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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:04 PM
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The War on Christmas is rejoined. AFA vs. Sam's Club
Latest email from the American Family ASSociation:

Sam's Club replaces 'Christmas' with 'Holidays'

First advertising of the season does not mention the Reason for the Season

Dear tanyev,

Even though it is August, the Christmas advertising season has already begun and Sam's Club has come down on the side of "Holidays" instead of "Christmas."

In the August/September issue of their in-house magazine Source, Sam's Club has one page dedicated to Christmas. But Sam's Club doesn't refer to Christmas as being Christmas. Sam's Club promotes it as "Holidays."

On page 69 of Source, the promotional plug says: "Coming soon. Plan ahead for the holidays." On the page decorated in Christmas fashion are three products. Sam's Club wants you to buy "Holiday Cards," "Holiday Ribbon," and "Holiday Gift Bags."

On the "Christmas" page, the word Christmas isn't used! View the page ad.

On June 26, AFA wrote Wal-Mart (which owns Sam's Club) asking that they not ban "Christmas" in advertising and promotions. Included in that letter was a CD with the names of 201,595 individuals who signed the petition asking for no ban. Wal-Mart, ignoring the letter, did not even bother to respond.


Link to send an email to Sam's:
https://secure.afa.net/afa/activism/samsclub.asp

You can change the text. I took the rare opportunity to send Sam's Club a supportive email:

Dear President McMillon,

If you want to use Holidays instead of Christmas, do it. Don't let these fundie freaks push you around.






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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:06 PM
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1. Costco kicks ass over Sam's and they are a Blue store.. n/t
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:09 PM
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6. Oh, yeah. I cut up my Sam's card as soon as I found that out.
But President McMillon doesn't know that.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 08:26 AM
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29. Yep, Costco. Living proof corporate responsibility pays well.
With a year after Sam Walton died I had to drop kick Walmart and Sam's both. Thankfully Costco built a new store 2 miles from my house.
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Kiouni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:06 PM
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2. i like the letter
I'm sure McMillon will appreciate your candor
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:06 PM
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3. Too goddamned early for wars on Christmas
Too busy with wars in the ME
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:07 PM
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4. Thank Goodness
The War on Christmas had like North Korea, slipped from the headlines - Thanks for bringing this vital issue back to it's rightful place in the forefront!

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:08 PM
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5. Sams Club is probably catering to their Chinese overlords
They don't want to lose the business.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:12 PM
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7. That EVIL Wal-Mart!!! Wait a minute!
It is EVIL!

My brain hurts ...
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april Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:13 PM
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8. fool me once shame on you gw said this ..but got it wrong
I will get it right ...NEVER..SAMS .. go wish KING G merry f..g christmas

I shop at COSTCO..or any where that they treat there employs fairly
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:14 PM
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9. Isn't Sam's Club part of Wal-Mart's empire?
I wouldn't be caught dead in one of their stores to begin with ... so who the fuck cares what they call the winter holidays?

:crazy:
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april Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:16 PM
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11. yes ..it is Walmart& Walgreens oh happy holidays !!
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 08:28 AM
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30. Oh cuss cuss cuss cuss cuss.
WAL greens -- I shoulda caught that one. Dang. I like Walgreens too and now I'm going to have to drop kick um.

Dangit.

No indy drug store around here and Eckerd and CVS in my neighborhood are AWFUL.

Dangit.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 08:43 AM
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32. No, I don't think they're related at all.
I think CVS has gotten more support here for having a more progressive stance on filling birth control and morning after prescriptions, but I get a creepy feeling every time I step into a CVS. I still go to Walgreen's.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:16 PM
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12. Oh, it's amusing to see right wing internecine fighting.
I like to help stir the pot whenever I can.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:16 PM
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10. Not this drivel again? Jeez.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:19 PM
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13. Dear Sams' Club: It must suck to be eaten by your own
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:24 PM
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14. Fuck christmas ...it ain't in the bible ...get over it ya fools
Where the hell does the bible say we are to celebrate christmas every year? Bunch of dumb asses worship some bull shit that ain't even in the bible and even then wtf are the wise men doing at the nativity scene? Hey dumb asses ...you might actually try reading the bible for a fucking change!
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:30 PM
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15. Fuck Christmas? That's what my parents did!
Edited on Wed Aug-23-06 09:30 PM by rurallib
My birthday is in one month.
If they'd had a 'war on' Christmas, I'd never even made it to snowflake.
Well let's hope AFA ices Sam's and runs them outta business!
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:32 PM
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16. awww poor baby
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april Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:33 PM
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17. All xmas is a Big $$$
what ever happened to just enjoying the holidays w/ family yes giving gift but more from the the heart ?? NOW it is how much are you going to put yourselves in debt....dont just give from your heart and tell the retailers to go f themselves and thank to GW they support him and all that we owe other countrys like China ect and our children the debt is for many generations because of this ass
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:37 PM
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18. Clue ...how about you give your children a gift because you love them ...
and not because of some bogus fake christian holy etc day.

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april Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:43 PM
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19. that sums it up /my feelings
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:25 AM
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25. Tread lightly. Tread very lightly. I suspect many a DU'er
chooses to believe in Christmas - and it does not become you to be antagonistic.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 10:12 PM
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20. So this is going year-round now?
:puke: :wtf: :puke:
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:14 AM
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24. It's like the War on Terror! It never ends!
If we withdraw the troops from Iraq, the terrorists will follow us home and try to obliterate Christmas forever! AAAAGGGHHHH!!!!!
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 11:13 PM
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21. This is what I sent
Dear President McMillon,

The fundie nuts are at it again! Don't change your ads to please those idiots. Happy Holidays!




I doubt if Walmart will get it,though. I imagine the fundie freaks will proof read all letters before they are sent.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 12:36 AM
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22. i was wondering when this would start
just commented to dh the other day that they would start accusing stores of waging a 'war on christmas' .

i must be psychic! ( or just know how rw minds work )
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 12:48 AM
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23. A good "issue" to ignore, imho.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:52 AM
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26. Shouldn't the AFA be starting a war on Halloween first?
Or is that just Pat Robertson and Jack Chick who have the big issue with celebrating Halloween?
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 08:22 AM
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27. They are the aggressors in the War Against Halloween.
That's easy to do. It's a lot harder working up the burning martyr complex and persuade people that they are victims in the War On Christmas.
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Khayembii Communique Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 08:26 AM
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28. Finally, Wal-Mart does something right!
"On June 26, AFA wrote Wal-Mart (which owns Sam's Club) asking that they not ban "Christmas" in advertising and promotions. Included in that letter was a CD with the names of 201,595 individuals who signed the petition asking for no ban. Wal-Mart, ignoring the letter, did not even bother to respond. "
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 08:36 AM
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31. It isn't a war on Christmas, it is a war on inclusion and civility
Edited on Thu Aug-24-06 08:37 AM by Toots
Only christians are making a fuss. Only christians are creating a "war". All these stores are doing is being inclusive of all Americans. Jews and Muslims and Buddists etc. Instead of excluding a good part of America by being Christian only they are inclusive and Christians do not like that at all. They are not for Unifying america at all. They want to divide and conquer. They hate a United States.. Can't stand it at all and that is why they vote Republican. Republicans are for divide and conquer as well..
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