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fencesitter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:44 PM
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Who are your heros?
Sports players? actors? writers?

Me: Bill Moyers: "Moyers is the only public figure who can take the entire discussion and shove it toward moral clarity just by being there."

Molly Ivans

I'll think of more, give me a minute. Yours?
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:46 PM
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1. Some 50,000 names on a wall in Washington
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larrysh Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:49 PM
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2. Growing up....a tie between Ann Margaret and Diana Riggs......
Today.....Britney Spears and the girl in the Taco Commercial.....
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:52 PM
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6. What about Brittney's taco?
I missed something..."Brittney" and "hero" in the same thread? Does not compute...does not compute...
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fencesitter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:50 PM
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3. whew.
No doubt about it.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:51 PM
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4. People who get up every day and work their asses off
for less than it takes to live on, who maintain a quiet dignity and try to do the best job they can in spite of what managers throw at them, who are despised by media and the GOP and derided as fools and chumps by all the "smart" people who wear suits and who depend on them utterly for their very existence.

You know, the people the DLC abandoned a long time ago. They are my heroes and heroines and they aren't fools. Because they sit home on election day, the Democrats have been knocked out of all three branches of government.

If the party ever rediscovers its base, my heroes, then perhaps we'll start to get our country back. If not, learn to love fascism because that's what we will have.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:00 PM
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10. Ever see the movie the Bronx Tale?
Edited on Thu Aug-24-06 11:03 PM by augie38
If that was true life, DeNiro would be my hero.

The guy who works eight hours a day, day in and day out, just to support his family and never giving up in the face of adversity.
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 12:20 AM
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32. That's Painfully True...
We are in a battle not only against the Republican Menace, but a massive infection that's killing the Democratic Party.

We do also need to remember who we're here for and redirect our party's official priorities (once we have at least the power to participate in our own government) by remembering (as you say, rediscovering) what's really important. We should be a populist, labor party that governs rationally in a secular manner. The common people are the vast majority, and while the wealthy have always composed the majority of our elected representatives, for a time the common people had some power and were listened to (post WWII and during the days of organized labor), alas that time has ended utterly. We must empower the people.

Also, if anything, our party needs to move itself and as much of the country as possible, even farther to the Left--no more of this 'moderate' DINO or 'centrist' RDDINOs (Republicans Dressed as Democrats In Name Only). We can stand up for our ideologies; when they're right and good, ideals and idealists are fine (probably a Republican plot--the 'negative' connotations now associated with the word "idealist"; then again, any Republican "idealist" would, by their very existence be a negative smear on the word's meaning...). The truth is... it's very hard to find truly charismatic people who inspire and thereby are naturally "leaders" unless they have clear, consistent and strong ideals; is it any wonder that we suffer so many weak, feeble, indecisive and non- or anti-charismatic leaders, when many are trying to draw a compromist towards what they wrongly perceive as the "center" in a desperate effort to attract votess. Of course, in the real world, a politician has to get votes or they go unemployed--and we can't benefit from unemployed Democratic politicians (at least not nearly as much as we can by elected ones).

We need "the people" to realize where their true and best politics lie, and, of course, that's with the Democratic Party (even if they're not comfortable with a few petty issues). How do we do this? Or why have so many become such staunch Republicans while simultaneously being unable to recognize how they're being used? Simple enough, a great many people's world view, including attitudes, opinions and political awareness is formed primarily from their main source of information and entertainment: tv (radio, newspapers, etc)(ie. the M$M).

We don't control the public's main sources of information (and pre-digested news/opinion), and Republicans (and Republican supporting types; that is, Corporations/Business) do (worse, they "own" most of it and control all of it--and their representatives controlling our government have removed all useful regulation on their use of "our" broadcast spectrum). Without fairness in the media, the formation of people's outlook is going to be unfortunately biased against us. Children absorb much from television, when they've grown up--we may be wondering about the 50% or 70% "backwash" (blind supporters of Republican worldview). It's probably our greatest problem.

Electoral fraud is a huge problem, but it pales by comparison to the damage done to the American consciousness--bot short and long term, and it's more easily fixed (paper ballot anyone?). Without the wealth and business acumen needed to achieve similar media representation, we'll have to depend upon winning enough elections to pass laws or make regulations to restrain or disband the media oligopoly. Alas, without fair media coverage, it's getting harder and harder to win elections. Something's gotta give. Something's gotta change.

Get America's real issues, job loss, artificial economic props hiding a looming depression, massive debt, people suffering, children very much being left behind--including more and more of the middle class's children, the destruction of the middle class, the rise of dominionism/theocracy, the government's corruption, the absurd tax cuts and who benefits and by how much, the gigantic and growing gap between the rich and everybody else, America's class war and the existence and growth of our own "aristocracy", and so much more, on tv... and present the "divisive" issues fairly, and all of America (nearly) would be actively voting with us and supporting Democratic policies. Once again we would be able to take real positions with populists, progressive, labor and liberal ideals and be able to get elected. Fear would evaporate and America might once more be respected in the world.

