site.
Edited on Tue Aug-29-06 09:47 PM by Radio_Lady
This is the small church that was used during the recovery after the 9/11 attacks. They maintain a vibrant memorial of the events on September 11. Regrettably, I did not have the camera on the day I visited, but found myself moved and comforted by what I saw.



"Unwavering Spirit: Hope & Healing at Ground Zero"
Located directly across from the World Trade Center site, St. Paul's Chapel, an Episcopal church, was home to an extraordinary eight-month volunteer relief effort after the terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001. Unwavering Spirit, a new interactive exhibit, honors that ministry and its legacy of love and compassion.

Link to their web site:

http://www.saintpaulschapel.org/

9/11/06
One World, One Hope! Schedule of services and events inside.
Full schedule is hyperlinked at their site (above)
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 09:09 AM
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74. Any chance we can keep this kicked through this week and the Labor Day
weekend?

Thanks a bunch!
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 01:17 AM
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76. Ground Zero collage from 2001... (PHOTOS)
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