Are Circumstances Speeding Up Bush's Attack on Iran Timetable??

[Blackhatjack]

We know the Pentagon is not in the loop, and the NeoCons are giving Bush every assurance that the Iran attack can be done with existing manpower and material,even though we are short on boots on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan. Cheney is coordinating the effort and using cherrypicked intelligence from a type of Office of Special Plans Group to support the move.

However, three events may be speeding up the timetable. One, Blair is a virtually gone when Parliment convenes after the August recess. Without Blair, Britain will withdraw troops from Iraq, and basically pull back from the rock solid support Blair pledged to Bush. Two, Iran is on the verge of engaging in protracted negotiations with UN security council members with which it has previously entered into lucrative oil production contracts, and being allowed to continue uranium enrichment. Three, US midterm elections are going to go heavy against Republicans primarily because of the Iraq war debacle, which will leave Bush without a majority to support his decision to attack Iran.

So if the NeoCons are going to have their way, Bush now may be limited to a little over two months to pull the trigger.

[Monkeyman]

1. Nov 1st hmmmm scared yet

[Mountainman]

2. If Bush attacks Iran without the support of Congress the whole world

will turn on him. The MSM will not support it. It will be the end of his reign. I think one of two things is happening. Either the wheels have come off the neocons wagon and they have no power left or they are a bunch of maniacs who are out of control and we are in a world of shit. I go back and forth on these every day.

[bananarepublican]

15. I agree. Fox News still seems to be sustaining the 34 odd percent of...

... nitwits needed to provide cover for unmitigated stupidity.

Don't forget, good ol' Adolph came to power WITH LESS THAN 33% OF THE GERMAN PEOPLES'S VOTE!!!

'The whole world' (except Italy, Japan, Hungary, Finland, initially-the-USSR, and parts of South America - and I know I've missed other centres of support) turned against Nazi Germany.

These are very dangerous times. Anyone in a position to stop what is going on need to step up.

Hitler was intelligent and easily demonized. Bush poses more of a problem to world peace - he is dumb, easily riduculed, who really fears him? Bush is more likely to 'lead' the world into a catastrophe.

[aquart]

3. Pull the trigger AND THEN WHAT?

We just recalled Marines who have been out of service how long? WE HAVE NO ARMY. Our troops are exhausted and killing themselves. WHAT MANPOWER????

If we roll with current strength our people will be massacred. Think the Republicans can win on that?

[global1]

4. I Think The Worse Crime * Has Committed Is Showing To All Of ....

the world just how weak we are.

[aquart]

14. I also blame him for showing it to me.

It didn't make me feel the least bit safe.

[Blackhatjack]

7. They are counting on Americans to rally to their side in times of war...

... especially if they add a terrorism at home element to it.

A little mentioned option they have considered is cancelling elections in this country in the event of a terrorist attack. It has been studied and the subject of a memo to Bush. So if that were to occur in response to our attack on Iran, we could get the ultimate nightmare .... extended Bush presidency until it is "safe" to have an election. A kind of "martial law lite" for us.

[madrchsod]

5. not going to happen

to much is at stake to let george have the codes

[Blackhatjack]

6. The danger presented by NeoCon thinking is ....

....they believe the remaking of the Middle East will make the US, and particularly their friends, richer from the control of Middle East Oil assets under their control. They still believe these wars will pay for themselves.

The disconnect here is they are ideological, not grounded in logistics. They believe that having expensive technology will win the day, even after they just observed an object lesson in the Israeli-Hezbollah conflict where Israel's superior air power could not dislodge the Hezbollah fighters. They just ignore the fact that we do not have the manpower to do what they want to do in the Middle East.

Bush has a narrow view of the world, what is possible, and the likely consequences to arise. He is a danger for the reasons I mentioned in the original post. However, the biggest danger to all of us is that Republican ideologues who have been in power will never admit their mistakes and oppose this because it is the right thing --rather they will do whatever is necessary to remain in power.

[lonestarnot]

8. I have been contemplating and worrying about this very fact.

He's got two months. They will be long ones.

[Raydawg1234]

9. as crazy as they are, they would have to be Reeeealy crazy to try this.

It verges on stupidity. There might even be a military failure. It would hurt the abilty of the neo-cons to maintain power for years. Therefore, I don't think it's gonna happen.

[lonestarnot]

10. He's a stupid, crazy rat bastard. I don't put anything past him.

[Blackhatjack]

11. They waited for years for this possibility, I think they will go for it...

...NeoCon thinking on the Middle East was planned out years ago, and it is a weird mixture of destiny, fundamentalism, and belief that they can accomplish anything if they are willing to be ruthless in their approach.

I think the chances of "success" as they would define it are very small in the real world, but that will not stop them from going full steam ahead.

Their ability to go forward after the midterm elections will be significantly harder knowing the Congressional subpoenoes and investigations that will undoubtedly commence on the Dems taking majority control of the House. I fear they will say "its now or never" and just push forward.

[blues90]

12. I keep going back and forth on this issue

my wife feels if they did attack Iran this will blow their keeping us safe banter . I don't think they are that concerned with this image , they have lied so often out in the open not even tryig to hide it . This tells me they are either insane or just have a plan and simply don't care what the people feel . I keep trying to weigh all I read and hear , trouble is you just have no way of knowing what their intentions are .

If I had money I would not bet it either way at this point . I have come to expect the worst based on what I know at this time . They have certainly proven over and over that they do not value anyother life than the lives of their own kind and of those who have similar goals .

[Amonester]

13. No. Not before the (s)elections.

Iran is not Iraq. If they are illegally attacked, they will retaliate by disrupting the world's oil market (they'll blow up supply: tankers in the Gulf & terminals). The price of a barrel of crude will be catapulted to $250 (says who?? Standard & Poors)!!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2006/08/08/ccbp108.xml

Given the fact that their ratings drop each time the price of gas rises, fillups could triple or quadruple! They'd be toast and they know it.

So expect their lies and fearmongering propaganda (along with UN sanctions) for the next two months, but not a real attack (AF-bombings). That's scheduled for pretty soon after the (s)elections.

Then what will happen with our heating bills next winter when oil reaches $250/barrel (or more)??

Remember New Orleans: We in the North will freeze to death, and we know these "Republicans" don't care about millions of dead Americans just:

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