TV is Job One. With it, we progress. Against it, we struggle. Through it, we reach the people and our liberal ideals are enabled. Imagine how fast the voter fraud issue would become an urgent matter that our leaders would take seriously... if only it got honest coverage. If the Bush lies had been exposed by the News (with them doing their job), is there any question whether or not we'd have started an illegal war? In effect, TV and the major media (mass media)--as a single unit, is the largest component of what we call "free speech". It is the main source of information for most people (alas). What can we do, though... Perhaps instead of, or in addition to massive public demonstrations against the war, or over immigration, imagine such demanding a restoration of the FCC's Fairness Doctrine and the M$M Corporations be broken up under anti-trust laws (newly made ones if need be)? Without TV coverage, how many people did modern "public demonstrations" reach? Many, yes, but consider how many would be reached with a continuous focus on the particular issues on television--and done honestly (which, cutely enough, means to be done with massive bias in favor of the Democratic positions--the reverse of today).

Convince 60 million Democrats to invest $100 (= $6 Billion) towards the purchase or creation of a Democratic News Network or the STN Broadcasting Company (Simple Truth Network). If need be, do that once each year. Ask Democratic investors to forego dividents so they can be reinvested towards the business... so in two years, we'd have more than $12 Billion. Realize that many Democrats could invest alot more than $100... and that there are more than 60 million Democrats of voting age (though the extra number didn't vote)(some were obstructed though). Can't we do this? Perhaps we could get Ted Turner or someone who knows the media industry to either manage or advise... Why can't we do this? Add this to the existing efforts to create a Democratic media presence for even better growth. Granted, this wouldn't achieve parity with all the other networks, but at least it would be out there. Alas, with cable and satellite network distribution controlled by "Corporate-minded Corporations", and they'd no doubt obstruct efforts to build a Democratically oriented network--we might not be able, without significant political wrangling and pressure, even be able to get on your TV. So, it wouldnt' be easy. We shoudn't wait; 2008 is approaching (at approximately one minute closer every 60 seconds! we'd better hurry!).
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:52 PM
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5. Abbie Hoffman,Medea Benjiman,MLK,Ghandi,John Muir
DUers,MalcomX,Elenor Roosevelt,Helen Keller

My mom my dad , My grandparents , my kid, my husband and his
mom .
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:53 PM
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7. I like your choice of Moyers up there, and would add a list that included
Bella Abzug, Mario Cuomo, Robert Kennedy, Joni Mitchell, Duke Ellington, James Taylor, Jackson Browne, John Kerry, Elizabeth Taylor, Gore Vidal, Dr. Don Blake (aka Thor), Joan Didion, Andrew Holleran, and Ann Sexton.
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fencesitter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:56 PM
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8. Niel Young
Getting pretty vocal in his present years
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:00 PM
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9. I have so many
The ones who are taking care of incapacitated loved ones.
The working poor who are overcoming huge obstacles just to get through a day.
The people who are doing a job not for money but what it can do for others.
People like the guy who owns Costco who runs his company not only for the bottom line but also to give his employees a living wage and good working conditions.

Oh, and those ASPCA cops on Animal Planet out there rescuing animals. I adore them.
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:00 PM
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11. Cindy Sheehan,
Robert Kennedy,Jr., John Dean, Doctors Without Borders
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:02 PM
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12. Clarence Darrow
1857-1938
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:05 PM
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13. I'll second your choices.
Molly Ivins has been mine since I lived in San Antonio, Texas, almost ten years ago, the first time I ever knew her.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:14 PM
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14. Patriot Michael Moore
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:54 PM
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28. good choice
i am blown away by his gift and his courage

how could a guy from flint turn the documentary into something people would actually want to see?

we all know of his political gift but he has a damn fine artistic gift as well

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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:16 PM
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15. My Heroes Are My Mom & Dad
They have shown nothing but love to me my whole life. I love them so much.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:16 PM
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16. Cindy Sheehan. Also, Bruce Wayne
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:19 PM
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17. Grandpa, Dali Llama, mom, dad, mathematicians,
Chess players (kasparov to crazy ass fischer), missionaries (yeah, I can explain that one), and many more folks.

Sports, other then chess - very few in sports.

Scientists, some theologians, and writers.

