CNN "officially" predicting democrats win big in November.

[Atman]

I'm askeered.

Something is very, very wrong. Are we being set up? I'm posting this at about 4:36, and the segment is just about to air on CNN with John King.

But I don't like it. When the CIA Media Center is reporting a takeover of the government by the democrats, my gut reaction is to think it is a set up, to get us all excited before they pull the next big fake attack, so they can say "well, gosh, the dems had it in the bag, but then Al Qaida struck again, and voters ultimately decided to go with the GOP candidates."

Sorry. I trust NOTHING coming from the corporate media.

[WI_DEM]

1. What do you mean "officially reporting" ?

I take nothing for granted especially since the election is over two months away.

[Atman]

6. Just as "official" as Bush's cousin reporting his win in 2000

Official enough to fuck up everything.

[WI_DEM]

9. but what did they say?

"We are officially reporting that the Democrats will make substantial gains in November" or did they report on a poll showing that the democrats are leading?

[Atman]

18. King hasn't done his story yet

Obviously, we're being sucked in to watch until the end of the show. I don't know when the segment is...maybe I missed it it was so short.

[madinmaryland]

2. Get ready for an October Surprise for KKKarl Rove. n/t

[AX10]

3. There is a set-up. Do NOT trust the MSM.

ABC is already pumping up their anti-Clinton Hatchet peice about 9/11.

[ThomWV]

4. A Republican "Get Out The Vote" Scare Tactic

If they think Democrats will win the Republican's will be out in droves.

[rusty charly]

12. Don' wanno be no legislatin' of sin!

[kentuck]

81. Yep...

Reverse the psychology. Predict that the Repubs will win big in November and we will probably get at least two to four more years of their great leadership. If that is not enough to persuade them to stay home, nothing is...

[TheFriedPiper]

5. It's a 'get out the base' move by the Right wing media

The threat of Dems winning keeps the money flowing and the ignorant voters showing up.

More FEAR-mongering from the Gang of Pansies.

[annabanana]

7. This is CNN talk for.. "Ready!. . . Set!. . .

ATTACK!!"

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

89. Exactly. This is an obvious effort to mobolize/energize Rethugs.

[AndyA]

8. The only thing that I think saves us is we're being told that the GOP

is protecting us. No more attacks since 9/11, we're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here, etc. Another attack, and it blows their theory to bits. It would be proof that they aren't protecting us, and CAN'T protect us.

That would cause Americans to lash out for change, which the GOP obviously doesn't want.

I feel the same as you, I don't trust any of them, nor do I trust what they say, but I think if something were to happen, it would destroy every last morsel of credibility the GOP has.

[dogday]

10. It is what they will be saying election

night that worries my ass......

[Beetwasher]

11. 1. Set VERY High Expectations, and 2. Scare the Shit Out Of Repubs

to motivate them to vote.

By setting high/impossible expectations, when the Dems do less, they can report how the Dems fucked up this golden opportunity and are still losers and therefore don't have a mandate.

[Bitter Cup]

13. sounds like a ploy

either innoculating against a win or setting the bar too high deliberately so that anything less can be declaired a victory for the pugs.

[kstewart33]

14. Stop reading this stuff!

The only poll numbers that matter are those on election day. This type of stuff only encourages Dems to get overconfident and lazy.

[Bitter Cup]

15. yup, 2 months is a political lifetime

nt

[MorningGlow]

21. And even the election-night polls don't count

if they don't match the "official" results. "Hey, it looks like the exit polls were WRONG. They're not USUALLY wrong, but...stranger things have happened! Gee whiz!"

Sorry--having '04 flashbacks.

:eyes:

[WCGreen]

16. This is actually important...

The more talk like this in the Main Stream press the more money will flow to the Democratic Party....

And perhaps, as is likely to be the case in Ohio, the money for wacko right wing candidates will dry up...

[samsingh]

45. setting this expectation could also make it impossible to steal

the election

[WCGreen]

49. That too....

But I am more concerned about the money issue and how corporate and labor, especially labor, view the chances of the dem's....

