Do you believe Bush's presidency will somehow be extended...

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

...indefinitely beyond 2008?

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BushCo tears another paragraph or two out of the Constitution almost every day---does this really seem so far fetched?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20060731/cm_thenation/20060814gillers_1

[onethatcares]

1. remember what tommy franks had to say

those words are still out there

[Tellurian]

11. What did he say?

I forgot..

[charlie]

13. One more terrorist incident

and it's martial law in the ol' US of A.

[Tellurian]

32. Thanks, Charlie!

So, we're on the right track.

Bush plans on remaining in power indefinitely!

Does the Dem Party have a remedy for this eventuality?

[Golden Raisin]

42. Please --- the Democratic

Party can't even figure out what to do with and how to handle Joe Lieberman. We'll all be in Halliburton domestic internment camps before they figure out what to do about the imposition of martial law.

[Warpy]

2. I shudder to think

because he was willing to overthrow a democracy to grab the office. He went through the motions of a fixed election in 2004.

I am terrified that an organization willing to do that will not relinquish power according to the rule of law.

[Tellurian]

38. When has the GOP EVER respected the Rule of Law?

They have vowed to WIN and remain in control at any cost!

Consequently, they give themselves a mandate and follow through on it.

[LSparkle]

3. "Now wait a minute ... " That Rocky ringer let the cat out of the bag

After all, he wasn't *really* elected the first time ...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

[stop the bleeding]

4. After the last 6 years nothing surprises me anymore

so I voted yes

[Avalux]

5. Doesn't seem far-fetched; they're testing the waters right now.

Guy from New Orleans wants Bush for another term; WH staffers joke about it. You better believe Rove is circulating the idea to get a handle on public sentiment. I'll bet anyone 10 bucks it's a poll question soon.

[Horse with no Name]

35. they floated the balloon up with Guiliani after 911

and it didn't fly...but it did put the idea out to the country that it was ALWAYS a possibility.

[Benhurst]

6. As they say, you can't get too much of a good thing.

:rofl:

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

7. I understand Chimpy used to say that about cocaine.

[longship]

8. Not extended... Cut short.

I predict a tsunami this November.

If that happens, there's no way that he avoids impeachment and removal from office.

The country's attitude about ChimpCo is getting damned ugly. It very much looks like the Repugs are not going to take a single Congressional seat from the Dems this November. Even the embattled Rep. Melissa Bean looks to be winning her seat. If things don't change in ChimpCo's favor--it very much looks like it's going to actually become worse for them--the Democratic Party will be in the majority in both sides of the Capital.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

9. Remove Diebold from the equation and I'd be in total agreement.

[helderheid]

17. ditto

[longship]

28. Tsunami, not surfing wave.

There is not a single Democrat in serious jeopardy, other than Boltin' Joe.
There are no previously Dem seats in serious jeopardy.

Every single take-over race is a seat currently held by Repugs.

And ChimpCo's public opinion is not improving to the point where this situation is going to change. The pundits are saying what they are saying, but they are thinking "tsunami".

There comes a point when things have fallen apart for the Repugs to a point where not even Diebold is going to help them. First, anything beyond a single percentage point difference is going to be detected. Second, the mainstream Dems have awoken to the scam and are not going to let it happen.

Lamont really was a gun-shot across the bow to mainstreamers. They really have been shaken up by this. The pundits are scurrying around screeching their heads off. Make no mistake. Lamont's primary win is huge. If Lieberman wins, they may try to spin it, but everybody will know that it was because of Repug support.

[Tellurian]

10. As we type, they are setting the stage to declare Martial Law

The news is reporting the growing violence in the country.

The House tried to pass a Resolution Declaring Martial Law just last week. It was denied!

But the Resolution didn't have the votes just yet to slam it through.

The FEMA Rules state unequivocally, when Martial Law is in effect,

"ALL ELECTIONS ARE SUSPENDED INDEFINITELY!"

