My Brother Veteran and friend Max Cleland seeks treatment PTSD

[Monkeyman]

Washington -Former U.S Sen. Max Cleland,who has battled bouts of depression since losing three limbs in Vietnam,Is being treated for PTSD.
http://www.vawatchdog.org

I have known Max for six years now. I met him during the Kerry run in 2004. Max is having a hard time like a lot of us veterans.We see news from Iraq and it is triggering night dreams again.Since this war began Vietnam vets have been seeking treatment for PTSD.

War never leave you. But when you see a War that was started with lies it hurt even more. We know these kids are going to be treated like dirt when they come home. Under this President we have lost more and more of our benefits. Max like me are still angry about a defeat to Kerry caused by liars called the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. We are no longer being held back. We will fight these new swift boat veterans.

Max in my heart and mind get better soon we need you out here

[rosesaylavee]

1. Earlier today there was a thread

suggesting that we send Max flowers to show him our appreciation. Would you know how to get them to him if someone were to take this on?

[blm]

6. Check in the Kerry forum - Max still works with Kerry.

They would know the best way to get it to him.

[rosesaylavee]

7. Will do. Thanks.

[NaturalHigh]

2. Best wishes to Mr. Cleland.

I am also a veteran, but I can't even begin to imagine the horrors he has experienced.

[blm]

3. Peace to you, Max - we NEED you dear patriot.

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[Iris]

4. Best to Mr. Cleland.

I'm from Georgia and I miss having him as my representative.

[MissWaverly]

5. Tell him for me that he is my hero

this is a lot of tough talk nowadays but he is the real deal, he did a lot for this country
both in Nam and in DC. If we can get this current crop of chickenhawks out of office, I hope
that we can send him back to DC where he belongs. He represents everything that's good about
this country. Tell him not to give up, we the American people have not forgotten him.

Miss Waverly

:-)

I pray every night for this country, my best friend's son has been called to fight over in Baghdad, he is 55 and in the National Guard. She is 81, a widow and has no other family.
I pray that we get some sense and real leadership in this country to handle these terrible
problems that we have.

[mopinko]

8. i posted in the other thread, but i repost here cuz monkeyman

is the guy who would know. what do the guys in the va hospitals right now need? batteries, chewing gum, porn, what? we know if we send a bunch to max, it will get where it is needed.

[Monkeyman]

10. Right now Max need his time to recover I will send this to him

With all of your Hopes for him. I miss the hugs he gives. We need him in Oct. to fight for Murtha

[MissWaverly]

15. thank you, Monkeyman

the posts can help, I was so down after the 04 election, and all I heard on Tv was blah, blah,
blah, get over it. I knew my machine defaulted to Bush 5 times and nobody wanted to listen.
I came here to DU and I read Bleever's thread every night and it helped keep me going during
those dark days. I am sorry that he has had such a hard time since 02, but he's still a
good person and a good at representing his constituents. His time will come again, just
like spring follows winter.

[Penndems]

9. Prayers and love to you, Senator Cleland

:patriot:

My brother-in-law is a Viet Nam War vet. I've seen what it's doing to him. I would imagine Senator Cleland is going through the exact same thing.

[me b zola]

11. I teared up reading this

War never leave you. But when you see a War that was started with lies it hurt even more. We know these kids are going to be treated like dirt when they come home.

I can't imagine the rage and saddness that Max must feel after all that he lost in Vietnam to be treated so badly by those flag waving chickenhawks who are now treating a new generation of vets with disdain.



Be well, Max :hug: :patriot:

[Penndems]

12. Monkeyman, is there a website for the pro-Murtha rally on September 30th?

I did a Google search, and all I got was this crap:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=rally

[Monkeyman]

14. I know we are going in force MO WISC IL OHIO IN

We are coming by bike car van truck no more will we sit back and let good men be swiftboated

[Spiffarino]

20. I see the Swiftboat Liars are going after Murtha

It's good to see what the enemy is up to, but I can't contain the bile that is forming in my throat right now. I wish those miserable bastards nothing but ill.

[bobbolink]

13. My thoughts are with you, Max Cleland!

A true patriot, with the best interests of this nation and it's people in his heart.