[longship]

17. CNN is reporting it because it is becoming increasingly inevitable.

Remember, no matter who controls the news, journalism is still about beating the other guys to the story. The corporate owners can sell more mortgage ads, more beer ads, more shampoo ads, etc. when they are the first on the block to break a story. CNN is reporting this because they believe it, not because of any nafarious plot.

The one number that I keep coming back to in this November's election is this: Not one current Democratic Party held seat is in serious danger. There are many, many Repuke seats in danger across the spectrum and across the country. There are three House seats in Indiana alone which are likely Dem gains (a *very* conservative state). Perceived moderate Republicans in blue states are likewise in danger (NY, CT, RI, etc). There's no single trend one can pin all this on except for the fact that if you are a Repuke, your seat is in danger.

CNN sees the tsunami coming. So do I. All the Dems have to do is to play their cards right and they have the hand. Stretching the metaphor further, the Dems were dealt "Big Slick" (Ace-King) and have flopped "Ace-Ace-King". With Aces full of Kings, they are holding the absolute nuts. If they don't fold the hand, they will rake in all the chips in November.

I'm calling it seven or eight Senate seats and upwards of fifty House seats for the Dems. I think CNN sees it the same way, although they're not likely to call the numbers yet.

[Atman]

19. I like the way you think!

Thanks. Great post.

[patcox2]

20. Don't jinx it, don't even think about it, its too good.

Oh my god, the very thought, the investigations of the various crimes, the complete control over judicial nominations, the humbling and bringing to heal, if not even the impeachment, of a completely out of control vice president and his puppet of a president.

Oh, think of K-street and the republican takeover of same, the trade associations, the shakeup will hit everything.

Those young arrogant prick republican staffers, the committee staff positions that will disappear and with noone hiring republicans on K-street, it will be beautiful.

[Auntie Bush]

67. You painted such a pretty picture.

Did you know you were an artist?

[AX10]

24. I agree that NO Democrat incumbent will be ousted this fall.

But we must work towards victory this fall. I do NOT trust the MSM's motives.

I believe the Democrats will gain at least 5 Senate seats (net), 25 House seats (net) and
6 Governorships (net).

[longship]

30. Your numbers are based on current info, not trends.

Yes, looking a current polls, I would call it at 5 Senate seats and 20 House seats. This gives us the House and a tie in the Senate (Lieberman and Sanders caucusing with the Dems).

But the situation is not static and it is only going one direction right now. There are zero indications that the Repukes are building support nationwide. The facts are totally the contrary.

We're just now coming to the beginning of the campaign season. If the Dems put out a strong platform message which includes electoral integrity as a major plank, there's no way that the Repukes can turn this around.

The Repukes have literally painted themselves into a corner. They have nothing left in their game. Almost anything they can do works against them.

Another terror attack? How's that gonna work for a party which claims that they can keep us safe?

Another war in Iran (or elsewhere)? How's that gonna work with an electorate which thinks the existing war is wrong?

More dirty politics? How's that gonna work with an electorate which is worn out by dirty politics?

Ah!!! I know...

They've got "Stay the Course!". Right! That's gonna work, too, eh?

[AX10]

57. What about media bias?

[longship]

74. About that media.

The national media can't influence things at the local political level as much as they think they can. They talk in big numbers, big picture with some emphasis on what they perceive to be individual, but big stories.

House races are like Tip O'Neill said, local politics. It's not likely that we'll see the CNN talking heads yapping about Chris Chocola (IN-2), John Sweeney (NY-20), Barbara Cubin (WY-AL), or Rick O'Donnell (CO-7) any time soon. Maybe on election night, but then it will be too late. Instead, they'll focus on races like DeLay's old seat (TX-22) with national interest. Why would the nation want to hear about Rick O'Donnell, anyway? There are dozens of other House races which are in dangerous territory for the GOP, but CNN will not be reporting on any of them, except in the broadest of terms.

