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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 05:47 PM
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US Ambassador to Iraq Casts Baghdad as Occupation's Last Stand
Edited on Wed Aug-23-06 06:18 PM by bigtree
August 23, 2006

"The Battle of Baghdad will determine the future of Iraq" - Zalmay Khalilzad


In an absent-minded replay of Bush's taunting "Bring them on", Khalilzad stood behind our soldiers in his editorial today and invited the swelling resistance in Iraq to converge on Baghdad as the US forces sit hunkered down in their Green Zone of defense of the Maliki government.

"The Battle of Baghdad will determine the future of Iraq," he wrote in his opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal, "which will itself go a long way to determining the future of the world's most vital region." He pleaded with his readers to "give the Iraqis the time and material support necessary to see this plan through, and to win the Battle of Baghdad."

Yet, the mission to reclaim Baghdad has been going on for months - initiated right after Bush's surprise visit to the Green Zone - without any noticeable reduction in violence outside of the cordons of tanks and armored vehicles that the U.S. forces erect around the towns. Neither have the 'foot patrols' that the Pentagon ordered our soldiers to perform in Iraq as a 'goodwill 'gesture' managed to reduce the animosity the Iraqis feel for our invading/occupying forces. Instead, the attacks on our soldiers in Iraq have doubled in the past month, perhaps in response to the U.S. role in Lebanon where U.S.-backed Israeli forces attacked the Shiite group Hizbollah.

In June, the military launched what they thought would be a strengthening of the new center of Iraq's fledgling government by combining Iraqi forces with U.S. troops. In early May, 2006, the Pentagon had sent their first signal since the after the elections that they wanted to reduce the forces. At least it was interpreted that way. Over 3,500 U.S. active duty soldiers who were set to deploy to Iraq were delayed indefinitely. That set off speculation that a drawdown was imminent.

That drawdown never materialized. Instead, later that month, the U.S. force in Iraq was increased by 2,000 troops from Kuwait to bolster the force of about 40,000 combined Iraq/U.S. troops deployed to Baghdad. So, the DoD accounting of 133,000 troops stationed in Iraq was escalated just to retake Baghdad.

Now, well into August, Operation Forward has no more secured Baghdad than the previous mission, dubbed 'Operation Lightning' did in 2005 where Iraqi militias and U.S. troops waged a campaign of repression against the resisting Sunni populations. The present mission is more of the same, with U.S. forces knocking down doors, kidnapping whoever they suspect and holding them indefinitely in one their prisons without charges, basically terrorizing the residents into submission as they paint a target on the military occupied towns.

Bush's equation for troops in Iraq goes like this: More violence = need for more troops. With that prescription, we should leave Iraq by . . . never. Iraq's forces will always be challenged by militarized resistance, even more so, aligned with our aggravating forces. Bush will never get enough soldiers to Baghdad which would effect the type of crushing oppression needed to cow the millions who inhabit the Iraqi city and townships. The best he and Khalilzad can hope for as he sacrifices our soldiers is an artificial prop of an unpopular junta. So why does he persist?

The answer came in his news conference Tuesday, where he scolded the press for suggesting his Iraq mission was a failure, and for challenging him to come up with a reason why our troops are still there, and declared his intention to keep troops deployed there "so long as he's the President"

"This is a campaign!" he blurted out, "It would be wrong, in my judgment, for us to leave before the mission is complete in Iraq." The White House mission is to avoid a predicted crushing defeat of the Occupation Party in the November midterm elections. Bush and his chickenhawk-infested republican majority have meshed the sacrifices of our soldiers into their 'smear and fear' campaigns to make themselves look like they're the ones putting their lives on the line, and want to make the Democrats look like the ones preventing them from 'winning' in Iraq. It's a cynical mission, a shameful one.

Bush's mission is clearly not in the best interest of the Iraqis, nor is it in the best interest of America and our soldiers who we expect to defend our nation against legitimate attack. This month it was suggested by a official close to the WH that Bush was looking at "alternatives to democracy in Iraq". All this time he's been telling the American people that our soldiers are fighting and dying in defense of democracy in Iraq and toward the ultimate democratization of their 'New Middle East'.

Now it looks like the future of Bush's weak and fraudulent vision of military-imposed hegemony on the region, using Iraq as the base, is hopelessly obscured by the U.S. sponsored repression of Iraqis by the Maliki regime, which rivals our sponsorship of Saddam's barbarous reign in its scope and depth of brutality against innocent Iraqis.

Khalilzad seems to get it when he writes that, "One of the most tragic elements of the increasing violence in Baghdad is that it has robbed the Iraqi people of the sense of normalcy they desperately seek after living under crushing tyranny for more than three decades."

