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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 06:43 PM
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GOP drops in religion poll
GOP dips in religion poll 2 hours, 50 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - The number of people who consider the Republican Party friendly to religion has dipped below half in the last year, with declines among white evangelicals and white Catholics.

But the GOP remains far more closely tied to religion than the Democratic Party.

The number of people who consider the GOP friendly to religion dropped from 55 percent to 47 percent — with a 14-point drop among white evangelical conservatives and an 11-point drop among white Catholics, according to the poll by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press.

Only a fourth, 26 percent, considered the Democratic Party friendly to religion — about the same as last year.

more at:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060824/ap_on_el_ge/religion_poll
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 06:51 PM
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1. Are our political parties supposed to be "friendly" to religion?
How about ambiguous towards it? As in religion is fine, all faiths are accepted in the US, but the government does not carry a particular view towards a particular faith because that could easily be misinterpreted as favoring one religion over another, or oppressing those who aren't of a certain faith, and that's not what America is supposed to be about?

I get so tired of the religious nonsense.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 06:54 PM
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3. No matter how good or bad "Religion" is, there are some things
that are bigger than our words for them.

For some of us this isn't about Politics or Religion.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:03 PM
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5. What's it about then?
Seriously, I'm not trying to be snarky.

And I'm sorry, I should have said "I'm so tired of the religion in politics nonsense". I respect ALL faiths and non-believers...my patience is simply worn to a frazzle over how faith has been abused by this cabal to carry out their diabolical agenda, and because of that I strongly disagree that "friendly to religion" is where the Dems should go, as stated above.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:19 PM
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6. I know what you mean about being worn to a frazzel!! with what's going
on with Religion 24/7.

In answer to your question, I don't know what it's about. I've only learned from experience a few things it isn't about. I'm trying NOT to mistake words of any kind for the reality that they ONLY point to. As Buckminster Fuller "pointed to" - I seem to be a Verb, i.e. not a noun. It seems to me a lot of Religious people spend an awful lot of time chasing their tails over words.

We've got to stop mistaking the words, any words, for reality.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:51 PM
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7. Yes. We all fall into that trap, not just religious folks.
The neo-pubs have made a fine art of using words and images to manipulate people. If only they governed half as well!

The religion in politics question is very emotional to many people and they know it...Notice they return again and again to these certain topics that solidify their base and raise the hackles on the rest of us.

BushCo LOVE jerking people around. Everyone, friend or foe, is a tool to be used by them. Maybe that gets at what it's really about.

You know, they said it once at the very beginning and it keeps going back to this: they MAKE the reality, we react to it.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 08:01 PM
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8. Yeah, let's make some reality of Our Own! n/t
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 06:51 PM
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2. Jesus IS still here and We ARE still killing him.
Edited on Thu Aug-24-06 06:57 PM by patrice
That's a **Fact**.

Mathew 25:40 Whatsoever you do to the least of these, that you do unto Me.

Republicans are realizing that Innocent powerless people in their homes ARE Jesus just as surely as any Fetus is. We ARE all One.

War is Social Abortion.
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 06:56 PM
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4. What the hell does friendly to religion mean? Get religion the hell out
of politics. I don't give a shit about being friendly to religion. Religion is not friendly to the non religious. I believe you should keep your religion to yourself and out of other peoples lives. A political party doesn't need to be friendly to religion.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 08:23 PM
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9. Of course! Democrats ARE the party that is most friendly to religion.
Democrats aren't the party friendliest to Theocracy, but that's another matter.

The concept of Separation of Church and State came about as a desire to protect the rights of religious people to practice -or not practice- religion as they saw fit. Protecting the secular nature of civic government IS a religion-friendly value. Keeping mandatory prayer out of public schools protects the folks whose particular strain of religion the prayers wouldn't belong to just as much as it protects the unbelievers.

Meanwhile, the Republican Party has been starting wars based on bald-faced lies, screwing the poor, and ripping off the American Taxpayer to the tune of billions in no-bid contracts and missing money giveaways. Most Americans are pro-choice, and most Catholics approve of birth control- and the GOP wants to criminalize not just abortion, but the pill, too. Whose fucking religious values are those?

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