So, I just don't see how any national media bias is going to play out in this. I see it as a zero sum game either way. It's the local media, which is far more variable, and more likely to be responsible, who are going to be pulling the heavy load on House races. Remarkably there are many local newspapers and TV stations which take local news reporting seriously. That's where these battles are going to be won or lost.

So, I'm not too worried about the big players here. Fox and CNN just aren't going to be able make a dent in all these dozens of at-risk House districts. There are just damned many of them, not one of them currently held by a Democrat.

The Senate is a different story. But trends are looking good for a majority, maybe six or seven new Dem Senators with zero going the other way. Eight is not out of reach. We've pretty much have five now. It's not a stretch to see VA, TN, AZ, and NV being competitive before Nov (in order of likelihood). If we get all four of those, that would be *nine* new Dem Senators. I don't think we'll get NV, though. But, who knows.

I'm calling upwards of 50 House seats and up to eight Senate seats, with the most likely being six or seven. Anyway you look at it we're likely going to have the majority in both sides, with the House fairly assured. Could we take fifty? I think we could.

But, here's the catch. The Dems have to fight for it. We've been dealt the nuts. If the Dem leadership realizes this, they'll know that they're going to have to play the hand to win.

[deaniac21]

26. L A N D S L I D E ! ! !

[NewJeffCT]

32. wow, you are like my opposite

I'm normally a pessimist, though I do think we'll pick up seats. Even a staunch pessimist like me can see that.

However, I think we'll get 8-10 seats in the House and 3-4 in the Senate. I just can't see both DeWine & Santorum losing.

I see another TERROR RED ALERT on the weekend of Nov 5-6.

I see tens of millions spent in swift boating Sherrod Brown in Ohio, Casey in PA, Ned Lamont in CT, etc. I'm already hearing expensive soft-money radio ads running in CT for one of our vulnerable House Republics.

I see even more desparate ballot measures by Republics to GOTV for fundies - gay marriage, etc.

[longship]

36. I think you've got it wrong about OH and PA Senate

Even the most conservative prognasticators are predicting that both these seats go to the Dems in Nov. They are the *best* chances for the Dems in the Senate.

Trends in both races favor the Dems. Nobody is predicting otherwise.

[warrens]

37. Novakula and Katie O'Bierne were predicting the same yesterday

Two months is a long time, but seriously, what could Bush do by then that would seriously change your opinion? Not a fucking thing, except maybe resign.

[longship]

38. Oh. I entirely concur.

They've painted themselves into the corner.

All their tricks will likely work against them this time. The only thing they have left is "Stay the Course". Like that's gonna work, eh?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

43. Lieberman/Lamont.

It might go from D to "I".

Joe is the escape hatch.

[longship]

75. This is a bell weather race which *will* get national attention.

This is the way I see it panning out.

Lamont is not going to stop his mode or method of campaigning. Joe is not going to either.

Here's the crux of the matter. Lieberman is going to continue bad-mouthing the Democrats while at the same time calling himself an "Independant Democrat". The Democratic electorate which nominated the other guy already is not liking Joe for this. He may pick up some moderates, and Joe loyalists, but the guy at the coffee shop on the corner ain't gonna buy into it. Donations are going to be very tough, especially with all the prominent Dems actively supporting the nominee.

He'll have Republican support, but that's going to be a huge campaign issue, driving more people over to Lamont, including many, many moderates. I'd like to think that much of the local CT media is going to play this fair, or be slightly biased toward Lamont. We *are* talking about one of the most blue states in the country (7th most Dem state).

We may watch Lamont pull this out yet. He's working hard and getting some good support. If he does pull up in the polling, you can bet your bottom dollar that Lamont will be far, far from the only Democratic underdog to win a Senate seat.

Hell, I'd bet even money that not one Dem Senate seat will go to the Repukes this time. I'd give good odds that not one House seat will do the same.

[samsingh]

46. i think this means that we do have a very good chance of winning

the midterms.

[longship]

77. I don't know how you can say that.

Right this very second we have a lock on the House, if the election were to be held today. The Senate is within one seat.

