Breaking on MSNBC.com: KUSA TV: 2 sources say Karr DNA sample doesn't

[sinkingfeeling]

match Ramsey sample.

Here's the link to story: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14553130/

KUSA also reported that the Boulder County District Attorney's office will drop the charges against Karr.

[walldude]

1. Wow, I'm so suprised.... n/t

[Viva_La_Revolution]

7. me too.

it was bullshit from the start.

[Renew Deal]

2. I bet it doesn't.

The guy is a weirdo, but there was too much showing that he wasn't involved.

[Sherman A1]

3. Knock me over with a feather!

I am so terribly surprised at this turn of events, or perhaps NOT.

[saracat]

4. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Investigative journalism at its finest!

AND WE SHOULD NOW KEEP HEARING ABOUT THIS GUY WHY?

[janx]

11. Because some CU journalism professor pulled him out of a hat

to further some kind of obsession he has.

[LostinVA]

29. Don't forget Lou Smit's obsession, too

I doubted Karr's story from the get-go... but as soon as I heard the infamous prof AND Lou Smit was involved, I was like fuggetabouit.

[janx]

38. Figures. They've both been into some kind of intruder

theory from the beginning.

[LostinVA]

41. Yuppers

[Writer]

46. And I suppose you're rabidly AGAINST any kind of intruder theory?

:shrug:

[janx]

49. It doesn't matter what I'm for or against.

I lived in the area at the time. I've passed that house many times. When this horrible murder happened, the Boulder police bungled a lot, but it looked as if nobody had entered the house. There were no signs of forced entry. And I can't exactly fault Boulder law enforcement--there hadn't been many murders in Boulder.

[Writer]

50. You have just taken the time to blashpheme two people you don't...

know for having a theory that you purportedly believe is false - the intruder theory. Are they not permitted a different view than yours?

[janx]

53. I don't know that it's false, but it seems unlikely.

And of course they're permitted to believe whatever they want to believe. So no, I haven't blasphemed them. I just find their intruder theory unlikely based on the facts of the case.

:shrug:

[Writer]

57. Did you not write earlier that the CU prof...

pulled this man out of a hat in order to "further some obsession he has?"

And didn't another poster follow up that Smit also had an obsession with the intruder theory?

[LostinVA]

60. T^hat was me -- Smit DOES have an obsession with the intruder theory

He believes the Ramseys couldn't have done it because they were such good Christians. Ergo, it must have been an intruder. He HAS been obsessed with this. And, he had his fingers deep, deep in this matter with Karr...

[Writer]

65. So... those who believe the Ramsey's did it...

don't have an obsession with the Ramsey theory?

[LostinVA]

72. No reason to put words into my mouth

If you think Patsy murdered JB because she put her in pageants, or think John was taking a snuff film of her -- that's nuts. If you think the KNOWN EVIDENCE points to the Ramseys, that's your theory. If you think the Ramseys couldn't have done it because they're good Christians, or because no parent could do that to their child -- that's a bit nutso. If you feel the KNOWN EVIDENCE points to an intruder, that's your theory.

I personally feel the evidence points overwhelmingly to an inside killing -- not a murder.

Smit and Tracey have hardcore agendas -- and Smit's is backed by alot of insider knowledge, some far-fetched theories, and more than a bit of Righteous Zealotry. My theory -- or yours -- doesn't result in someone being entrapped via email and dragged from another country at an enormous cost to taxpayers. Theirs did. This was a small group of private individuals -- NOT law enforcement -- showboating. Ugh.

[Writer]

76. And if you say that the "evidence" points overwhelmingly to an...

inside killing - do you not also have a hardcore agenda when assessing this case?

[janx]

70. He did?

I was out of town and away from television and so missed all of the recent hoopla.

[janx]

68. The CU prof. exchanged emails with Karr for a long time.

I'm not blaming him for it; he teaches journalism, after all, and he was in Boulder. It was to his advantage to do so. But a lot of people took advantage of that awful situation and apparently continue to do so.

[helderheid]

5. surprise, surprise.

[warrens]

6. Shocked, I tell you, shocked

I guess they HAD to bust him and check his story, but it was pretty clear this guy just wanted to be in the papers.

[yellerpup]

13. I think he just wanted a free trip home from Thailand.

:shrug:

[TheFriedPiper]

8. Filed under W for Who cares?

[spanone]

9. nevermind.......

