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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:15 PM
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girl escapes her "master" after 8 years
Austrian girl escapes her "master" after 8 years
Thu Aug 24, 2006


VIENNA (Reuters) - An Austrian teenager who escaped eight years' captivity in the hands a man she had to call "master" simply asked for her favorite toy car when was reunited with her family, her father said on Thursday.

The disappearance of Natascha Kampusch at the age of 10 as she walked to school in 1998 remains one of Austria's most baffling crime mysteries.

Speaking about the moment the family was reunited, Kampusch's father, Ludwig Koch, told the Austrian daily Kurier: "She said: 'Dad, I love you.' And the next question was: 'Is my toy car still there?' It was Natascha's favorite toy, I never gave it away in all those years."

"I always put out of my mind the thought that she was dead."

He and her half-sister identified the 18-year-old on Wednesday and were joined by her mother on Thursday at the hotel where Kampusch is staying at with a policewoman and a psychologist.


Here's what the creep looks like. Does that jawline remind you of any other sexually aggressive Austrian?
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:24 PM
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1. hmmmm.....the link doesn't seem to work for me n/t
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:31 PM
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2. Sorry. Here's about 400 other links to this story
Via a Google News search for the phrase "Austrian girl escapes her "master". You might also try Googling for the name "Wolfgang Priklopil"--the perv in question
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:39 PM
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3. The "creep" is celebrated in online porn.
Okay, like most guys out there, I read online porn. (Except I don't mind admitting it.)

Over the last few years, I've been troubled by the increasing amount of exploitation, capturing, non-consentual and "capture" porn that's been showing up. Instead of showing sex as something both sexes can enjoy, there seems to be a lot of guys who write about kidnapping and torture.

I'm not a right-winger who would ban all sexual content. But I think it's only fair to note when some of that content is troublesome. And yes, I know I don't have to read stories I disagree with (and I don't), but I can't help but wonder about the guys reading it.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 09:21 AM
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13. However, there are also women out there who have fantasies involving
exploitation, capture, non-concentual sex etc. It goes both ways. While there are guys who are acting out on their fantasies illegally, there is also a safe, sane and consensual way to explore those fantasies with women who are also into that scene.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 06:30 PM
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15. Of course this guy doesn't have the brains to approach a would be partner
He's beyond sick, beyond evil.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 07:03 PM
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17. Exactly.
I'm fine with adults acting out whatever fantasies they want and honestly there is an adult partner out there for every fantasy. This guy is just sick and evil and porn has nothing to do with it. Personally, I feel he should be locked away for the rest of what is sure to be a brief prison life.
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Kiouni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 01:22 AM
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4. what does someone
do like that? They have no education and little to no social skills...i feel terriable about this story but i saw one story similar to this one here in the states and i wondered about the follow up story.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 05:08 AM
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5. Ever notice the bias against sex crime victims?
In this story, for instance:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060825.ABDUCTED25/TPStory/TPInternational/Europe/

This teenaged GIRL is referred to as "Ms" and a "woman". She was a CHILD when she was abducted, and a TEEN when she escaped.

Yet if boys are accused of crimes, esp. against girls, they're referred to as "teens" or "young males" instead of "Mr" or "men". :mad:
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 05:20 AM
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7. Well, She Is Now A Young Woman
I think it may be done in part to show her some respect; perhaps that is merely how I read it.

As for your second point about minimizing mens' responsibility for sex crimes and calling them 'boys' and and 'teens,' I couldn't agree more. There is too much of that, "aw shucks, you know how boys are" when in fact, most men and boys aren't like that at all - they know the difference between sex and rape.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 07:13 AM
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9. I think the distinction is more
"victim/alleged perpetrator" than "male/female".

My impression, although it's not something I've paid much attention to, is that when males are victims of crime they're usually referred to as "men", and that when late-teens females commit or are accused of committing it they're usually "girls".
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 05:18 AM
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6. Ahh, finally a perv that isn't a fundie.

I was beginning to think freepers had cornered the market. Instead he's a cable guy.

WRT another reply in this thread -- the subject matter, styles, and attitudes expressed in a culture's pornography are perhaps the most telling material about its underlying health. Kinda makes you shiver, eh?

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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 05:27 AM
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8. A Culture's Attitude About Sex, At Least
The US is among the most prudish western countries around. The generalized 'we' think sex is dirty, to be giggled about, shameful and these attitudes hae only gotten worse oh lets say in the last six and half years or so (well, 20, really). 'We' don't discuss it honestly unless we're talking about death, disease or abortion or the horrible people that encounter any of the above because they do that awful thing.

And porn is a multi-billion dollar business. 'We' (and I coud probably generalize less here) love sex and try to do it as much as possible. We sexualize children and use sex to sell anything because sex is, well, sexy and everyone wants it. 'We' just can't admit it (unless procreation is involved, and it's a plus if it's then become a chore or involves a team of doctors). So the desires get hidden, and when things get hidden, they're freer to become a little more ... extreme, because consensual nonprocreative sex between two trusting partners is just as wrong as kidnapping a young woman (or girl or boy) and using that person like an object. It's all equally bad.
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Kickoutthejams23 Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 08:44 AM
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10. The guy isn't American. He lives in Austria.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 06:31 PM
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16. Not for long, I hope
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 09:09 AM
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11. what a fucking nutbar
8 years?? i'm just glad the woman escaped and didn't end up chopped up somewhere....
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 09:18 AM
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12. To spend her years from 10-18 at the hands of that monster
Edited on Fri Aug-25-06 09:20 AM by Lone_Star_Dem
To think of all the things he's taken away from her and the damage he's done to her enrages me.

I wish her and her family the best and a future filled with goodness.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 06:27 PM
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14. Absolutely. No socialization in such formative years. In the article...
her first reaction to being positively ID'd by her family, was to ask her father if he still had her toy truck. This is an 18 year old asking for a comfort toy like that. That's how traumatized, how emotionally frozen she's become from this nightmare.

Actually, even words like "nightmare" and "living hell" don't seem to convey what she's been thru.
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