Are you saying that things are going to swing towards the Repukes between now and November? If so, how in the Sam Hell are they going to pull that off?

Another terror attack? While they're saying that they are the party who can keep Murica safe?

Another war? With nearly two-thirds against the current war?

Dirty politics? With the electorate totally weary of the 365 day a year dirty politics we've had for the past five years?

More fear? With people ultra pissed about their shampoo, toothpaste, and bottled water?

Stay the Course? Right!!! Like that's gonna work.

I just don't see how they accomplish it.
Face it. They're completely f*cked.

[samsingh]

82. i suggest caution, vigilence, and an onslaught of effort to win because

- the media is going to turn sharply right: witness the ABC drama on Sunday that will pretend to be neutral and blame Clinton, ignoring bush's vacation and his ignoring warnings of bin laden, the 10 minutes inside the classroom, etc.

- many leading dem candidates are going to start getting swiftboated. we tend to get a deer in the headlights look when this happens.

- repugs fight dirtier and harder than Dems. they appear to have more pride (who knows why) in their ideology that we do.

- dems don't appear to be good at shifting a script. we seem to build a best case game plan and stick with it until the bitter end.

- voting machines are probably going to siphon votes in key races

- redistricting has already provided the enemy with a solid advantage

- dem votes will not all be counted.

[samsingh]

47. 7 senate seats, 50 house seats would be incredible and ...

how about a good couple of dozen Governor seats.

sure will be wonderful to set things right again. but the bush machine has really busted things up.

[longship]

78. Governor's seats are going to be tougher.

I don't know why that should be. Yes, we're going to have pick-ups. But it was looking like we might lose MI just a couple of weeks ago and it still looks like the Boob-N-Grabber might be reelected. I guess people don't connect the national issues and Chimp with the statehouse.

Dems will pick up some, but they're gonna lose some. But doesn't it still look like advantage to the Dems right now?

[samsingh]

83. yes it does

it should vitalise us.

[MoonRiver]

84. Please, please start a new thread using your post as topic.

I'm so tired of all the paranoia and negativity on DU lately. I also believe the MSM is on top of the "story" and wants to gain some of its lost credibility by calling it like it is, for once.

[Cleita]

22. I'm not counting my chickens until after the election. n/t

[chat_noir]

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[LaPera]

25. Exactly what Rove wants his right-wing shill CNN to say....

Keep the Dem's again over confident - When will they learn?

Arnold was at 32% just a couple of month's ago - Dem's were sure Arnold was toast and were all but celebrating, now, there's no way Arnold is going to lose in November unfortunately....Santorum, DeWine and at least a half a dozen other repugs counted out by these same Dem's, saying they were toast---They slowly creep back in....

This is why Rove wants people to just assume the Dem's already have the majority in the bag...Still a long way to go, things change.... Republicans have all the money they need to smear, lie & distort and a corporate media like Fox CNN & MSNBC ready & willing to help Rove & the republicans...The republicans will be pulling out all the stops with their tons of dirty trick, AND... their number one dirty trick.... is always, when you have nothing to run on, as the republicans don't)....LIE & USE CHARACTER ASSASSINATION AGAINST YOUR DEMOCRATIC OPPONENT. It's effective, it works, and it only turns-off one voting group from voting....the DEMOCRATS!

Wherever there is Republican Secretary of State, anywhere across the country there will be fraud, of course favoring the republican this November...Florida, Ohio, California, Alaska, Georgia, Texas, etc. etc. etc...

And in most states where there is a republican Secretary of State, Rove is getting them all set & ready to steal votes for the republicans in November...

Rove and the republicans are NOT going to just give up their majority without stealing it first...And who can stop them? If caught nothing ever happens they know that, too late they are already in office and then the republican corporate media goes to work...Screaming that the Dem's are sore losers, there's no proof what-so-ever, (more distortion for the mainstream) and that the Dem's are simply full of sour grapes...

