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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 03:17 PM
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Are they going to lose the next two elections on purpose,
while engineering events so that the Democrats, once in charge, are forced to declare a draft and expand operations in the Mideast?

Then, come 2010 and 2012, the Neocons come riding back on their white horse ("Told you we were the only ones who knew how to win a war!)... and declare their eternal dominion over a nation weakened by war.

In the meantime, the bloodshed and the profiteering rage on regardless of who's in charge.

Am I talking through my tin hat, or is this a valid possibility?

If it is a valid possibility, what can we do about it?
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 03:21 PM
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1. I've certainly thought that from the git go. What can be done about it?
When the Democrats are in charge do everything they possibly can to make the party so strong that Republicans can't run over us.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 03:22 PM
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2. I think the best approach would be
to convince Republicans that losing the next two elections (or even better, the next 10) is in their best interest.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 03:26 PM
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3. The problem is, the mess they've made is bound to worsen
past the point in time when the public remembers they existed, if they go out of power.

Unless we come up with a real plan to reverse the foreign policy of the neocons, we are going to be stuck with their mess whether we win or lose.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 03:29 PM
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4. No. They will fight like cornered rabid dogs to keep power. (nt)
Edited on Wed Aug-23-06 03:29 PM by w4rma
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Nabia2004 Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 08:09 PM
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15. ...and Diebold is their insurance policy - nt
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 03:33 PM
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5. As a plan it does have merit, they get to dispel the "myth" of rigged
voting, lay the blame for the war and regressive laws they have passed while we were watching the shiny show they've put on for our entertainment, and as you say, cement their position as "strong leaders" for the following decades. :tinfoilhat:
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 03:34 PM
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6. Take the tin hat off....
These guys don't operate like that...

They recruited this bunch of ying yangs 12 years ago with the long shot hope of winning...

They won, they got stuck with 'em...

Now they don't have any better...

You never ever want to give up when you have power....
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 03:43 PM
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8. I'm sure the officeholders don't want to give up
I'm talking about the powers behind them.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 07:59 PM
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12. This isn't about the dem's or the rep's....
It's really about a realignment of voters into different coalitions...

This year, I believe, is the start of one of those periods for the Democrats...

The last real realignment wasn't with Ronald Reagen, as they all like to say, but with Nixon's re-election in 1972...

That was the beginning of the end for the democratic legislative majority in congress....
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CollegeDUer Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 03:34 PM
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7. The neocons have already started to divert money to the Democrats
It is a mistake to call them only a Republican phenomena. They want to be in power no matter what Party holds the oval office.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 03:44 PM
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9. Cleaning up after the rethugs complete and total destruction...
of our country is a messy, thankless job that nobody should want, but somebody with all their faculties and sanity has to do it, hence the Democrats will be elected to put this country back together. We must never let anyone forget WHO put us in this ugly position, our supreme failure, gwb.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 03:44 PM
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10. Either way we have no choice
Its time for the adults to take charge.
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Totallybushed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 04:04 PM
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11. Oh, boy, now
that is really reaching. LOL. That's the tin foil hat talking.

C'mon. Even Karl Rove is not God, and cannot control events to that extent. Believe me, they are not looking past this year. After the election, they will not be looking past 2008. Any other theory is uselessly complex, IMNSHO
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 08:03 PM
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13. Are you kidding? If the Dems take the House and Senate
this year it means prison terms for much of this adminstration. Constitutional violations, Geneva Convention violations, fraud, cronyism and out and out criminal activity. There is no way they are going to let that happen...
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 08:03 PM
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14. they'll use Diebold to throw the election
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 08:17 PM
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16. In my humble opinion. No.
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