What Khalilzad and Bush fail to understand and acknowledge, though, is that our military occupation has greatly heightened the violence instead of reduced it. It's ludicrous to expect that more checkpoints, more search and destroy missions, and more intimidation of our forces will bring about any different result, no matter how long our soldiers keep it up.

General George Custer wrote, in 1874: "If I were an Indian, I often think that I would greatly prefer to cast my lot among those of my people who adhered to the free open plains, rather than submit to the confined limits of a reservation, there to be the recipient of the blessed benefits of civilization, with its vices thrown in without stint or measure."

He mused about Indian's 'freedom' in one instance, and committed himself to their slaughter and imprisonment in the next, much like Bush and the Iraqis. When the Indians were no longer intimidated by Custer's muckraking soldiers, they lay in wait and fought him and his soldiers to their bloody end. Their last stand.

It's unfortunate for our nation, our soldiers, and for the Iraqis, that Bush and Khalilzad aren't on the field like Custer was. They share his arrogant belief in their own righteousness as they attack and kill the 'insurgent' Iraqis like Custer slaughtered his 'savages'. The Bush regime's Battle of Baghdad may well be their own 'last stand'. Let's hope it's not ours as well.

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 05:52 PM
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1. Allowing another TET offensive to take place
<snip>
On the night of 31st January 1968, 70,000 North Vietnamese soldiers launched the Tet offensive - it proved to be one of the greatest campaigns in military history.

by Steve Forrest

Vietcong guerrilla fighters violated the temporary truce they had pledged to observe around the lunar new year celebrations, and surged into more than one hundred towns and cities, including Saigon.

Shifting the war for the first time from its rural base into the new arena of South Vietnam's supposedly impregnable urban areas, it was a campaign of 'enormous breadth, speed and scope.' It shook US imperialism to its roots and had a dramatic and lasting effect on US public opinion.

It was a campaign that had been in preparation since a study carried out by General Giap in September 1967 had concluded that the war had reached a 'stalemate' situation and that something needed to be done. Out of this report arose the plans for the Tet offensive. Vietcong leaders had carried out a vigorous propaganda campaign in order to prepare their forces. Ho Chi Minh urged the troops on to 'ever greater feats of battle' in 1968.

Giap had set the campaign's minimum and maximum objectives. As a mimimum the Tet outbreak would force the halting of the ariel bpombardment of North Vietnam and force the Americans into negotiations. As a maximum the offensive could drive the Americans out of Vietnam all together opening up the path to liberation and unification.
<more>

http://www.marxist.com/1968/vietnam.html
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 07:03 PM
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9. another battle
to end all battles
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PointAndLaugh Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 05:54 PM
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2. "The Battle of Baghdad" ?
How do they intend to win this battle? Kill all Iraqis in the city? I mean, they can't keep the entire city of Baghdad under virtual lockdown for any protracted period of time, like they have been doing for the past few days.

"Bush's mission is clearly not in the best interest of the Iraqis" Obviously.
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FlavaKreemSnak Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 06:30 PM
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8. They will have to keep whole country under clampdown
Edited on Wed Aug-23-06 06:34 PM by FlavaKreemSnak
They will have to kill a lot of them but the ones they want to keep, like the ones that will agree to kill some of the other ones, they will have to keep even them under clampdown because no matter how many of them they kill or put in the prisons or no matter how many cities they do like they did Fallujah the people there still have anti-American sentiments and are not in favor of the occupation. I don't think they have enough troops even to keep Baghdad under clampdown for a long term time. And it is a big country so they will need even more troops to clampdown all of it.

The edit was to fix the headline that had extra words in it.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 04:26 PM
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22. All of Baghdad has witnessed destruction
Despite carnage, cleaning up after bombings in Iraq has taken on sense of 'normalcy'

Thursday August 24, 2006
By RAWYA RAGEH
Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) They're scenes all too familiar in Iraq: shattered buildings, mangled cars, pools of blood. The carnage takes its toll on the landscape and those responsible for cleaning up the mess.

There aren't any trained hazmat specialists here. It's the same minimum wage guys who sweep trash off the streets for a daily wage of less than $5.