Even though there will be tons of proof...it'll be ignored until it's too late and then we'll get a shitload of books about all the obvious fraud and stealing of votes--- and guest talking about it on every liberal talk show around the country!!

But then it'll be too late...and the Dem's will be scratching their heads saying maybe we should done this or this or support the war or...Dem leadership never considering even for a moment, it might be the republican owned electronic voting machines.

[MadJohnShaft]

27. We need to get that nice Lou Dobbs on the electronic voting thing

[yodermon]

28. DUH! because now that a Dem takeover is a fait accompli,

the plan to enact another MIHOP/LIHOP is officially coming into effect.

Therefore, when we are attacked my "Al Qaida" again, the Dems get to be blamed and vilified just in time for the '08 election of Giuliani, 9/11 hero.

Democrats are the "Al Qaida" candidates, remember? So, what happens when you elect Al Qaida?

Terriss attax, of course.

All very simple; it looks like the propaganda arm has finally adopted & fallen in with the "what happens when the Dems take over" scenario fork.

It'll be interesting to see how the timing of the attack(s) interplays with impeachment hearings/proceedings.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

29. Okay, done deal, thanks CNN!

No reason to vote in November, right? Now DU'ers can sit on DU all day instead of putting forth the effort to get out of the house and actually 'vote'..

[TheWraith]

31. Set crazy-ass paranoia to "Off."

People, listen to me very carefully. Not everything is a conspiracy cooked up by the "Mainstream Media" in collaboration with the Tri-Lateral Commission and the Freemasons. Karl Rove isn't omnipotent, and he doesn't get to write scripts for the news channels. Every bit of energy burnt off here in a outpouring of paranoia, fear, and random illogical suspicions is energy that's no longer being directed at actually doing anything other than building a little bubble-world where good is bad and up is down.

If CNN were saying "big gains for Republicans" it would be decried here as propaganda and favoritism. If they were saying "too close to call" it would be claimed that they were trying to make it close enough to steal. Since they're saying "big gains for Dems," it MUST be some kind of evil trick! Run around in a circle and scream in panic!

Let's please see if we can crank down the paranoia factor around here.

[JuniperLea]

55. I disagree

I think it serves to strengthen the resolve...




I watched V for Vendetta last night... art imitates life... I have no doubt the paranoia is well placed. And further, I have no doubt it is good and healthy and will serve a purpose.

The world will be a much better place when more people can watch the news and say...

BULLOCKS!

[pauliedangerously]

76. I agree...

Besides, the wealthy have already gotten their tax cuts. Now they need the Democrats back in power to get the economy rolling so their stocks go up.

[Hubert Flottz]

33. They could have never told that if Wolf hadn't taken a day off.

Wolf would have brought up the Karr story instead!

[Love Bug]

34. Yep, they just want complacent Dems to stay home and not vote

thinking Dems are a shoo-in. Don't buy it. After the last 3 elections, I'm cautiously optimistic at best, expecting another disappointment at worse. Repukes are gonna cheat, they are gonna cheat every way they can. Just expect it.

[JuniperLea]

52. That's my first thought too

They hope we will become complacent and lazy...

[LSK]

35. so its getting unstealable

If they think they can steal it, the headlines would be how surprisingly close the races are.

But conceeding that it will be a Dem blowout in October might mean they cannot steal it.

[cyclezealot]

39. IT will take a real Dem blow out to change things.

If just marginal control, you will see the re-emergence of the Dixiecrats doing the Repug bidding. I hope this is right. With the gerrymandered congressional districts, I just wonder where the seats will come from for a huge Democratic victory.

[AX10]

58. We need a net gain of 25 house seats to govern.

228. If it is just a 1-3 seat majority, that will become problematic. We will need 30-40 net gain of seats to be safe.

[Atman]

61. CNN was saying we'll get AT LEAST 25 House seats!

That is the point...they're drumming this up as being a kick-as tsunami for the Dems. That's what worries me.

[AX10]

62. 25 is a respectable win. It's not a landslide.

We need to get 35-45 seats for me to call it a "landslide".