I got a lot of em :)
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:21 PM
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18. Jerry Garcia. Bill Hicks. Michael Stipe. The Dalai Lama. Robert A. Wilson.
Edited on Thu Aug-24-06 11:22 PM by impeachdubya
Salvador Dali. Alex Grey. Thomas Jefferson.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:24 PM
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19. FDR, Ben Franklin, James Madison, Abe Lincoln, Gandhi, Eisenhower
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:27 PM
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20. Respectfully, it's hard to take seriously misspelled hero posts
I would like to think that DUers with heroes would spel there namzs rite.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:35 PM
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22. it's out only hope for the presidency
mispellars rule!
:headbang:
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:45 PM
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24. That is hugh!!!11!1
U Rooll!!11!!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 01:12 AM
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36. ....
Edited on Fri Aug-25-06 01:13 AM by Bluebear
:spray:
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Tyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:33 PM
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21. Lieutenant Ehren K. Watada
This guy needs our support and help. He is one military guy who takes his oath as an officer seriously and is standing up and calling Bush and the NeoCons on their lies and their trashing of the Constitution.
http://www.thankyoult.org/
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The Watchman Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:39 PM
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23. the should be president:
I gotta say Howard Dean, for being the first Democrat to stand up to Bush and dare to say the war was wrong. he got slimed by the media and the republican noise machine, made to pay for his crime of saying the truth.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 08:58 AM
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43. Welcome to DU! nt
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 02:58 PM
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44. Hi The Watchman!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:46 PM
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25. Cindy Sheehan and
Al Gore
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:49 PM
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26. Tolstoy, Beethoven, Picasso, Shakespeare, Bach.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:51 PM
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27. doris lessing (the writer)
Edited on Thu Aug-24-06 11:57 PM by pitohui
a courageous woman who seems to live life on her own terms and not care what anybody else thinks

i thought of her as politically courageous, because of her ability to be a communist and yet have a sense of irony and keen observation, but after having read her story from decades ago about hopping in a car and driving across africa to revisit her home and the wild, i think she is likely physically courageous too, we just see the political and intellectual side -- and the story even includes a cute postscript about how she got the soviet press agency (tass) to pay for it all -- that took unflinching nerve!
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:55 PM
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29. Cindy Sheehan,John Edwards,John Conyers,Will Pitts
Greg Palast,John Kerry,Howard Dean.Maxine Walters and A lot of people on DU,too many to mention!!!!
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:56 PM
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30. Maynard James Keenan and Bill Hicks.
Edited on Thu Aug-24-06 11:56 PM by Beelzebud
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:58 PM
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31. Sorry,I forgot ,ALL the people who have fought in this war
The ones who died and the ones who were wounded mentally and physically.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 12:47 AM
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33. Groucho Marx and James Randi
Marx just for his wit and his thumbing his nose at society in general.

Randi because someone needs to be the guy shouting about scumbags like psychics, people who talk to the dead, faith healers and everyone else fooling people out of their money and self-reliance with bad magic tricks.

TlalocW
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 01:08 AM
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34. anyone who speaks truth to power. in the political stage since 1992 a
a couple of names come to mind, maxine waters and carrie meeks. then there were barbara jordan, shirley chilsohm and bella abzug. these days arundhati roy is there too. there is a poster in these DU pages who posts under the name of ARENDT. He too tells truth to power.

and ... murray bowen, M.D. (1913-1990)
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 01:09 AM
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35. Jane Goodall
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dusmcj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 02:01 AM
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37. Mush Mouse and Punkin' Puss. nt
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 06:12 AM
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38. President Jimmy Carter and certainly Bill Moyers
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 07:08 AM
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39. RIVERBEND, Robert Fisk, Raoul Mahajan, Arundhati Roy, Amy Goodman
Vandana Shiva, Howard Zinn, Kathy Kelly, Helen Thomas, Greg Palast, Dilip Hiro, Sibel Edmonds, Medea Benjamin. I'm sure I missed a few.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 07:15 AM
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40. Helen Thomas
She's persevered, always speaks her mind, never sold out, and relentlessly pursues the truth with grace and dignity
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 08:51 AM
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41. Robert Emmet, Jeremiah O'Donovan Rossa, Patrick Pearse



"Our foes are strong and wise and wary; but, strong and wise and wary as they are, they cannot undo the miracles of God Who ripens in the hearts of young men the seeds sown by the young men of a former generation. And the seeds sown by the young men of '65 and '67 are coming to their miraculous ripening today. Rulers and Defenders of the Realm had need to be wary if they would guard against such processes. Life springs from death; and from the graves of patriot men and women spring living nations. The Defenders of this Realm have worked well in secret and in the open. They think that they have pacified Ireland. They think that they have purchased half of us and intimidated the other half. They think that they have foreseen everything, think that they have provided against everything; but, the fools, the fools, the fools! — They have left us our Fenian dead, and while Ireland holds these graves, Ireland unfree shall never be at peace."

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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 08:51 AM
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42. Mothers
Edited on Fri Aug-25-06 08:52 AM by LWolf
who love, nurture, and protect their children.

Fathers who do the same, and who stay present throughout their offsprings' lives.

Teachers who teach kids to believe in themselves, to communicate, to be independent thinkers, questioners, learners.

Healers who spend their lives easing the suffering of others.

Writers, artists, musicians who strive to create beauty, to express the human condition creatively.

Philosophers and enlightened "Masters" who lead people to think, to reflect, to grow, to evolve.

All people who strive to walk lightly and leave the world a better place than when they entered it.

Heroes are those who do these things, not for public attention or approbation, but because it's necessary and right.

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FILAM23 Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 03:10 PM
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45. My parents
and no others
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