``They've gotten used to this,'' Amir Ali, spokesman for Baghdad's municipal government, said of the cleanup crews. ``It's daily routine now to deal with these horrific scenes. All of Baghdad has witnessed destruction.''

http://cbs2chicago.com/worldwire/Iraq-CleaningUp_a_i_-----/resources_news_html
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 02:32 PM
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20. Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves.
Edited on Thu Aug-24-06 02:32 PM by bigtree
post from Blah3: http://www.blah3.com/article.php?story=20060824141959777

Thursday, August 24 2006 @ 02:19 EDT
Contributed by: Stranger

BushWarI was going to title this post 'Fucking For Virginity.' Seems both headlines apply"


US Ambassador to Iraq Zalmay Khalilzad warned that the US command is discussing the unsuccessful security plan in capital Baghdad to be replaced with extremely strict measures for curbing the terrorist attacks and violence in Baghdad and around the country, online edition of Iraqi newspaper Az Zaman informs.

According to the diplomat the US army in Iraq has already started preparing to implement the new strategy.

http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?id=n94647



Oh, wait - I just thought of another possible title, this one with Viet Nam-era vintage:

We had to destroy the village in order to save it.

Oy.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 05:17 PM
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23. and get more our soldiers killed trying
Three US soldiers killed in Iraq

8/24/2006

BAGHDAD - Insurgents killed three US soldiers across Iraq in a roadside bombing and gunfights over the last 24 hours, the US military said Thursday.

The military said insurgents attacked a soldier in Baghdad with small arms at around 12:15 pm (0815 GMT) Thursday. He later died from his wounds.

Another soldier was killed when his vehicle was hit by a roadside bomb south of Baghdad earlier Thursday, while a third soldier died Wednesday in a gunfight with "terrorists," the military said.

Two "terrorists" were also killed in the battle that took place as the soldier's unit was conducting operations south of Baghdad against "foreign terrorists," the military added.

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=139002
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 05:58 PM
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3. they cannot build walls high enough
or catapult propaganda far enough
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:47 PM
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26.  CBS, NBC Clean Up Bush's 'Happy' Talk
8/24/06

During his August 21 press conference, George W. Bush responded to a question about the Iraq War by saying that "sometimes I'm happy" about the conflict. But many readers and TV viewers never heard the remark, since journalists edited the statement to save Bush any possible embarrassment.

Bush's unedited comment was as follows:

Q: But are you frustrated, sir?

BUSH: Frustrated? Sometimes I'm frustrated. Rarely surprised. Sometimes I'm happy. This is -- but war is not a time of joy. These aren't joyous times. These are challenging times, and they're difficult times, and they're straining the psyche of our country. I understand that.

Viewers of CBS Evening News (8/21/06) saw a carefully edited version of that response—one better suited to presenting Bush as serious and concerned with the effects of the war. Reporter Bill Plante previewed the answer by saying that Bush "conceded that daily reports of death and destruction take a toll, both on the nation and on him." The edited quote that followed:

Frustrated? Sometimes I'm frustrated, rarely surprised. These aren't joyous times. These are challenging times, and they're difficult times. And they're straining the psyche of our country. I understand that.

more: http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2948
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 09:55 PM
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27. I actually watched the conference live
and got sick to my tummy. Straining the psyche of our country? Ya think?

how the press sit through this crap is beyond me.
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 05:59 PM
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4. Dien Bien Fu again, Waterloo again. Iran will sucker us into war.
Then they will unite with the insurgents in Iraq and kick our ass in Baghdad. You heard it here first.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 01:49 PM
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19. that's why they've hesitated so far
attacking them without withdrawing would be suicide for the troops left in Iraq.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 06:01 PM
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5. Highly recommended. nt
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 06:04 PM
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6. This is how we will leave the Green Zone when this war is finished:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 06:47 PM
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25. "We need to have a sense of when our troops can withdraw."
Shays Says U.S. Should Consider Time Frame For Troop Withdrawals

http://www.greenwichtime.com/news/local/state/hc-24182647.apds.m0873.bc-ct-shaysaug24,0,4140188.story?coll=hc-headlines-local-wire

Associated Press

Published August 24 2006, 7:26 PM EDT

WASHINGTON -- Rep. Christopher Shays, who is locked in a tough re-election fight against an anti-war challenger, says the U.S. should consider setting a timeline for troop withdrawals from Iraq.

"Our troops cannot be there indefinitely," Shays, R-Conn., said today from London during a telephone conference call with reporters after visiting Iraq for the 14th time since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion. "We need to have a sense of when our troops can withdraw."


