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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 04:38 PM
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Anyone else notice this about McCain?....
This guy seems to be "prepping the battlefield", if you will, about DEEPER US involvement in Iraq.

He was on one of the Sunday talking-head programs rambling about how we don't have enough troops in Iraq and that "it's still winnable" if we "deal with Sadr" (meaning kill him). Gee that wouldn't piss off anybody in Iraq, would it?

Today he was campaigning in Ohio for DeWine saying that Bush didn't prepare the American people for the "sacrifices that would be required" to win in Iraq..in other words, there aren't enough dead people yet.

This guy gives me the creeps and what is more scary is that I think he could win.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 04:45 PM
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1. McCain is an oil baron's shrew....and people? He's too old
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 05:35 PM
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8. age ceased to matter when Reagan was elected twice
and the second time when he clearly had early stage alzheimers.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 07:28 PM
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15. The only thing clear about Reagan and his Alzheimers is that
it was covered up by WH staffers and the press.
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don954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 04:52 PM
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2. McCain
the republican Lieberman...
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 04:55 PM
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3. McCain is the only con-man who doesnt even have to go out
of his con-cave to con people. They just rush over there
and knock on the con-door and holler, "Con me, please,
Senator McCain, because I know you would never do me wrong!"
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 05:36 PM
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9. Yeah, you old sly "straight-talker" you.
Maybe that guy that managed his campaign way back when wasn't such a loser after all? Then again maybe we'll get lucky and get a real straight talker in the White House. A girl can dream, can't she?
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 06:14 PM
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13. Seems like you were a Dean gal, or do I misremember?
A boy can dream, too.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 06:33 PM
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14. Yeah, and the beauty of that is
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 05:10 PM
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4. He gives me the creeps too.
Always has.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 05:18 PM
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5. I think we should "deal with Sadr" (meaning, um, deal with him)
If you smack down Sadr--by jailing him, killing him, or stripping him of his place at the table--you automatically radicalize half a generation of Shiites in Iraq (not an easy trick since most of hte other half are already supporting violence. That is one move that could ensure an all-out deniability-proof civil war in Iraq. We should be bringing more parties to the table--not showing them that we'll only deal with Iraqis if they do our bidding first. Is the man really that boneheaded? Or is he simply posturing again for the hard-headed Right for 2008.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 05:22 PM
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6. McCain's war call is even scaring the guys at
www.andrewsullivan.com (sorry I can't link to the direct piece, I've got some wierd thing going on with my computer...so here's the clip:

"His growing kitchen cabinet spans an array of issues and backgrounds, and includes James Jay Baker, a former lobbyist for the National Rifle Association; Niall Ferguson, a historian at Harvard; and Barry McCaffrey, who was the drug czar under President Bill Clinton.

Yes, Niall Ferguson. The brilliant financial historian turned foaming-at-the-mouth "national greatness conservative." The "John McCain and Joe Lieberman will break the logjam of American democracy" argument too easily writes off the fact that both men are far more hawkish than the mainstream voter. McCain, in particular, is a class-A neoconservative and more hawkish than Bush. A president with Niall Ferguson on his shoulder is a president who'll stretch our military even thinner across the globe."

I tell you, Sullivan's blog is the most liberal blog going right now. He is so mad at Bush and the Christian right he is trashing them in ways we simply cannot because 1. we get called liberal (the right calls Sullivan liberal too) and 2. we don't know them as well as the right does. This is not from Sullivan as he has 3 guest bloggers while he is on vacation this week and next, and I don't know how he feels about McCain but this guest blogger doesn't seem to care too much for him.


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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 05:32 PM
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7. He criticized the administration's handling of the war today
Edited on Tue Aug-22-06 05:34 PM by DesertRat
Tuesday, August 22, 2006; 4:52 PM

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Republican Sen. John McCain, a staunch defender of the Iraq war, on Tuesday faulted the Bush administration for misleading Americans into believing the conflict would be "some kind of day at the beach."

The potential 2008 presidential candidate, who a day earlier had rejected calls for withdrawing U.S. forces, said the administration had failed to make clear the challenges facing the military.

"I think one of the biggest mistakes we made was underestimating the size of the task and the sacrifices that would be required," McCain said. "Stuff happens, mission accomplished, last throes, a few dead-enders. I'm just more familiar with those statements than anyone else because it grieves me so much that we had not told the American people how tough and difficult this task would be."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/22/AR2006082200855.html

But make no mistake, McCain is a * asskisser. He's my Senator and I have NO respect for him.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 05:43 PM
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10. See my post on why I think McCain can win
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 05:47 PM
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11. Not to worry, he won't win...
Yes, he's getting a lot of press right now, because he's the most recognizable candidate, but come primary season, it won't be an issue. McCain has done FAR too much to alienate the repuke base to ever get their nomination. His "maverick" status comes mostly at the expense of doing things that his own base are opposed to. Every time that word is mentioned, the repukes remember how he "screwed" them on things like judicial nominees, his guest worker proposal with Ted Kennedy, the campaign-finance debacle, and his constant criticism of * (from the left on many issues, as they see it).

Any candidate tends to run to their base during the primaries to get the nomination and then run to the middle during the general election (hoping their base will follow) to pick up the independents and undecideds. McCain has spent the last 6 years fighting against his own base on a number of key issues (though certainly not on all issues), and would probably fair better in a general election than in a repuke primary once the repukes have some other, perceived "conservative", candidate to rally around. I have a couple of repukes in my family, and I don't believe they'll be able to go from saying "friggin' McCain" to "vote McCain" by 2008. IF he were to somehow be the nominee, expect a lower than usual repuke turnout as many will not be willing to hold their nose and vote for him. As was said above, he IS the Lieberman of the repuke party, and will probably appeal to general election voters better than he would to those in his own party, so his chances of getting the nomination are extremely slim at best. Just my 2 cents, though.
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livingonearth Donating Member (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 05:59 PM
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12. Yes, I did notice this and thought the same thing.
Listening to McCain on Sunday I got the distinct impression we may be getting softened up to accept an increase in troop levels in Iraq.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 07:49 AM
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16. Hi livingonearth!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 07:57 AM
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17. McCains only complaint with Bush and Iraq so far has been that...
...we haven't killed enough Iraqis fast enough for him.

Don
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