[AndyA]

10. I wonder how much he was paid to divert attention away from the real

news story at the time.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

79. It just hit me...

...why would a professed murdering pedophile get treated to grandly on his trip over here?

I read somewhere that Karr use to e-mail Patsy, that was until the FBI (?) intervened. Smells fishy. :x(:

[electropop]

12. So it was just a cover for the Judge Taylor anti-wiretapping verdict.

I thought so.

[yellerpup]

15. Second that!

Anything but the NEWS! :sarcasm:

[Just-plain-Kathy]

78. Thanks electropop...

I was trying to remember what big news story needed to buried that week.

[Le Taz Hot]

14. But it sure as heck

served as a great, "Hey! Look at the shiny thing!" moment for the MSM. That way we don't have to talk about Bush trying to take over the National Guard, the umpteen millionth Republican corruption scandal, multi-national corps making obcene profits while the working stiffs (you and me) once again get screwed, etc.

[Richard Steele]

16. Gee, what a shock. Who could possibly have predicted this?

And after that :sarcasm: , howzabout a rhetorical question:
Will we be seeing apologies from Nancy Grace
or any of her ilk who were screaming to fry this
wacko for the Ramsey murder?

I think we all know the answer to that one.

[babylonsister]

17. So all the time the media whores spent on this was for nothing, except

to waste our time and distract from actual news. I'm noticing a pattern here...

[La Coliniere]

27. What next? Oh yeah

we have the "Aruba/missing girl" story to look forward to as the new "cover story".

[SoCalDem]

47. Shaaaaaaaark

:)

[Supersedeas]

59. poor Paula Zahn and Nancy Grace -- WHAAT will they do?

[Harry Monroe]

18. So can the media quit talking about it now...

...and get back to important news?? It provided cover for Bushco, but its run its course and Karr has had his 15 minutes of fame. Oh wait, I think I see another celebrity breakup in the making they can use for cover!!!:hurts:

[ChiciB1]

19. Fugeddaboudit Already!!!

Don't want to be rude, and I really feel for the family.... but FOLKS we've got some very IMPORTANT issues we need to keep working on! And KARR isn't one of them!

I haven't posted anything about this until now, but I SICK of this kind of stuff! I don't see how it's going to change any of "our" lives right now. Let's keep the focus on what really matters!

And if anyone wants to jump for this go right ahead.... I'm outta here!

[Rex]

20. Oh no! They still need a few more months of distraction

so their asshole bosses can get re-elected!!! Poor M$M, their number 1 smoke screen goes up in smoke. Ha fucking ha.

[never_get_over_it]

21. Stunned I tell you

no shocked - no stunned - no I'm not sure I'm stunned and shocked

maybe we should start a pool on what will be the next MSM BIG FREAKING STORY to distract the masses...

[MindPilot]

22. That's because *I* killed jon benet

I mean, these days, who hasn't?

So, how much of the Ramsey fortune Mr Karr will "inherit"?

[QuestionAll...]

52. Jack McCafferty said Katherine Harris killed JonBenet.

nervy, huh?

he just finished reporting on the Harris/Christian church/state thing. the letters he read were very anti-Harris. Crushing. One said her brain and her mouth had been separated.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

Never mind that...

...What did he have for breakfast? What's his astrological sign? What's his favorite sitcom?

Gimme the important stuff!

[rniel]

23. So I guess he was on the republican payroll

after all.

[eleny]

24. Back to square one

[Junkdrawer]

25. Ya think???? Last I heard, he would have had to been in COLORADO...

before the murder for his DNA to have been there, but I guess I'm being technical again.

[MindPilot]

Stand by for a few days of breathless reports about how

"inaccurate" and "unreliable" DNA tests are.

[Atman]

26. Well, at least we didn't miss a week of REAL NEWS for this.

Oh, wait. We did.

Never mind.

[LostinVA]

28. Color me gobsmacked -- not

[malaise]

30. All this deserves is a

Duh!!!:D

[newspeak]

31. hey, it's the guy's five minutes of fame.

He will be remembered more than those eight soldiers who were killed--he is infamous now.

[Bitter Cup]

34. Soldiers are being killed somewhere?

shhh don't interrupt me while I'm watching Karr's plane land...oh their serving him a meal...hey look they are doing a special on his tie...

[LibertyorDeath]

32. but but but how how...HOW could this be there must be some kind of flaw

with the accuracy of DNA testing.
Nancy Grace says he did it and sheeeesss neeveeer Wroooong.....

[lonestarnot]

33. Good now can we get this the fuck off the air waves.

[CottonBear]

35. We DUer's new the whole Karr story was BS. You heard it here first.

Mike Malloy is cracking me up. He just called Karr a "pod person."

[Halliburton]

36. DOWNRIGHT STUNNING

what will the corporate media do now? I guess Mr. karr sipping champagne no longer qualifies as breaking news?

[LibertyorDeath]

37. He should be sent back to Thailand to face Justice

on the next fucking flight.

[alcibiades_mystery]

54. He wasn't charged with anything in Thailand

Follow the thread, please...

[LostinVA]

61. Justice for what????

He wasn't under arrest for any charges in Thailand.

[LibertyorDeath]

75. My error I thought he was.

[rateyes]

39. Now we'll have to suffer through a week of reporting...

on how incompetent all those law enforcement officials and DA's are, ad nauseum.

Breaking news: Karr didn't touch his Wheaties this morning, opting only for a bowl of fruit with yogurt!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!! :sarcasm:

[RedEarth]

40. Who the hell is JonBenet?

here's a link to the blog of the editorial cartoonist, John de Rosier

http://blogs.timesunion.com/derosier/?p=86

[ThomWV]

42. So The Grinnin' Bastard Got A Get Out Of Jail Free From Thailand

Smart. I'd have admitted to most anything to get out of a Thai Jail myself, particularly if I knew I didn't do it and there wasn't much of a chance in hell anyone could prove I did.

[Balbus]

45. I'm wondering if we have an extradition agreement with Thailand

to send his ass back. But it was a smart play on his part. Of course, that's if this isn't some huge Rovian plot to distract us from global warming, the Iraq war, Lieberman, wire-tap ruling, Cynthia Mckinney, the plan crash in Kentucky, Bush's poll numbers, and of course the release of the Fox reporters from captivity.

[alcibiades_mystery]

55. HE WASN'T FUCKING CHARGED WITH ANY CRIME IN THAILAND

Ay yay yay.

[LostinVA]

62. He wasn't under arrest in Thailand

[Gregorian]

43. Hold the presses! We have to find a diversion ASAP!

Runaway brides are too predictable.

Champagne and prawns won't fly twice.

Come on, we can't let Americans find out that NSA spying is uncostitutional.


Has anyone seen a UFO? Anyone? Come on, quick.

[donco6]

44. Man am I glad I didn't post anything on the JBR threads.

Sheesh.

[QuestionAll...]

51. I kept away as well... were there many here on DU to 'Nancy Grace' him?

McCafferty at CNN said something like this:
and the media spent all this time on this story? He sounded as disgusted as some of us here.

Wolfie is away - was he one of them that spent too much time on the story?

I like how Jack slyly kicks Leslie ass some time.

[donco6]

58. It wasn't 2 mins after he was arrested that . . .

people were demanding apologies for Patsy.

[LostinVA]

63. Yes, I saw that thread

I don't see any posters on here today.

[Roon]

73. Oooooooh!! Someone should post a link to that thread!

That would be very interesting to see.

[LostinVA]

74. I found it -- I think

But the worst of the posts were in a deleted subthread. It was pretty bad...

[Lex]

64. I remember that thread.

:hi:

[janx]

66. Nobody wants to consider the possibility that a parent would

even inadvertently kill a child. The thought is just too horrible.

[donco6]

69. Of course. But, sadly it happens all too often.

Whether Patsy or John had anything to do with it, I don't know. That's why I didn't post. But for either side to be so vehemently for/against their position that they get into big flame wars about it - well, that's just silly.

[janx]

71. Yes, it is. n/t

[Liberal Veteran]

77. Not me....I suspected from the start that Karr was a nutcase confessor

I still suspect the real culprit was closer to home (one of the family most likely).

Too many things about the Karr story just didn't mesh with the original story.

I had a strong feeling that the people demanding an apology to the Ramsey's would be eating crow.

[Rosco T.]

48. Won't get Roved again...

people are getting tied of this..

[yurbud]

56. it did have the feel of "HEY! Look over there!" (an please ignore the mess

we've made in Iraq and plan to make in Iran).

[Warren DeMontague]

67. Wow. Go figure.

Now, can we please have another two months worth of non-stop media coverage on this goon?