I'm so angry that it's the injured, traumatized and hurting people who keep paying the price!

Here's to you, Max! :toast: :hug: :toast:

[Mike03]

16. I love that man

Earlier today I was speaking with my father about how the Iraq war was beginning to trigger veterans of the VietNam War.

When organizations and corporations attempt to calculate the "cost" of the Iraq war, they will now have to factor in the damage it is doing to our beloved Viet Nam Veterans. Bush has now reopened old wounds, and I am so angry I cannot even type the correct words to describe what I am feeling.

I'll just attempt to substitute my absolute HATE towards this administration with absolute LOVE towards those who are suffering under this ungodly oppression.

[nytemare]

17. I met him in '04 as well.

He took time out to talk to me about my experience the first time in Iraq, and I thanked him for standing up for the troops there now.

He was truly a kind spirited man.

I send my best wishes to him.

[Monkeyman]

18. Did he give one of his hugs?

That man gave me Hope again

[nytemare]

21. He sure did!

Such a sweet man.

It pains me to think of the mud he has been dragged through in that election, and since.

[IChing]

19. I had a Vet friend die after repeated episodes of PTSD (new treatment!!!)

He was a medic in Nam and had repeated episodes lapsing for 24 years,
I think it finally shorten his life.
I hope Max the best and that the troops return home soon.

On a brighter note.

I am right now studying a new psychological process and hoped to be trained in it, that has had great 99% success with PTSD treatment of
civilians in Kosovo who had witnessed or experienced rape, torture and witnessing deaths of love ones etc.

The process is called energy psychology.
websites are here:

www.emofree.com
www.EnergyPsychologhyinteractive.com
www.energypsychEd.com
www.handoutbank.org

The book I began with is The Promise of Energy Psychology revolutionary tools for dramatic personal change
by Dr.David Feinstein, Donna Eden, and Gary Craig

[marions ghost]

27. is this like emdr?

can you give a sentence or two of explanation? thanx

[IChing]

28. Not like emdr at all

The process involves building upon conventional therapeutic methods, Energy Psychology utilizes techniques from acupressure, yoga, qi gong, and energy medicine that teach people simple steps for initiating changes in their inner lives. It works by stimulating energy points on the surface of the skin which, when paired with specific psychological procedures, can shift the brain’s electrochemistry(which has been documented) to:

Help Overcome Fear, Guilt, Shame, Jealousy, or Anger
Change Unwanted Habits and Behaviors
Enhance the Ability to Love, Succeed, and Enjoy Life...............

An Academic Abstract of the process is available here, I can't legally cut and paste: http://www.innersource.net/energy_psych/epi_research.htm

The new process has been review by the American Psychological Association, Clinical Psychology, Institute of Noetic Science and The Journal of the Association for Professional Hypnosis & Psychotherapy among others.

[marions ghost]

31. thank you very much for that link

good article. I'm interested in this since I'm very sold on acupuncture. I see the relationship.:)

[Mike03]

22. Querry

Is there some way to reach him and just let him know we love him and support him?

[AnnInLa]

23. I ditto that

any way to send messages of support?

[Monkeyman]

24. Send it here It will get there right away

[e-mail]

[Beelzebud]

25. I wish him well. My thoughts will be with him.

I don't pray, but my sincere thoughts will be with Sen. Cleland.

I hope he can get past this, and keep fighting the good fight for us all.

[DesertRat]

26. I have so much respect for Sen. Cleland

I just saw him on the Bill Mahr show the other night and he was wonderful, as usual. My thoughts and prayers are with him. :patriot:

[DeepModem Mom]

29. Very moving post -- thank you. nt

[hlthe2b]

30. Senator Max.... you have tremendous anonymous support

out here.... Your courage is so inspiring. I send you all the positive thoughts and energy that I can and pray for your emotional support during this very difficult time. Depression is truly debilitating. I can only hope that you will find some of the spirit that has kept the comedic pundit, Art Buchwald going--well past the point where he was told to (and had fully prepared for) death...

Be well, Senator and, I pray, find happiness in your life-- despite the immense difficulties. You are a beloved example to so many...

[rosesaylavee]

32. Update on Max - link here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2005613&mesg_id=2005613