Shays, who has previously opposed timetables for drawing down troops, said he hopes to offer a specific time frame after he holds congressional hearings on Iraq next month.
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 06:16 PM
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7. Mr. Khalilzad speaks Farsi...I take it he's better CIA trained linguist
than our four star generals in Iraq trained in Alabama, or Mississippi....no offense against folks from AL or MS.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:46 PM
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10. kick
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 09:56 PM
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11. Maybe the majoriity of Iraqis do not want Iraq to
become a colony of the US/UK? The UK controlled Iraq for almost 30 years. Maybe Iraqis don't want a repeat?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 10:25 PM
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12. makes sense
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 07:55 AM
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13. kick
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 08:02 AM
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14. I'm sure der Fuhrer just said we'd turned another corner.
Is this the one that leads into a blind alley?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 03:40 PM
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21. US claims 'great progress' in Iraq as violence kills 14

Compiled by Daily Star staff
Friday, August 25, 2006

The top US general in the Middle East on Thursday praised a major security clampdown in Baghdad, saying it has brought "great progress" on a day when violence claimed the lives of at least 14 people.

"I think there has been great progress on the security front in Baghdad recently. We are very optimistic that the situation will stabilize," General John Abizaid said after talks with President Jalal Talabani.

Abizaid, who met General John Casey, the top US commander in Iraq, said comments he made earlier this month before the US Senate in which he said the sectarian violence in Iraq was the worst he had seen had been misrepresented.

"I never said that Iraq was one foot from civil war. It is amazing how you say things sometimes and they get reported differently. I believe there is danger of civil war in Iraq, but only a danger. I think Iraq is far from it."

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=2&article_id=74997
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 05:40 PM
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24. I'm sorry, I can't even insult these people enough anymore
They're just too depraved, playing these word games while innocent people die in the mess they created and are overseeing like minor gods.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 08:29 AM
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15. Bush is shifting his tone on the Iraq war
By Peter Baker
Washington Post

WASHINGTON - Of all the words that President Bush used at his news conference this week to defend his policies in Iraq, the one that did not pass his lips was "progress."

For three years, the president tried to reassure Americans that more progress was being made in Iraq than they realized. But with Iraq either in civil war or on the brink of it, Bush dropped the unseen-progress argument in favor of the contention that things could be even worse.

The shifting rhetoric reflected a broader pessimism that has reached into even some of the most optimistic corners of the administration, a sense that the Iraq venture has taken a dark turn and will not be resolved anytime soon. Bush advisers once believed that if they met certain benchmarks, such as building a constitutional democracy and training a new Iraqi army, the war would be won. And now, they feel they have more or less met those goals, yet the war rages on.

But with crucial midterm congressional elections just 2-1/2 months away, Bush and his team are trying to turn the public debate away from whether the Iraq invasion has worked out to what would happen if U.S. troops were withdrawn, as some Democrats advocate. Using terms like "havoc," Bush at Monday's news conference made no effort to suggest the situation in Iraq is improving. Instead, he argued, "if you think it's bad now, imagine what Iraq would look like if the United States leaves before this government can defend itself."

full article: http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060824/NEWS01/608240330

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 09:16 AM
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16. U.S. Strategy and Tactics Fail to Mesh in Iraq

Morning Edition, August 24, 2006 · Tom Ricks, a reporter for the Washington Post and author of the book Fiasco, says he's seen a persistent disconnect between U.S. strategy and U.S. tactics in Iraq. Ricks tells Steve Inskeep that the current U.S. strategy is being undermined by questionable tactics.

Listen to this story... http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5701631


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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 09:38 AM
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17. final version and link
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 10:32 AM
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18. one more.
Edited on Thu Aug-24-06 10:35 AM by bigtree

Attacks rock 3 Baghdad neighborhoods

Aug. 24 - At least 13 people wounded in three separate attacks across Baghdad.

A car bomb exploded near a police vehicle in eastern Baghdad on Thursday (August 24), wounding five policemen, police sources said. Police sources said that the blast targeted a convoy of Colonel Hassan Abdul Wahed, Police Chief of Rusafa. Wahed survived the attack unscathed but five of his bodyguards were wounded.

Meanwhile, a car bomb exploded next to a police patrol in Baghdad's northern neighbourhood of Adhamiya, wounding four policemen, police source said.

In central Baghdad, a bomb hidden in a can exploded inside a shop, wounding four civilians, interior ministry sources said. The blast damaged a number of shops and smashed windows of at least one car.

Meanwhile in Baquba, a car bomb wounded four policemen and a civilian when police were lured to the vehicle by a false tip off claiming a dead body was in the car in the town, police said. Baquba, 65 km (40 miles) north of Baghdad, is a mixed Sunni and Shi'ite town that has seen heavy insurgent activity

http://today.reuters.com/tv/videoStory.aspx?isSummitStory=false&storyId=2b4278b3095929718dc2dfd768a660a13c72df9b
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