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

12. This would seem to suggest another 9-11...

...will be served up soon.

[Tellurian]

36. Here is an article of affirmation of the Martial Law issues,,

This isn't the article I read on the DU that seems to have magically disappeared.

But is close enough. It was written at the beginning of this week. The article I read was written before the 19th of Aug. 06.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=ROL20060820&articleId=3010

[The Jacobin]

46. You're citing a blog?

And one that rants about concentration camps?

Go take a walk. Get some fresh air. You need to get out more.

[Tellurian]

49. Who's your daddy?

Blog? Having a problem assimilating the Truth?

[FormerDem06]

15. Could you please cite a source for this statement......

The House tried to pass a Resolution Declaring Martial Law just last week. It was denied!


I missed it somewhere.

[LSparkle]

16. (Sputtering) wh-wh-wh-wh-WHAT? The House tried to do WHAT?

Pass a resolution declaring martial law?

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: HAVEN'T WE HEARD ABOUT THIS???

[RaleighNCDUer]

14. I have to say "not sure".

As much as i doubt his ability to pull it off, I have been surprised by the temerity of this administration before.

Bush himself? ???

Bush regime? Definitely. They have to stay in power to keep out of prison.

[catmandu57]

21. That's what I'm thinking

They have to do something, otherwise all the poison buried in the mud bubbles to the surface. Fasten your seatbelt, we've got some pretty big bumps coming up.

[deaniac21]

18. This poll should be done again on September 7 to see if the

results change.

[MisterP]

19. they'll just make it dynastic:

he can adopt McCain, Giuliani, or even Hillary into the Family, and we can choose the ones they've chosen for us!
And we will be demanded to be "grateful" to them, of course.

[Sherman A1]

20. I think it will depend on their ability

to steal the 2008 elections. If they can continue on with another Republican (one of course to their choosing) then no, if it goes the other way, then me thinks we might be in trouble..........

[OldSiouxWarrior]

22. Extremely doubtful. NT

[SmokingJacket]

23. Bush is replaceable, though.

No need to jump through hoops to keep him -- just find another rich dumdum who'll do the bidding of the Republican party.

[davekriss]

24. Bush will go away in 2008

But I fully expect the cabal that fronted Bushboi to steal another 4 years for their candidate of choice, this despite what the polls will be telling us. A Regime doesn't steal two presidential elections, spend trillions of dollars we don't have on favored industries within their base, and go to war to secure future oil flows just to walk away because a piece of paper says pResidents are limited to two terms. Bushboi was just figurehead, the public relations front, of a much more entrenched and insidious cabal.

[SutaUvaca]

25. Sure it could happen

A couple of possibilitites come to mind:
Another LIHOP or MIHOP attack on US soil.
Or reasonable gamble that the world economy will crash at the end of a short fast domino chain after nuking Iran.
The "situation demands that for your own safety I must continue in charge." Martial law or otherwise.
I do believe it's possible.
Not just for the power. These people know now that they have the extreme penalty to pay if they lose power and are
tried and brought to justice. The potential of the death penalty for war crimes would be a powerful motivator to
maintain absolute power.

[KingFlorez]

26. I should hope not

I think he'd like that to happen, but I they'll be able to find a way

[DemInDistress]

27. without a doubt YES... this bunch of murderers will not

go away quietly if at all. The little man in my stomach tells me there wont be a November election. I feel a major attack here, UK or Israel will cause this crime family in DC to suspend the election until the terror threat is over and only then can a new election go forward, maybe in 2040.

They've too much to lose allowing this election to go forward like maybe congressional investigations into the
lies surrounding the war in Iraq and worst still..911

[KansDem]

29. No way, no how...!!!

And I've got a pitchfork in my garage in case they try it! :grr:

[Zavulon]

30. I can't see how after he loses at least one House in November, unless

what you're thinking is a lot more Oliver Stonish than I'm thinking myself.

