Lieberman is lying AGAIN, now about his WMD position!

[BurtWorm]

Last weekend he lied about his questioning of Rumsfeld's competence to lead the DOD to war (he implied he's questioned it all along and that is absolutely not true). Now he's lying about how seriously he took the threat to WMDs.


http://nedlamont.com/blog/1203/snakes-off-the-head-what-are-we-really-fighting-for

The karma karma chameleon really let his true neo-conservative colors shine through this afternoon. TPM Cafe has the transcript.

BECK: Why is it there aren’t more politicians saying, Guys, this is World War III. We are in deep trouble.

LIEBERMAN: Yeah, I mean, I don’t know the answer to that…Everything you just said about the Middle East is right….

We’ll just let that comment stand as is. Take it for what it’s worth and draw your own questions/conclusions from it. It’s hard to imagine, but from there, the fifth party candidate really cut loose.

BECK: I’ve been saying this before we even went into Iraq, that we’re trying to change the face of the Middle East. The weapons of mass destruction was a nice side benefit. We were trying to go and pop the head of the snake in Iran. That’s what we were trying to do. And I don’t think anybody had the courage or could actually come out and say that with world politics the way they are.

LIEBERMAN: Well, you’re right. And I think if I fault the administration for anything before the war—‘cause I think we did the right thing in going in to overthrow Saddam—it’s that they oversold the WMD part of the argument….

Aside from the obvious bungling of the war’s prosecution by the Bush-Cheney-Lieberman cabal, they’ve never been upfront with the American people about why 132,000 of our troops are stuck in the middle of a bloody civil (world?) war. It’s just another reason you can’t trust Senator Lieberman to hold President Bush’s feet to the fire on Iraq.

To them, the war can be best described as a massive public relations campaign at home while crossing thier fingers and hoping for the best overseas. That’s the only reason Senator Lieberman would say, “they oversold the WMD part of the argument.” But incidentally, “they” weren’t the only ones selling the “WMD part of the argument.” So was the cheerleader-in-chief, Joe Lieberman.

Newsmax:

” was trying to break out of the U.N. sanctions by going back into rapid redevelopment of chemical and biological and probably nuclear ,” Lieberman said, calling the Iraqi dictator “a ticking time bomb.”

How about this quote? Joe Lieberman, September 4, 2002 (fixed):

Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for the United States.

[Lasher]

1. Ain't gonna work, he's toast.

This lame attempt to retroactively change his position on the war in Iraq will not help him.

[Hubert Flottz]

2. Joe Lebensraum admits we need to stay in Iraq for the oil.

His "family values" are showing their true colors now! He doesn't value American Families because he would send our kids to die so that EXXON can sell more oil.

[zbdent]

3. What CT needs is to replay all those old attack ads from the Repukes

from 2000 ... with the disclaimer at the end: 'And now, like John McCain, Joe is all buddy-buddy with his "enemies" ...'

[Cronus Protagonist]

4. He's creating smoke and mirrors to obfuscate his position

A common ploy by lying politicians. Once no one knows what the truth is, he can use the propensity of the masses to believe the age old lie, that the past is irrelevant when we have the important issues of today to deal with.

Bush is using that now on Iraq, WMD, etc. and Joe is playing with the same playbook as his friends, the neo-con right-wing Republicans, of which he is obviously one.

Then there's the problem of "the kiss", which is an image that will haunt the rest of his life. Not because it is true that Bush kissed him, but because Bush loves Joe Lieberman so much, he felt the need to kiss another man.



Let me tell you, I'm personally extremely seldom in a place where I feel I want to kiss an acquaintance, never mind even my brother or sister. I don't know about you, but I bet, like me, you would have to be very close to another straight man to think of kissing him on national TV.

Bush wanted to feel the heat from Joe Lieberman's cheek while they shared a loving embrace. That says a lot about George, but more about Joe Lieberman than any words he can ever utter, and not only because he let George kiss him, but because he clearly liked it.

These dogs belong together, George and Joe, and they're not such strange bedfellows, all things considered.

Remember when George got war making powers? Here's a reminder:





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[wicket]

5. K & R

:kick:

[pazuzu]

6. Save some wrath for his soul mate Biden

He's just as bad. And has no chance of winning the 08 nomination.

[applegrove]

7. I think there were many good reasons to do away with Saddam's rule.

Penalizing him for genocide, stopping him from rewarding families of Paliestinian bombers with large amounts of cash, stopping him from stopping UN inspections....

But those were:

1) not the reasons given at the time (WMD was).

2) not the reasons it seems neocons really went in for Iraq war... it seems starting a big huge McWar was the main reason for going into the middle east for neos...starting with Iraq. Why else would Rummy have had such a slow war. One they never seem to win? When war breaks out everywhere else in the Middle East.. we will know for sure.

Seems you gotta work backwards from the results to find out the truth with these types. Once neocons get what they want.. if they get it... we can then work backwards and find out why Iraq was so important to invade. And then we may finally know the reason.

[BurtWorm]

8. There were no good reasons for the US to invade Iraq when it did.

None. I know you weren't saying that there were good reasons for that, but invasion was the only way the US was going to get rid of Saddam with these morons in power.

[applegrove]

9. Saddam needed to go. But some of us really were fooled that it was

the only way. And would be a good thing. I did. I'm one of those moderate Liberals who like to kick genocidal maniac's asses. That being said... people like me assumed * & his generals would try and win the war quickly rather than slowing it down to a torturous tricle with no end in sight.

I fell for Powell's speech. I know that he even doesn't believe it anymore. And apparently didn't believe parts of it at the time. But I bought into trailors and such. But WMD was not my only concern.

Like I said... if the neocons claim they won something some day... we can work backwards from there and see what the real reasons for going to war were.

[BurtWorm]

10. Is there anyone who "really needs to go" now, out of curiosity?

I don't buy that Saddam, who was totally crippled as far as his international ambitions went by the sanctions, so desperately "needed" to go. Whose decision was it?

Mind you, I'm not saying Saddam was a great and wonderful leader or that the Iraqis freely chose him. I'm only arguing that the world has always put up with tyrants in "other countries." It is a very bad precedent the Bushists set when they ignored world opinion just because they arbitrarily decided Saddam "needed to go." Very bad.

[applegrove]

11. Oh - perhaps Mr. Khartoum? You know.. ethnic cleansing. He needs

a "perspective change". I'd be happy if he made a speech begging for forgiveness and asking the UN to stop the Janjaweed. I would have been happy is Saddam Hussein had done the same thing. If he asked the UN to come back full time and promised elections. Which apparently Saddam did... but we didn't know that at the time.

That's my point. Some of us were fooled.

But Mr. Khartown... I'd be happy if we sent some Canadian boys and girls over there in blue helmets to remake the Khartoum's streets into the shape of a Canadian Maple Leaf Flag at this point. When over a million people have to send out granny to collect firewood... because there is a small chance she will not be raped or killed or rape/killed... well change would be good!

[BurtWorm]

12. I'm just suggesting that one way not to get fooled is to respect

every nation's right to sovereignty. The US wouldn't be in the mess it's in if it had respected that.