[Justice Is Comin]

80. There are things happening behind the curtain

which shows the inside players know the doom is coming for the gops.

K Street is vigorously searching out and welcoming Dems for the first time as lobbyists. This is a more telling predictor than almost anything.

Chris Shays is going dead opposite of urine face and advocating a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq. This is after he made his 14th trip!! The pukes are scrambling for their lives.

The investigations that are percolating all involve nearly 100% republicans. Anything could happen in breaking news of more indictments.

Lamont comes from 25 points down to dump an incumbent "democrat". And within a two month period.

The republicans haven't delivered a single thing to the budweiser boneheads for the last three years. No immigration halt, no sealing the borders, no death tax repealed. There is a torrent of angry neocons who just won't vote. It would stand logic on its head to think that the WORST WORST WORST case scenario is that the Dems are going to pick up many seats. Even if we don't win control of either house, that's still going to put the deathblow to any republican legislation they would try to force through. We will have many more votes than we have now and the pukes couldn't get anything passed with the vote majority they have now. How the hell does it stand to reason they will when the odds get even worse? It's a lose,lose for them. And the freepers and neocons know it.


Now, let me tell you what drives me crazy even with this 100 mile an hour wind at our backs. We've got leaders who wouldn't know how to capitalize on this likely congressional takeover scenario of at least the House if we only needed one representative to win majority, let alone 15. We could be driving stakes right through the heart of every stumbling Republican clod trying to elected, but they just don't know how. We could ridicule them right under the table. But our spokespeople couldn't be any worse if they were hired to work against us. They talk like idiots. Brazille, Shrum, that Jenny somebody and Steve somebody. God, what losers. I wouldn't hire them to go door to door with flyers. We're going to win the House despite Pelosi and Reid doing almost everything ass backwards to slow it down.

What I also think you're going to see happen is urine face is going to dump Rumsfeld. He is out of cards and this is going to be his last ditch Hail Mary pass to try to dominate the news with the tossing of Rumsfeld rather than the dead bodies that are being piled up in the morgues. Hoping it will look like he's making such dramatic changes because "he's seen the light." Watch him also try to act like he wants to include more Dems in his "let's all work together" new attitude. It'll be as phony as he is. But watch for it.

He's between the bull and the barb wire and he knows it. He knows when we get subpoena power, he's going to be drinking semi loads of Maalox and his terror scares are as worn out now as Ghandi's shoes.

[Biernuts]

40. OK, so it's in the bag - we can stop contributing and coast for the next

two months - just like when George "Mr. Brilliant" Soros said no more $ since Kerry's election was a forgone conclusion. Remember when President Kerry rewarded his geneosity with a cabinet post shortly after his January 20, 2005 inaguration - or maybe that was in a dream?

In any case, CNN made it official - we can all go home now. I'll go eat some Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream to get ready for the fight obseity rally.

[AX10]

66. Soros is an establishment player. In fairness, he understands the...

dangers of extremism, especially from the right wing. He is an establishment moderate. But he has no interest in funding left-leaning media outlets.

[threadkillaz]

41. They always overestimate the competition early...

...so that momentum can be fabricated as its gets closer to the election, and drive Repubs to the polls.

They did it to Dean too (imho).

[Exultant Democracy]

42. I agree, I don't think they should be making irresponsible announcements

like this. Speculation at this point is only guess works, let us hope that instead of galvanizing the conservative base that it end up pushing the undecideds into what they think will be the wining team.

[w4rma]

44. I don't know about that. This will *help* Democratic fundraising and

hurt Repug fundraising. Buisness owners who want kickbacks will want to donate to the winner more than the loser.

[quinnox]

48. it's looking good

but most likely repubs will pull some stunt to try and change things but still I believe the momentum is on the democratic side and will be tough to stop.

