Am convinced that *Co has had a hand in mosque bombings

[ima_sinnic]

in Iraq. I don't remember which one it was, or when, but there was a major one right around the time when it seemed the Iraqis were uniting against the invaders imminently. The minute I heard the news of it, I immediately suspected *Co of perpetrating it and thought, what a shame, the Iraqis were just about to come together. The motive for doing so is obvious: keep the Iraqis at each other's throats, divided, warring within themselves and unable to mount an effectively united campaign against the occupiers.

Yesterday I heard * say, "it's pretty clear that at least the evidence indicates that the bombing of the shrine was an al Qaeda plot, all intending to create sectarian violence. No, al Qaeda is still very active in Iraq." Listen to the way he says it and the fact that he says it at all, dredging up the good ole al Q boogeyman. And what's with the redundant "it's pretty clear that at least the evidence indicates"? I think he was coached to say "the evidence indicates" and suddenly remembered that, as he was saying "it's pretty clear." To me it sounds like a good case of "doth protest too much," doth hit us over the head with "evidence" to deflect from the fact that in reality there has been no such evidence, has there? (I could be wrong here, I simply don't have time to follow all these trails--but I don't think I've ever seen any credible evidence of even the existence of al Q). Creating "sectarian violence" is exactly what *Co wants and needs to have its own presence unquestioned and unchallenged. As soon as he starting spouting his gibberish about "al Q" and "shrine bombing" I felt certain AGAIN that, like 9/11, he and his underworld compadres know everything there is to know about it.

[SpiralHawk]

1. "What me do Black Ops?" - George Skull & Bones Bush

"What, me torture?" - George AWOL Bush

[Mandate My Ass]

2. Me too. Especially after this fell down the memory hole

Two British Special Forces soldiers caught in Arab garb with explosives were busted out of jail after being capture by Iraqi police last year. This has false flag ops written all over it.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/200905stagedterror.htm

[ima_sinnic]

4. yes, I remember that well. of course, as usual, nobody objected or

wanted to look into it.

[soothsayer]

3. the spooks call that "sparkle" (bombing something yourself---

well, usually your own assets---and then blaming an enemy you are trying to foment opinion against). Lots of 'em said 911 had all the earmarks of sparkle.

[unpossibles]

5. it's crossed my mind too

what's funny is, if you look at history there are all kinds of things like this that happened "back then" but if someone suggests such things still occur, one is called a conspiracy theorist at best, and a traitor at worst.

And yes, a lot of the CT stuff is way too far out there, but this isn't at all - it actually explains a lot, such as why Bush said he is not surprised about how Iraq is doing, even though it is the opposite of the stability he said he wanted.

[RaleighNCDUer]

6. I've thought that from the start.

Just before the Golden Mosque was bombed, the attacks on US troops were getting more and more effective, there was news of Iraqi militias in fire-fights against 'foreign fighters' e.g., al-Quaida, and reports of Sunni and Shia cooperating. After the bombing there was a string of other attacks against specifically Sunni or Shia targets and the ethnic divisions were exacerbated by US rhetoric. All of a sudden we began hearing about this Al Zarqawi, who the bombing of the mosque was pinned on. We began hearing less about US deaths (though the numbers did not really drop - just in comparison to mounting Iraqi deaths) and more about massacres of civilians, and nobody knew who was doing the killing.

That was, IMO, the beginning of the next phase - blame Iran.

[ima_sinnic]

7. yes, that's the one, the Golden Mosque.

And the details/your analysis are quite well put together.

And what in hell is * talking about when he says in the press conf (paraphrasing) "Zarqawi was brought to justice"? hel-LO-- he was killed! (MOST CONVENIENTLY, I'd have to say, since al Q wanted him gone but wanted it done in a way that would be a "martyr's death" and also because then he was silenced and could give no info at all about the workings of al Q--and who is financing them)--"brought to justice" would mean he WENT TO TRIAL you lying sack of putrid, stinking rotten dead animal guts.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

8. "the Iraqis were just about to come together"

Isn't it pretty to think so?

[RaleighNCDUer]

12. They were uniting --

against us.

Saddam was in custody, the 'foreign fighters' were being marginalized, the framework for a post-Saddam government was being agreed upon, and their politicians were starting to say it was time for the US to pull out, let them get on with rebuilding. Even Sadr was publicly rejecting interference from Iran's mullahs.

The destruction of the Golden Mosque put the kabosh on all that. Very convenient.

[donsu]

9. me too - they want chaos in Iraq

(it's said that even chaos and randomness have patterns - patterns have power)

[leftchick]

10. The Samarra Shrine?

there were many people on the ground reporting it as being done by the US. I believe it too.

Blast Destroys Shrine in Iraq, Setting Off Sectarian Fury

By ROBERT F. WORTH
Published: February 22, 2006

BAGHDAD, Iraq, Feb. 22 — A powerful explosion shattered the golden dome of one of Iraq's most revered Shiite shrines this morning, setting off a day of almost unparalleled sectarian fury in cities and towns across Iraq as protesting mobs took to the streets to chant for revenge and set fire to dozens of Sunni mosques.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/22/international/middleeast/22cnd-iraq.html?ex=1298264400&en=9adec6f021cd67f5&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

[thethinker]

11. I have been wondering

Has there ever been a case in history of Muslims destroying each other's mosques? I don't know how to research this. Does anyone know how old these mosques were?