O'Reilly Factor and the World Church of the Creator are linked!

[EstimatedProphet]

I was just watching a documentary on LinkTV about Somali refugees resettling in Lewiston ME. It included several interviews, one of which was with a leader of the World Church of the Creator - a white supremacist "church". He said that a lot of the information he uses comes from the O'Reilly Factor website! So, it's true after all: The O'Reilly Factor is racist!

[INDIA]

1. Bit of a stretch? n/t

[Kingshakabobo]

11. Makes about as much sense as.......

.....O'Lielly, Malkin, et al. cherry picking random kooky comments from liberal websites and using the posts to smear all liberals. Makes about as much sense as Malkin writing an entire book based on hate-mail she receives and using that mail to smear all liberals. Makes about as much sense as some chicken-hawk siting on his ass calling Jack Murtha a coward for wanting to bring troops home - calling him a coward when, in fact, it's not HIS personal safety that is at risk(not to mention the fact that HIS ass WAS on the line for 30 years when the biggest rethug mouthpieces never served a day).

Why do WE always have to make sense? Why can't WE put "2 and 2 together" once in a while and come up with 3?

[Eric J in MN]

2. I used to have a liberal blog...

...and a lot of right-wingers posted dubious comments on my blog.

I don't think I should be held accountable for those right-wing commenters.

[EstimatedProphet]

3. No, maybe you shouldn't

However, I do think it is important to note that MEMBERS OF THE WORLD CHURCH OF THE CREATOR USE THE O'REILLY FACTOR AS A WATERSHED.

[Raffi Ella]

4. You should post more information about this "church"

so we can get a better idea of what they're about but yeah,it does say a lot that a Church of any sort would be using the hate filled propagandists show the o'rielly factor as a means for information...

[EstimatedProphet]

6. Good point

http://www.wtotc.com although you'll have to go there yourself - I patently refuse to go there and give them hits. they are listed as a white supremacist hate group.

And I just can't get over posting the fact that MEMBERS OF THE WORLD CHURCH OF THE CREATOR USE THE O'REILLY FACTOR TO GET THEIR INFORMATION.

[Clovis Sangrail]

7. they're pretty well known

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Church_of_the_Creator

[EstimatedProphet]

16. They are well known

It's been listed as one of the worst hate groups out there. And now we know that THE WORLD CHURCH OF THE CREATOR HAS MEMBERS THAT GET IDEAS AND INFORMATION FROM BILL O'REILLY'S WEBSITE.

[INDIA]

5. I agree that the information is "important" and noteworthy...

but you originally claimed that this somehow "links" the two parties, which is ridiculous at best. I've heard that Rev. Fred Phelps is a registered Democrat. That doesn't "link" him to the Democratic Party in any way, nor does it mean Dems are racist.

It was a good try.....I guess. You should change the title though, you falsely led me to believe that there was an actual connection between the two, like O'Lielley donating to the church or a church member working for the show. THAT would be an actual link.

What I'm trying to say here is......this post is stupid.

[EstimatedProphet]

8. Actually, what I'm trying to do is sarcasm

And I left out the sarcasm tag on purpose to give it weight.

Besides, I hate the O'Reilly Factor and I enjoy saying the MEMBERS OF THE WORLD CHURCH OF THE CREATOR, A WHITE SUPREMACIST ORGANIZATION, USE THE O'REILLY FACTOR TO GET IDEAS.

[INDIA]

9. Fair nuff' n/t

[EstimatedProphet]

10. OK

See, I figured at first that people would think that I was trying to seriously make A CONNCETION BETWEEN MEMBERS OF THE WORLD CHURCH OF THE CREATOR AND BILL O'REILLY. I'm not, I'm just using his argument style against him. I figure that if Bill O'Reilly can claim that liberals are all Communists trying to overthrow the government because he finds some message from a crackpot, then it's only fair to point out that MEMBERS OF THE WORLD CHURCH OF THE CREATOR GO TO THE O'REILLY FACTOR WEBSITE TO GET THEIR INFORMATION.

Turnabout being fair play and all.

[Kingshakabobo]

12. Besides that fact that you are unable to grasp sarcasm........

......you clearly aren't up to speed on rethug talking points as they HAVE gone out of their way to link Dems and Phelps.

I won't call you ignorant but YOUR post is "stupid."

[INDIA]

13. Ok smart guy, answer me this...

Usually when people are being sarcastic on DU, (besides using the sarcasm emoticon), they are arguing a point to the contrary of what they are being sarcastic about. If the OP is being sarcastic about O'Lielley being racist, then he is implying that O'Lielly is in fact NOT racist.

Examples: "Why do you hate freedom?" means, it is ridiculous to say a Dem hates freedom or democracy because they do not agree with Shrub's administration. "Clenis caused all these problems" is stating that it is ridiculous for Republicans to blame Clinton's Lewinsky affair on recent events. "O'Reilley's show is racist", being sarcastic, would imply that it is ridiculous to assert that the show is racist. Why would I expect someone to, through sarcasm, defend O'Reilley on DU? It was a misuse of sarcasm as an argument, and I, along with several other posters missed it.

BTW: How easy is it really to pick up sarcasm on a blog? I can't see the person I'm talking to, nor hear the telling inflection that would be in his/her voice implying sarcasm. Especially when (IMO) sarcasm is being questionably used, it's not that easy. The original poster himself didn't even indicate the sarcasm until relatively far down in the thread, after several replies questioning his train of thought.

I'm not aware of any mainstream Republican talking points trying to link Phelps and the Democratic Party. I would assume such an attempted link would be so silly as to garner very little attention. Care to enlighten me?

MY post was stupid? Talk about the pot calling the kettle....

[EstimatedProphet]

14. Actually, I'm being sarcastic about the methodology

Critical thinking reveals the logical fallacy of saying the BILL O'REILLY IS A BIGOT BECAUSE THE WORLD CHURCH OF THE CREATOR GETS THEIR FACTS FROM HIM. (I still like to say it though) After all, no one can really be held responsible for someone taking facts out of context from their publication to use toward their own ends. But, the argument saying that THE WORLD CHURCH OF THE CREATOR USES THE O'REILLY FACTOR WEBSITE IN ORDER TO FORMULATE RACIST IDEAS is just as valid as the kind of crap that O'Reilly says when he tries to damn all liberals with a broad-brush. What I'm really being sarcastic about is the method, and I figured the best way would be to keep repeating that THE O'REILLY FACTOR WEBSITE IS USED AS A SOURCE FOR RACIST INFORMATION BY THE WORLD CHURCH OF THE CREATOR.

Or I'm just being a smartass. I'm not sure which. But I have to admit that it does feel good to point out that BILL O'REILLYS WEBSITE IS READ BY RACISTS FOR IDEAS.

[Kingshakabobo]

15. I think EstimatedProphet addressed most of your blather so.....

....I'll only address two points.

1) Why did you feel the need to defend O'Lielly in the first place? Why do you love O'Lielly. Why do you hate liberals?

:sarcasm: (kinda, well not really)

2) As for the "stupid" comment. That was me giving you a taste of your own rudeness medicine. Do we need a smilie for that too?

[walldude]

17. So are you saying that

THE O'REILLY FACTOR WEBSITE IS USED AS A SOURCE FOR RACIST INFORMATION BY THE WORLD CHURCH OF THE CREATOR. Because you really can't blame O'Reilly if THE O'REILLY FACTOR WEBSITE IS USED AS A SOURCE FOR RACIST INFORMATION BY THE WORLD CHURCH OF THE CREATOR. I mean the Factor is a no spin zone, if there is really no spin and THE O'REILLY FACTOR WEBSITE IS USED AS A SOURCE FOR RACIST INFORMATION BY THE WORLD CHURCH OF THE CREATOR then that would mean that THE O'REILLY FACTOR WEBSITE IS A SOURCE FOR RACIST INFORMATION. So I really can't be sure that THE O'REILLY FACTOR WEBSITE IS USED AS A SOURCE FOR RACIST INFORMATION BY THE WORLD CHURCH OF THE CREATOR. It's all heresay.

[EstimatedProphet]

18. Exactly

I mean, I know that it's true that saying THE WORLD CHURCH OF THE CREATOR USES THE O'REILLY FACTOR WEBSITE AS AN IDEA BANK really is a stretch. However, I have to admit that the fact that THE WORLD CHURCH OF THE CREATOR USES THE O'REILLY FACTOR WEBSIT TO GET INFORMATION does imply that there is likely racist information on the website itself. Otherwise, what would be the point for THE WORLD CHURCH OF THE CREATOR USING THE O'REILLY FACTOR WEBSITE AS A SOURCE FOR INFORMATION?