[stillcool]

31. I would never have thought ....

it possible to be where we are right now. I don't dare contemplate the future.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

33. I have enough real issues to worry about

I have no need to manufacture ones. I'm thrilled to announce that I don't believe there's anyway in hell we're stuck with more than the vile legacy of bush after Jan 2009.

[TahitiNut]

34. He's nothing but a fucking front-man - a puppet! (Sheesh!)

He's expendible ... and I expect he'll be "martyred" in 2008, as I've said before. The fascist right sadly has more than enough candidates for puppet - easily purchased and manipulated. George Allen is but one example - another total fucking moron who, without the wealth backing him, wouldn't even be able to run a franchise fast-food restaurant successfully.

[WI_DEM]

37. Bush will never pull this off. 1) the military hates him 2) CIA hates him

3) The American people hate him. 4) Democrats will have more representation in congress by '08 and won't allow this 5) many in his own party wouldn't allow it (including such '08 contenders as McCain) 6) Even the media wouldn't allow this. 7) People would be all over the streets if something this remote even happened.

Anybody who really thinks Bush is going to be president beyond Jan. 20, 2009 I'm ready to take your bets.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

40. I understand your reasoning and I don't take...

...issue with your seven statements, and further, I think they do support your contention that they could not pull this off, however, I wonder if you've given consideration to the carefully orchestrated series of events that would likely precede canceled elections---namely: 1)Another 9-11 on U.S. soil. 2) FBI shills tie it directly to Iran. 3) Corporate Media goes to work painting Iran as a very serious threat (they're already doing this). 4) Bush declares war on Iran and a National state of emergency to include Martial Law. 5) Draft re-instituted. 6) Economy tanks, crime spirals out of control, large numbers of demonstrators are swept up and held in detention accused of aiding and abetting Iranian terrorists, the masses become panicked and rather than revolt, do what they're told.

If someone had asked me five years ago if presidential elections could be rigged/stolen in the U.S. I would have said, NO WAY!

If someone had asked me five years ago whether the U.S. would apprehend/detain people in global conflict and hold them, not for months, but years, without charge or access to any kind of due process, and further, even subject some of them to physical torture, I would have said, NO WAY!

We know these things have happened recently and also that it was a series of events that lead to an environment conducive for them to take place.

The complexion of things can change very dramatically in a heartbeat---if we've learned nothing else from the last 5 years we certainly should have learned this.

It is said that history repeats itself...

http://www.crisispapers.org/Editorials/germany-1933.htm

[Nikki Stone 1]

41. Mr. Jefferson, I believe you have a point

I hope to god you are wrong, but you do have a point.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

47. I don't know any more than anyone else...

...if the nightmare scenario I describe will play out that way. I do feel sure these fascist criminals aren't going to go quietly.

[Blue_In_AK]

39. It's a nightmare scenario

that I've thought about, but I don't think he could get away with it.

[izzybeans]

43. I say no and would be happy to first eat a quick bit of crow and second

join all of you in the streets should that come to pass. I just don't see it as possible. I don't think even the republican loyalists could deal with that sort of tyranny. I know the first person I'm grabbing for a fight like that would be my bro-in-law the republican loyalist. His head would explode and we would be fighting side-by-side.

[Liberal_Dog]

44. The Supreme Court Will Ultimately Get...

The NSA warrantless spying case and they will rule that Bu$h can do whatever he wants.

So, yes, it is a distinct possibility.

[RagAss]

45. Martial Law..???....hmmmmmm, ....Soldiers in the streets......so....

How's that working out in Iraq?....We know what pissed off Iraqis look like....don't ever underestimate pissed off Americans....just sayin

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[Matariki]

50. I don't think he *likes* being president enough for that

Now his brother Jeb stealing the next election, does that count as the same thing?

[Vidar]

51. The figurehead will probably change, leaving the shadow government intact.