[bigdarryl]

50. All bets are off if another TERROR scare comes before election

Don't be surprise by it the media is setting us up for high expectations

[Robbins]

51. 2006

Republicans may want us to win. Why you ask? 2008. To keep the White House they need us Incontrol
of Congress to run against. Also If Webb knocks off Allan this leaves the republican race largely
between Mccain,Guiliani,and Gingrich. Eather one of them witht he media's help will distance themself from Bush,and run as the moderate choice.

[Biernuts]

64. None of the three are likely to get the nomination, but if they did:

Gingrich would lose
McCain would squeak out a win
Guiliani would kick so much ass, he would have substantial coattails and retake any house lost in 2006

[AX10]

65. I don't agree about Guiliani. He will NOT win by any landslide.

He would lose. McCain would win by a smaller margin than the pundits (GOP tools) are saying. If the Dems win the house back, McCain could help to take some seats away from us.

The Democratic candidate would win in a landslide against Gingrich though.

[Biernuts]

69. Guiliani would get the votes of the repugs who loathe the idea

of turning thr WH over. He also would get more independents that McCain and Gingrich combined, probably 55%+ of the popular vote. All the states won by Bush in 2004 plus New York, Penn and Michigan, and MAYBE New Jersey. DC and California stay dem, if it's any consolation.

[AX10]

71. I don't agree. Also, I don't agree that he has a chance of winning the...

GOP primary either.

[Biernuts]

72. I said that it's unlikely he could. n/t

[AtomicKitten]

53. I wonder if exiting polling (owned & operated by MSM)

will be conveniently "unavailable" as it was in 2002 so we can track the fraud.

I prefer data over their BS predictions.

[spanone]

54. This could be Karl's last big stand, I trust him NOT one bit.

[midnight]

56. Maybe the wealthy folks need some of us middle class folks

to remain loyal. Maybe it's time to allow us to think that our democratic leaders will represent us. I hope the payoff doesn't mean that in return they have to sell off more of the constitution, pass another NAFTA,or Cafta. Let's fix that stuff.

[Roon]

59. I don't believe it

We are gonna lose and it's really gonna suck.

[MoonRiver]

85. Look like you're a real "team player"

NOT. :puke:

[Roon]

87. Just being realistic

as long as bush plays the fear card, republicans will always win.

[Roon]

88. Tell you what

I am gonna bookmark this thread. We'll take a looksy in November, K?

[AX10]

90. Good idea!

[Wednesdays]

60. Hmm...then why is one reliable site predicting

The repugs will retain both House and Senate?

http://www.campaignline.com/oddsmaker/index.cfm?navid=12

I'm hardly gleeful of the prospects of a continued repuke monopoly, but something about all this just doesn't pass the smell test.

[Robbins]

63. Site

That Is from last year I clicked.It Is out of date.

[ChiciB1]

68. It Would Be Truly Amazing If CNN Read These Posts....

I wonder just what they would be thinking. The fact that the very first All The Time News Show is so reviled by us at DU and many Democratic blogs. Actually they might even be surprised at how many feel as we do. And what is even more disturbing is that this is a REALITY! We don't trust them to tell us the truth, we don't trust them to think "we the people" even matter. We can't trust them! Oh, Fool me once... c'mon King George you know how that one goes!!!!

And you know... IT'S THEIR FAULT! I don't trust them, and as each day goes by I feel less comfort that they are still there! They have played too many games, gone along with the "corrupt ones" for too many years, and now half of America reviles them!! They have led in the "dumbing down" of too many people all over the world!

I myself don't watch them anymore. Only the last 5 minutes when Jack is on. They deserve no respect because they haven't EARNED it!!

LIAR, LIAR... pants on FIRE!!

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70. You think they don't have analysts reading DU, KOS & FREP? n/t

[ChiciB1]

73. You Know, Maybe They Do & If they Do.... Then That's

double-down DIRTY! It just makes me feel even worse! So we KNOW, THEY KNOW, how WE feel, but they just don't give a flying F--k!

My heart hurts... but it's been hurting for a very long time.

