Staying The Course In Iraq Means a Draft in 2007 -- We Are Out of Troops

[Dems Will Win]

Bush avoided having to call a draft in 2006 by hiring tens of thousands of mercenaries to provide security and even do interrogations and intimidate people, through "stop-loss orders" (the backdoor draft), and by activating the IRR, the Individual Ready Reserve.

That is all over now. We have hired just about every available mercenary on the planet, and there are only so many. Now that the Civil War has started, not many more new mercenaries will be stupid enough to sign up, so that is done. We can't stop-loss enough men either, and the IRR is only good for several thousand more men--the rest are not reporting and disappearing.

On top of all the wounded and dead, there are also now several thousand desertions, leaving the President with one option for the 2007 rotation: The Draft. He simply announces we are not going to Cut and Run and Rove strongarms the GOP into reinstating the Combat Draft, the Medical Draft and the new Skills Draft. With the Draft, Bush would suddenly have enough troops to not only take back Iraq and Afghanistan but also conquer and occupy Syria and Khuzestan, Iran (where all the oil is).

Then the GOP can continue to sit on the oil and keep it in the ground so gasoline prices remain high and they all get rich.

Mission Accomplished.

Here are 557 recent news reports on the IRR callup and the reality of a coming draft:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&ncl=http://english.people.com.cn/200608/25/eng20060825_296735.html

Vote Republican in '06 and Get Drafted in '07!

PLEASE RECOMMEND THIS THREAD AND GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT THE LACK OF TROOPS AND THE REAL REALITY OF A DRAFT IN 2007.

[stubtoe]

1. I will be interested to see how those erstwhile "security moms" vote

this time around, should this info manage to get air time prior to November.

[Dems Will Win]

3. Every Repuke who says "Stay The Course" should then be asked:

"Since there you want to win in Iraq, we obviously need more troops, but with the IRR callup, it is obvious there are no more troops, especially for 2007. We would need a draft to win in Iraq, just to stay in Iraq. Do you support bring back the draft, and if not how do the Republicans intend to continue to occupy Iraq?"

Then watch them turn purple...

[liberal N proud]

6. Anyone who supports bu$h's war should be asked to take up a gun

and get on a plane bound for Iraq.
If they support it they should fight for it.

[atreides1]

2. One other thing for Bush to be concerned about

A lot of pissed off troops who've done their time, and may want payback from the politicians, all of the politicians.

Looking at history, when you've pissed on the military, they eventually will want to get even.


Just a thought!!!

[INDIA]

4. I really doubt it.

the repukes are smarter than that. Rove knows that a draft would basically hand the '08 election to a Dem. They'll just keep pouring money into contractors and military recruiting(propaganda).

I remember that Moveon took out a full page ad in my schools newspaper right before the 2004 elections about the liklihood of a draft if shrub got elected. Hasn't happened yet, and IMO, it won't.

[Dems Will Win]

5. There are few mercenaries left to hire

and recruiting has cratered with the Civil War. It's either Cut and Run or Draft.

Don't forget we will soon be fighting the Shia Militias full-time. Plus Rove polled the GOP Caucus and received confirmation in September 2003 they would approve a draft if Bush needed one.

[TheWraith]

7. Snort.

Same story as heard in 2003, 2004, and 2005...

[Subdivisions]

9. True, but if * remains on his present course,

a comprehensive draft is not a matter of if, but a matter of when.

[genie_weenie]

8. The Regime WILL NEVER use a draft...

Please understand there are plenty more Marines and Soldiers to call up from IRR duty and even if they are angry the Government can always say "USMC" You Signed the Motherfucking Contract. Also those persons have already been sent through Boot, MOS training, and probably a deployment (or 2 or 3) while a draft will bring in a group of very angry persons, who's training alone will take minimum 6 months and will all try an emulate M*A*S*H in their behavior.

So, to sum up. Every non-Veteran DUer can go back to ignoring the troops and doing nothing more than typing angry posts because their ass will not be put in the fire.

[Subdivisions]

10. Ignoring the troops?

Who's ignoring the troops?

[genie_weenie]

14. I'm rather cynical

But, I don't see much going on in the way of actually getting the troops out of the grinder. As was stated by Army SGT Beatty in Gunner Palace, "After you watch this, you're gonna go get your popcorn out of the microwave and talk about what I said, and you'll forget me by the end of this."

And typing witty or insightful messages on the DU is not stopping the next 29 months of deployments upcoming

The Regime has done an excellent job of tergeting the main enemy in the Iraq War. The American Populace, the propaganda, IO and psyops campaigns have reduced all discussion to you are either for America and Staying the Course or you are an Al Qaeda supporter who is a chicken shit Cut-n-Run Coward.

Also since the Reigme has asked for absoultely no sacrifce from most Americans and the tramatic brain injuries and parapalegic wounded are hidden from sight the War will continue...

[RaleighNCDUer]

11. This cannot be done, of course, in the current climate.

A draft would lose them the Senate & WH in '08 (assuming they already lost the House in '06). Neither can they cut and run -- they'd lose their base and thus lose the election in '08. But they CANNOT lose in '08 -- too many of them will wind up being investigated for their myriad crimes. So they must have the draft, which they cannot have, so they must change the climate.

If there was a significant terror attack on US soil that demanded a response, they could justify a draft and, at least briefly, the majority of Americans would support it. It only needs support for as long as it takes to get it going. If the attack comes soon enough it could even save them the House this fall, as well as give them the draft.

I believe they hoped that the Lebanon crisis would give them the incident they needed to provoke a war with Syria and Iran. It didn't, so that leaves very limited options. Give up, or have an Iranian sponsored terror attack on the US. They are not going to give up.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

12. If a draft comes out, I'm going for CO.

If that fails, I'm leaving the country. End of story. No way in hell am I fighting in his goddamned fucking WAR.

Call me a coward, but I refuse to kill another human being in any circumstance, last of all *'s illegal war.

[Warren Stupidity]

13. There won't be a draft without an enabling cover story.

They will need another reichstag fire to pull this one off. Without another major strike inside the US (and of course assuming that we don't actully fall into a real major war with a real army) a draft is not going to happen.

[newspeak]

15. well, if they're worried about bodies, how about money?

I got a feeling our treasury is looking rather bare. With feds decreasing money to states, social programs, vet programs--corps have had a windfall of profits, mostly with no accountability, can they afford it?

[Warren Stupidity]

17. They are not even stretched.

The cuts are ideological and nothing more. They have had no problem running huge deficits. War is always fundable.

[Generic Other]

16. The draft will be the roadblock that derails the course

How many of those who won't fight voluntarily will do so involuntarily. Can't wait to see how the yuppie children whose parents have "invested" so much in their well-being from cradle to little league to ivy league will just sign on for this course.

[Dems Will Win]

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