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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:23 PM
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PNAC intentional destruction of US military in order to privatize it?
I have been hearing so much about how this admin has been destroying the military and that the only recourse will be to bring back the draft, which would be political suicide...so what could be their motive?
Could they be that stupid?
Since their goal has been to privatize everything else, why not the military? If they bring it to its knees, there will be no recourse.....
BlackWater, Custer, etc. Private Soldiers to fight the wars they start, paid by our tax dollars, of course.
So much room for fraud and embezzlement. It will make the lost $ in Iraq look like kid's play.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:26 PM
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1. Yeah, I was sort-of thinking about this too- someone brought up the...
...fact that BlackWater (soon to be named something more gentle, I assure you) is like Bush's own private army and speculated, with elipses, just exactly what that small army might be put to.

PB
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:27 PM
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2. Some of us have been making that exact same point since 9-11.
DynCorp, Bechtel, Halliburton and BlackWater sure have alot of duties at inflated prices.

Militaries loyal to corporations who will be the onlyu ones who can afford their fees.

The fact that BushInc cheated so many military personnel out of their proper equipment and body armor should raise more than a few eyebrows.
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:28 PM
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3. Could this be why bush wanted his guest worker program??
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:29 PM
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4. They have already begun.
The security "contractors", mercenaries like Blackwater, Titan, CACI etc etc. It's the rebirth of the Pinkertons, on a global scale.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:32 PM
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5. If they hadn't screwed up the finances of this War so badly,
If they hadn't been contracting with thieves, they WOULD have, and MIGHT yet, succeed in rooting proxy wars in the civilian middle-class jobs base. I believe that was/is one of their intentions, to always have a ready supply of civilian people who make a living off of doing their wars for Oil or whatever. More of that privitizing government services that they are so sold on.

No Blood for Oil!
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:38 PM
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6. our only hope is global warming, superstorms and $ meltdown etc
hahaha....
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:46 PM
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7. Isn't it great that morons have a shelf life. The world can't wait
until these clowns are shut down.
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WHAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:56 PM
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8. NOT if there's honest elections...
won't happen.

otherwise...

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:58 PM
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9. And private armies have only loyalty to their employer
Not to the average American citizen.
There are more reasons than one to fear this scenario.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 09:18 PM
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10. And that is why I have felt for some time
That we need to return to a conscripted military.
Men that come from the average people of a country will not fire on there own, and take an oath to protect and defend the constitution. They have no particular loyalty to corporations.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:39 PM
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13. oh, some of them will fire on their own
if they can become convinced enough that the ones they are firing on aren't really "their own people"
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:14 PM
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11. Their real goal
Their real goal is much broader than just destroying the military. The real first-step goal is to destroy the USA. The USA, as the most powerful (militarily and economically) government in the world was the biggest obstacle to complete corporate control of the world. The US government had the power to control and rein in corporate power. After the USA is destroyed, they will go for the large European nations and Japan. The long-term goal is a world-wide feudal society, similar to the Middle Ages in Europe, where corporations and corporate executives take on the role of medieval lords and nobles, and the great mass of the population takes on the role of serfs. Oppressive, fundamentalist religion takes on the medieval role of oppressive religion that is closely intertwined with the feudal/corporate power structure.

Blackwater etc. and private armies would be basically like knights in medieval Europe, fighting for and enforcing the will of their masters/lords/corporations.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 11:31 PM
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12. This is what I see as their plan as well
The long-term goal is a world-wide feudal society, similar to the Middle Ages in Europe, where corporations and corporate executives take on the role of medieval lords and nobles, and the great mass of the population takes on the role of serfs. Oppressive, fundamentalist religion takes on the medieval role of oppressive religion that is closely intertwined with the feudal/corporate power structure.

It is a rather dark feeling to carry around, to feel as though this is the plan, but it is, I feel, what they plan for us.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 12:35 AM
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18. corporate feudal society
is a term I've used

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 07:13 PM
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20. Makes much too much sense to me...
:scared:
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eccles12 Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 12:02 AM
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14. Oh, you devil, you. There you go, thinking again. sigh..... nt
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 12:08 AM
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15. and will have no qualms about shooting Am. citizens...
if told to do so....so fraud is not the only biggie here...there are other concerns..
wb
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 12:09 AM
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16. yep, k/r
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 12:14 AM
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17. I said this sometime, oh back then, and I was
told silly female that I was, that I didn't know what I was talking about. Even GWB wouldn't have the nerve to destroy the military they said. He would be wise not to destroy all of it because they do keep him in power. However, once he has his paid mercenary praetorian guard in place, uhmm, it didn't work out too well for the Roman emperors did it?
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-25-06 02:43 AM
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19. Warlord Bush n/t
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