Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

What would happen if foreign forces occupied part of the US?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 08:03 PM
Original message
What would happen if foreign forces occupied part of the US?
I imagine that there would be a 'resistance' movement. And I'm sure there would be cases of extreme brutality against the occupying forces. The American people would not sit by idly while some other country's forces kill their husbands, fathers, and sons. We wouldn't sit by while our wives and daughters are raped by foreign soldiers. And while we may loathe our current president, I daresay that if he were being held illegally (key word being illegally, not having attacked the invading country), that we probably wouldn't be too happy about that either.

So what's so hard to understand about the "insurgency" in Iraq?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 08:06 PM
Response to Original message
1. I asked that once.
Edited on Mon Aug-28-06 08:07 PM by HypnoToad
Everybody responded with anti-* rhetoric.

Must've been a poor choice of words on my part... even when attempting to clarify several times, the counter-argument seemed to be the same. (it merely reflects my poor communications skills.)

:popcorn:


Incidentally, these days, I think Americans wouldn't give a flying fuck. Unless they were able to save themselves, or got a good sale price for it. That's not pessmism, that's reaction from a meeting I was in today. People have forgotten what a community is truly all about.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 08:11 PM
Response to Original message
2. Thats why msm is most responsible ,most people thought we were ..
Edited on Mon Aug-28-06 08:15 PM by orpupilofnature57
going after Satan Hitler and the Doomsday Machine.I would do whatever it took to protect my country,and the only Physical way a person can do that is when their Country is under attack.You can't spread Democracy , you can only Protect it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 08:15 PM
Response to Original message
3. You mean another part than Washington DC?
:shrug:

Red Dawn
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 08:17 PM
Response to Original message
4. Is There A Preaching To The Choir Smiley?
Except for the wouldn't be happy * kidnapped etcetera etcetera
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 08:17 PM
Response to Original message
5. They may already
Edited on Mon Aug-28-06 08:40 PM by Skip Intro
the bush regime surely isn't working on behalf of the American people.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 08:20 PM
Response to Original message
6. Someone Would Try To Sell Them A Condo nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 08:21 PM
Response to Original message
7. Us liberal pacifists would be..........
in the streets fighting from sea to shining sea, while the repubs would be complaining about interruptions to electric, gas, roads, etc.!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
theanarch Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 08:26 PM
Response to Original message
8. i disagree...
...doesn't it all depend on who shows up, where they're taking over and what they then do? If Hezbollah pulled into NOLA with cash, reconstruction teams and a security force to protect the locals from the La. Stasi, i'm not so sure they'd be resisted. If the Cuban military took over a few ghettos and did to them what they did to Cuba, how many will pick up a gun and say "we don't don't free education, health care, meaningful jobs, etc."? And if Venezula took over some bankrupt state (say, like NJ) and offered to pay off its debt and invest in all the people-friendly things our own legislature doesn't, who's going to start building barricades and filling the empty beer bottles with gasoline? On the other hand, if the IDF came here to "Lebanize" Delaware or RI, then there might be some opposition.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 08:28 PM
Response to Original message
9. Probably not a goddamn thing. In some ways we already are.
:grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:25 PM
Response to Original message
10. Well it feels as if a foreign government is occupying Washington
right now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lgn19087 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:29 PM
Response to Original message
11. Good luck to anyone who tries to pacify NE Philly
If it were between northeast philly and a tank division, put your money on philly. Those bastards wouldn't stand a chance :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:42 PM
Response to Original message
12. The freepers would be turning people in.................
as fast as the can.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 11:56 PM
Response to Reply #12
17. Now that I can believe...
Edited on Mon Aug-28-06 11:57 PM by petronius
Despite all the chest-thumping blather about dead lions vs. live dogs, I'd bet there'd be a pretty high proportion of freeper types in service to the 'new masters'.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:43 PM
Response to Original message
13. They do already, Washington DC
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:45 PM
Response to Original message
14. Part of it is that the Insurgency is more complicated than that
Imagine in your scenario if the local John Birch Society Yahoos and the Methodists for Mao decided that the time had finally come to wipe out those Americans who had Betrayed America by having the wrong ideas obout America.

That's sort of what we have in Iraq - they aren't just killing US troops and Iraqi Police Officers (or, if you perfer, American stooges), they are doing a pretty good job of killing each other too.

Oh, and if Bush is a war criminal than Saddam certainly qualifies as well.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:18 PM
Response to Original message
15. We would throw rose petals on them and dance in the streets
That is how Bush and his cronies would expect us to react anyway.

Don
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OldSiouxWarrior Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:29 PM
Response to Original message
16. From time to time I have seen DU threads wishing for someone to invade
and liberate America. I can't use the search function or I would try to find some of the threads to prove that such threads have been posted.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 02:08 AM
Response to Reply #16
18. and, that my friend is said in jest
a majority of the people in this country would not take likely to being occupied. Of course, there will always be some turncoats who would be glad to turn in their neighbor for a few bucks. Hell, we have them now!!! But, if you want to see Americans pull together, just attempt to occupy. It is our responsibility, it is our civic duty, to clean our own house; for true democracy, ideals must be gained, be acquired, sometimes through great sacrifice, within. Hitler sold the German people the story of liberating Poland from its tyrannical government; Bush sold the American people the story of liberating Iraq from its tyrannical regime. However, justice and liberty are not given as a gift by those who occupy someone else's country. Those ideals are gained at great cost by the civilians fighting for change in their own country.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:56 AM
Response to Original message
19. The simple minded (the freepers) have a double standard
They want to believe they are superior on grounds for which they made no effort (where they were born). The expect the rest of the world to recognize it. Insane as is may sound, they actually expect the rest of the world to kowtow to America and expect the iraqis to be grateful for the US occupation and to acknowledge the "wrongness" of opposing what the US says is best for them.

It is this lack of ability to understand human nature that makes them freepers.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 05:07 AM
Response to Original message
20. I've asked the same thing more than once
Freepers can't seem to get it through their skulls that the 'insurgents' are only doing the natural thing any humans would upon having a foreign nation invade their country (particularly illegally). But these fools would denounce the insurgents as evil while simultaneously cheering the "Wolverines" in Red Dawn. :eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 05:08 AM
Response to Original message
21. Would you also
blow up the local market, killing many of your fellow Americans? Just asking.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 06:10 AM
Response to Reply #21
22. If you look at it
as the Freepers being equivalent to the Sunnis (i.e. a minority who are used to having all the power), what do you think the freeper extremists would do?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. Great point!
I personally wouldn't target fellow Americans. But there are plenty of "American" groups out there, ie your right-wing militias, neo-Nazis, KKK, etc that would gladly take advantage of the opportunity to "clean house".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 08:45 AM
Response to Original message
23. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 10:34 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC