Did the actors have their little awards shows during WWII?

[RB TexLa]

Didn't they cancel some of them after 9/11? Did they still have to have a party to tell each other who is more wonderful and brilliant during WWII? Can't we use the war on terror as an excuse to end those things?

[bryant69]

1. Why would we?

What would that do?

And in World War II you had the excuse that the economy was being focused on the war effort - people made real sacrifices to see that Hitler and the Axis were defeated. Meatless mondays and the light.

In the "War on Terror" our only responsibility as citizens is to shut up and let the Bush adminsitration do what ever it wants.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[bitchkitty]

2. Wow -

Let me guess...

You don't like actors.

[RB TexLa]

9. not that, just my wife had some of that crap on last night

they televise them saying to each other "you are so wonderful." "No, no, it is you who is truly wonderful."

And at one point I guess someone said "we will now dribble on about how wonderful and brilliant the dead actors were."

[magnolia]

35. The fact that....

...Jon Stewart won two awards makes it OKAY with me. All of the clips they showed from his show were anti-Bush.

[trixie]

54. exactly!

Also loved the anti-Bush theme running through the show. Loved the Stewart/Colbert presenting.

[blogslut]

3. Not quite sure

However, television was in its infancy during WWII. I believe that awards shows were less before the public eye during that time. I did read there was a lot of volunteerism from Hollywood, ala the Stage Door Canteen and USO.

[bigwillq]

4. The Emmys were delayed

a few times after 9/11.

If you don't like the Emmys, don't watch.
Some people like them, some people don't but they've been airing them for years so I don't think much is going to change now.

[bigwillq]

5. dupe

please delete

[Crankie Avalon]

6. That was a war where pretty much every able bodied male was serving...

...except for Chickenhawks like John Wayne and other then and future Republicans.

This "war" is one where only a small number of people are serving two and three tours, there is no draft, etc.

WWII was a war to preserve our way of life. At best, Iraq is a war to preserve our style of life.

[calico1]

7. The Oscars were held during the war but

they were much more toned down. The actors wore business suits and simple dresses and didn't get all decked out.

I don't really care for award shows but I don't go all to pieces over them. I just don't watch.

[blm]

8. Are we in WW3? Has Glenn Beck convinced you?

Or are you waiting for the Four Horsemen to start singing?

[RB TexLa]

10. Who?

[blm]

12. Do YOU believe we're in WW3?

.

[RB TexLa]

13. no I don't, but I was asking who is Glen Beck?

[blm]

14. The RW yakker who tells us EVERY DAY that we're in WW3 and need to go

into Iran. Unfortunately, CNN gives him a couple hours a day to promote his Rovian talking points.

And if you believe we are NOT in WW3, why do you want ACTORS and the film industry to act as it did during WW2?

[RB TexLa]

15. ok, must have missed that one

[atreides1]

11. Yes

The 14th(1941), 15th(1942), 16th(1943), 17th(1944), and 18th(1945) Academy Awards(Oscars) were still held duirng WWII.

[SheilaT]

16. During WWII

the only awards thing was the Oscars. No television, so it was just a dinner thing. There simply wasn't they hype that exists today.

Also today we have multiple awards shows: Emmys, Daytime Emmys, Grammys, People's Choice Awards, Golden Globe. I don't know how many others. It's something insecure people do to assure each other that they have a purpose in life, or that their work is meaningful.

[reichstag911]

17. I can see your point,...

...but I disagree with it. "Hollywood" is not the enemy; the criminals in the White House are. What would cancelling awards shows accomplish, anyway? Just 'cuz you don't like the tone of self-congratulation doesn't change the fact that the creative folks in the TV/film community are broadly anti-Bush, and they have access to media outlets to spread that thinking, no matter how subtly.

[RB TexLa]

18. I couldn't care about their politics, I'd just rather they not have them

so my wife can't turn the tv to it.

[blm]

20. Except YOU just SPUN it into a political point at a POLITICAL FORUM.

Sorry, not buying your motivation as some casual stance.

[RB TexLa]

22. I was just suggesting that could be used as an excuse to get rid of

them.

[magnolia]

36. And we should care about your politics???

I'm interested in everyone's opinions...including famous people.

BTW...go to the personal life threads to share your control issues regarding your wife.

[RB TexLa]

37. I have no control with her, she is a free human being

[trixie]

55. How come your wife can't tune in to them?

Isn't she her own person with her own rights? You could just walk away. You could read, take a walk, watch something else. Let's not start up with censorship.

[ComerPerro]

49. No kidding. If we were at war, Bush wouldn't take monthlong vacations

and tax cuts for the very wealthy simply wouldn't fly

[ccpup]

19. I suspect

you'd have a different view of the people in the Entertainment Industry if you knew how hard they really do work. And I'm not just talking the usual 14 hour days the TV actors put in while shooting their shows, but also the months of prep the Production team has invested as well as the heavy lifting and super-long hours the crew endures without the downtime the actors have while they relight, strike the sets, and move equipment to the new set. If they want to take a night out to mingle and party and congratulate each other for having survived another Season, what's the big deal?

It's obvious to me you have no idea what their lives are really like. If you did, I don't think the Emmy Awards would inspire such jealousy and vitriol in you. For many actors (but not all), the red carpet stuff is a blip on the radar screen. Their actual lives are a lot less glamorous.

Just my two cents.

[RB TexLa]

21. I have no view of them or opinion of them

[LostinVA]

24. But the real question is: would you drink with them?

[RB TexLa]

26. I don't think I know any of them

[ccpup]

32. Oh, my mistake.

From the way you attempted to demean them with the title "little award shows" in your headline to your full-out attack on how they "congratulate" themselves and on to ending your initial question by referring to them as "those things" and, later in a reply, as "crap", I made the assumption you didn't like them and considered it all a bunch of hooey! My bad. :sarcasm:

Or perhaps you're being less than honest when you say you have no view or opinion of them. Either way, like beer and tequila, Award Shows and you apparently don't mix well.

Next time, just pick up a book! :-)

[RB TexLa]

33. no, I was being honest

[RaleighNCDUer]

23. Sure. and while we're at it, let's get rid of all those

fucking sports shows. They don't matter to anyone - at least not to anyone who has a thought in his head. So some millionaire steroid junkie can throw a ball -- whoop de do. What's that got to do with real life?

And don't get me started on NASCAR. Bunch of morons who only know how to turn left.

Or a better idea.

If you don't like it, don't watch it.

[ContraBass Black]

38. There's too much fiction on television.

Whether it's "news," "reality," or "sci-fi," we should just be rid of all of it.

[xchrom]

25. i LOVE them!

love the whole red carpet thing -- love the chance to see the guys and gals get dressed up --

it's just fun for me.

don't really care what anyone else thinks -- and besides -- they aren't the enemy of anything.

[ShortnFiery]

27. Hey, why not just be like many of us ---> Don't watch these smarmy

Hollywood love fests? I despise these folks, in general, especially since their TV and movies SUCK SO BAD. Have not ever watched American Idol or the asinine "reality shows" for the clingy wannabes.

My advice: Don't feed the arrogant Hollywood Beastie. Then just maybe we can EVENTUALLY score some quality programming. Well, maybe ... but unless or until it gets better, boycott both the Hollywood and Media Whores. :shrug: :-)

[Jed Dilligan]

28. What do you do for a living? nt

[RB TexLa]

29. I don't go to any of the social events for my industry

If it's an awarded trip I take the cash alternative.

[Jed Dilligan]

30. Well, good for you

But you didn't answer my question.

[RB TexLa]

31. And not going to answer that question when posed by a stranger

on the internet.

[ShortnFiery]

34. IMO that's sound judgment ...

My best recommendation is to gently steer your wife away from this, IMO, trash TV.

Go for a nice walk in the evenings: A genuine thought to use as an possible alternative.

With respect, SnF.

[Jed Dilligan]

45. Then I'll just say

I probably think what you do is silly, and the people who do it are pompous and self-congratulatory. Whereas I respect actors. That is all.

[trixie]

56. I will agree with you on this point

[Connie_Corleone]

39. You can either turn it off or go do something else while your wife

watches it.

[formerrepuke]

40. Only the Oscars: and the statuettes during the war were made of plaster

and covered in gold paint. And many of the leading men in Hollywood DID serve in the military: James Stewart, Clark Gable, Eddie Albert, Tyrone Power..among better known names.

[zbdent]

47. Don't forget

Maxwell Smart's real life persona Don Adams ...

and Charles Durning of "Evening Shade" ... he spoke at the D-Day gathering a number of years back, having actually been there when the bullets were flying ...

[nosillies]

41. Umm, was your remote broken?

It's quite common to make fun of repug types who moan about what's on TV and how it is destroying minds and lives. We laugh that they should just quit bitching, turn off what they don't like, and let everyone have the freedom to watch what they want. How is this any different?

Every industry has their awards. If other industries had this much money, they'd probably glam up and televise their awards if they could, too. I work in this industry, so I pay attention to its awards, whether I watch them live or catch up the next day. If, for example, the real estate industry started televising their awards, I JUST WOULDN'T WATCH because it would bore me to tears. (I take that back -- I'd probably watch the pre-show to see what people are wearing.) But I wouldn't complain about all those shallow, idiotic, untalented real estate agents out there!

[RaleighNCDUer]

42. But can you imagine the show they'd put on?

All kinds of mini-docs about the multi-million dollar estates, the office towers, Best Sale of an Overpriced Beach House, awards handed out by the up-and-comers who started with a borrowed $5000 and last season brought in 1.5 milliion - Part Time!

Come to think of it, I believe I saw that show.

[RebelOne]

43. There weren't any televisions during WWII,

so how could there have been any awards shows?

[RB TexLa]

44. you don't have to have a television camera to have a show

just like there was news shows before television.

[bling bling]

46. Man, you're being raked over the coals, aren't you?

Well here's a supportive response to balance it out a little.

I actually admire people who don't belittle themselves by falling for that insulting bullshit. The stars invite us to "join" them vicariously through our television to watch them pamper themselves, strut down the red carpet in clothes and jewelry that could literally feed a family of four for years, and pat each other on the back and give each other trophies for being so artistic. Oh, and then we can "join" them afterwards and watch them from our crummy little houses having a grand party and living the good life. Weeeeeeeee.

I hate to say that I fall for it to some degree myself. I buy People magazine occasionally and look at the Fashion Police online.

But all I have to do to remember how sick it all is, is to watch MTV Cribs as they take a tour through a rich musician or star's mansion. It drives me batshit crazy watching these people show off their unnecessary excesses and all of them seem to have at least 4 ultra-expensive luxury cars. And most stars have at least two mansions in different parts of the country.

The waste of money should be fucking illegal. None of us should tolerate that. Not as long as there are children in the world that look like this:



These filthy rich ACTORS ought to live like normal people and use their money to feed these children. Any decent human being ought to be ashamed to spend so lavishly on materials like they do when there are children who can't walk because they're so weak from starvation.

[RaleighNCDUer]

48. These filthy rich actors ARE normal people.

And however you may feel about it, there is not a star that didn't earn his place because if you don't have the skills, if you don't have the talent, you don't become a star. In this fashion, George Clooney and Mel Gibson are exactly alike.

And for every star out there there are thousands who do the shlub work, thousands of wannabes who didn't get the breaks, chose the wrong projects or the wrong managers, who are just as skilled as many of the stars. And, thought I cannot support this with numbers, I would be willing to bet that film stars contribute far more to charities than do equally well paid sports stars - and they probably donate in proportion to what 'normal' people donate. If a 'normal' person sends $21 monthly to Children International, the star will drop a $50,000 check to the same sort of charity.

Are some of them self indulgent assholes? Yeah. But you don't need to be rich to be that. I know plenty of that type who can't rub two nickles together.

It's beginning to sound a lot like envy.

[bling bling]

57. Oh, so you charter a jet to bring you a cup of coffee? How normal.

I didn't say the stars aren't normal people. I said they don't LIVE like normal people. They live a life of ultra-materialism, gross excess, and waste to the degree that I literally think it should be against the law. Society should NOT allow people to have so much money that they have private jets bring them their stuff on the set while children in this world are starving.

And $21 to a normal person is most likely a lot more money to that person than $50k to a star. I accidentally bought the wrong "rug gripper" the other day. I thought I was buying the cheap $4.00 one and ended up purchasing a $16.00 one. I cut it up to put it under the four corners of the rug and the next day I realized my mistake when I looked at my receipt. I was sick to my stomach over it because it was too late to take it back. All I could think about was how much I could have done with that $12.00 I wasted, like buy my baby a Halloween outfit or myself a tee-shirt on the clearance rack from Old Navy. I buy nothing except for what I need. When I donate to anything it literally means I have to sacrifice something else. I'm not going to kiss some stars ass for donating $50,000 when they've got 26 million in the bank. They don't make ANY sacrifices in order to donate. And I think it's disgusting that we've got children who are too weak to walk because they're so hungry when there are people who could do SOOOOOOOO much more to help them. They could give 20 million of their 26 million to feeding and educating people. Hell, they'd still have 6 million left. What do you need more than 6 million dollars for?

I don't know what to say in response to your thinking that I'm just secretly jealous. If that's what you think, so be it. It's not like it matters one way or the other what my true motives are, the stars will forever continue to waste (to an obscene degree) an incredibly valuable resource regardless of what I think about it.

[WI_DEM]

50. yes, the academy awards were still held during WWII

[DarbyUSMC]

51. I believe if we canceled all sporting events; put a moratorium on new

movies being released and subsequently the gazillion award shows; did not acknowledge holidays of any sort; only bought gas enough for basics (and used public transportation as much as possible); postponed all vacations and stopped eating in restaurants, we would have the government by their cajones. Our men and women would be home so fast, they wouldn't have time to get the sand out of their hair.

We need every American out of the Middle East; not just our military. We commit a crime if we go to Cuba however we have Americans living "the life" in Saudi while their fellow Americans are being shot to hell and back in Afghanistan and Iraq. We can't have it both ways. Business can be conducted via the Internet, phone or fax.

[cmkramer]

52. Awards shows were not cancelled after 9/11

However, the primetime Emmys were delayed by a week. The Oscars were also delayed back when Reagan was shot, and I remember there being some controversy when the Oscars were not delayed after MLK Jr. was assassinated -- this was back when the Oscar telecast took place in April.

FWIW, the Oscars went on as usual during World War II but in a much more scaled--down fashion

[MS68]

53. I think last night was the first time I've ever watched....

At least in a lot of years - I thought it was fun. Conan did a great job. That segment in the beginning when he jumped from show to show was hilarious - especially when he was in Southpark and in the closet with Tom Cruise, and Cloe from 24 told him to "Get off the phone - idiot". It was great!

Jon Stewart and the TDS won a couple of awards, Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert were hilarious as presenters, Conan made some crack about Fox and fake news and all of the clips from the TDS and the Colbert Report were anti-Bush segments.

The only low point for me was when the chick from Law and Order - SVU won as best actress. That was lame.

I had only planned on tuning in for a few minutes to see how Conan was doing, since I like him and ended up getting sucked in and watching the whole thing.

[BlueManDude]

58. Why aren't the baseball stars of today going off to war?

legitimate question?

[NaturalHigh]

59. I don't watch awards shows...

but can anyone tell me if they did anything to honor Jerry Orbach last night? Law and Order is not the same without him.