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79. Get tough or ship out baby, th'is Marica

Franky I don't give that proverbial flying whatever some over-wrought(so called) news network thinks or does. If you have not noticed how rapidly Corporate media is loosing audience

You can take this course
http://www.ceu.hu/polsci/Syllabi05-06/Fall/MA/Sukosd_Alternative_Media.doc

or Just read some of the fallout for yourself

peoples investigation into 9/11

The spectacular and brazen attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon on Sept. 11 shocked the citizens of the United States. Within hours, the Bush Administration, U.S. Intelligence and the corporate media were already naming Osama Bin Ladin as the mastermind behind the attacks. Within just a couple days, a list of alleged suspects was made public by the FBI, and a general outline of how they guess the attacks were carried out was presented.

The list of suspects has since proven to be inaccurate, the official story has numerous holes and glaring inconsistencies, and the FBI itself has admitted, after 8 months of investigation, that it does not have one single piece of hard evidence linking the people they said did it to the planning of the attacks.

The blunt fact is, there is no proof at all that the FBI's alleged suspects, or even Arabs in general actually did carry out the attacks. From the first day, one set of suspects and a theory has been pursued with no success. An honest person would admit that they had made a major mistake by deciding who did it first, and then looking for the evidence to prove the decision correct, rather than openly collecting all the evidence, and looking where it led, no matter where that was.

This of course is assuming that the Bush Administration and the Intelligence community are honestly trying to find out what happened. Given the history of Bush and his Iran/Contra cronies and the track record of the CIA it is not only highly possible that they knew and let the attacks happen, but also that they might have initiated the attacks. There is plenty of evidence of coverup, and no possibility should be ruled out.
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http://portland.indymedia.org/en/topic/911investigation/

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86. Naive to think the administration and GOP won't roll out something...

...in order to sway voters who really want to vote republican and who are looking for a reason to stay loyal or at least not vote democratic. Things we might see in the news that may or may not actually be true:

OBL found or thought killed
Number 2 Al Queda found or thought killed
Fake progress/photo op in Israel/Palestine peace talks
Attack on Israel
Some good story about Iraqi army being almost ready to take over security
Some good story about troops coming home (wouldn't take much...10,000- 20,000...temporary)
Some bad story about an illegal immigrant committing a highly visible crime (a la Willie Horton)
Gas prices dropping
Fake news on the economy
Fake proposal to do something about global warming (a la "Healthy Forests)
Democrats, if elected, will tie up government with hearings and investigations...will focus on the past
Democrats, if elected, will raise your taxes
Democrats, if elected, will be soft on terrorism
Some announcement of improved relations with China
Senate approves FISA rules that vindicate NSA spying
WH personnel shake up
Some minor WMD event in Afghanistan, Lebanon, or Iraq
Fake Iran threats in the news (more of the same that everyone seems to be falling for)
Some meaningless announcement on Katrina programs

It doesn't take much to hide the truth, fake progress, scare people, and get voters back for a short period of time. We haven't begun to see the rough stuff yet. Ruthless, unprincipled RWrs have any number of options available and can be sure of enough media cooperation to be effective. That's why dems have to stand up strong at every opportunity and represent the truth.

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92. One of blurbs just came out, gasoline should be around $2.00 by.........

Thanksgiving. Just be honest though, if you had all them bucks you wanted to keep and had great control of what came out at corporate media outlets, what would try to get people to focus their attention on?

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93. Good News == Something is very, very wrong????

Think!! Use your brain for something other than a hatrack.

Would CNN be saying such a thing if they didn't think it would happen?

What would happen to CNN credibility if they made that kind of prediction this far out (before the campaign begins!) and they didn't have the information to back it up?

And just how is this wrong? Please explain this to me. I'm really not understanding why any news organization would do something like this.

This is great news. Note that Bloomberg is also making a similar call. Novakula said 25 House seats go to the Dems this last weekend.

Question... Does anybody who's paying attention to things realistically expect Dems will *not* pick up many seats in November?

Pshaw! This negativism here on DU grates me down.

CNN is saying this because Repukes are in huge trouble in November, not because they are playing some game.