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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 06:29 PM
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34 Dem Talking Points to WIN, by my pal Esbe:
Esbe’s Democratic talking points –When they decide they want to win-

1. Is the United States safer without it’s allies?

2. Is the United States safer with it’s military decimated and trapped in Iraq losing a batallion a month?

3. Is the United States safer with the entire Arab world enraged on account of an illegal war?

4. Did Bush get Bin Laden?

5. Is the United States safer with the Taliban back in Afghanistan and not enough troops because of Iraq?

6. Was America prepared on September 10th 2001 with Bush explicitly warned and supposedly in charge?

7. Was New Orleans safer with Bush in charge?

8. Do you like being told that if you don’t support Republicans, you’re “on the side of the terrorists”?

9. Did Bush “solve the middle east problem” or is it now erupting in flames?

10. Do you feel safer when Republicans cut port security bugets?

11. Did it tell you something when Bush tried to turn New York/New Jersey port security over to an Arab company?

12. Does it tell you something that the same Arab company is still in charge of New York/New Jersey port security 6 months after the arrangement was supposedly banned by congress?

13. Do you wonder why Bush opposed the creation of the 9-11 commission?

14. Do you wonder why he immediately hired a personal attorney after 9-11?

15. Do you wonder why Bush and Cheney REFUSED to be sworn in to swear to tell the truth when questioned by Congress about 9-11?

16. Did you liked being lied to 237 times to “justify” attacking Iraq?

17. Do you think a man who was willing to lie 237 times to attack a country which never attacked us, and to kill a hundred thousand innocent people in Iraq, might have been willing to kill three thousand people in New York city to “justify” doing what he wanted to do?

18. Do you think letting a thousand illegal aliens a day cross our border while confiscating your shampoo at the airport is a legitimate national security policy?

19. Do you think declaring there are “no symbols of national significance” in New York in order to justify cutting proposed anti-terrorism funding is a legitimate national security policy?

20. Do you like the 20,000 Iraq casualties for NOTHING; no WMD, no democracy, no peace, only increasing chaos and death?

21. Do you like starting unnecessary wars and then LOSING them?

22. Do you approve of remaining in a lost cause and watching our soldiers die only to protect Republican politicians from admitting the obvious defeat which has taken place?

23. Republicans have controlled all 3 branches of government for 6 years, who then is responsible for all this?

24. Do you think keeping the people who’ve lied and repeatedly failed national security on the job, to fix what they broke, is smart?

25. Do you like living in the most hated nation on earth now?

26. Do you like having a religious delusional who claimed ““God”” told him to strike at Saddam”, with his finger on the nuclear button?

27. Would you like the United States to attack Iran on false WMD pretenses too? "Fool me once....": Bush couldn't even finish the sentence correctly, can you?

28. Do you want a man who believes Armageddon is “necessary” to fulfill his religious beliefs?

29. Do you want two more years of this nightmare?
30. Would you like Bush and Cheney re-questioned about 9-11 and compelled to answer under oath?

31. Had enough fear?

32. Had enough abuse of power, contempt of congress, violations of the Constitution, violations of the court, arrests, indefinite detainment, and torture without trial?

33. Had enough of being ashamed of your own country, all on account of a few contemptible criminals?

34. Tired of being held hostage to elevated terror alerts before elections and having your patriotism questioned when you notice they’re compulsive liars?

If you have had enough, realize that the ONLY way to change this disastrous course, is to elect Democratic representatives who will act to remove Bush from office. A vote for ANY Republican anywhere, is a vote for more of the disasters you’ve already seen and worse to come.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 06:36 PM
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1. Great talking points. How do we get them out to everyone?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:19 PM
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12. recommend the thread, for starters!
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 06:41 PM
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2. Those are really great......
I applaud you for spending the time to research them. Help me with one of your points. In 17 you mention 100k and in point 20 its 20K. Are you talking about two different sets of circumstances. In my view there are 100,000 innocent casualtys in Iraq. Just curious where 20,000 comes into play. Thanks
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 07:57 PM
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9. I'll check w/him
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 06:43 PM
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3. I liked this post enough that I printed it out.
I may just post it in a couple of places.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 07:04 PM
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7. That's a great idea
:thumbsup:
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 06:52 PM
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4. The other day, there was a posting about writing short
messages on currency. Some of these talking points would be perfect for this. Chose your favorites and write them across all your money and then spend them.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 06:55 PM
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leanin_green Donating Member (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 06:57 PM
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6. Oh chit! Now I know the Party has been infiltrated. Your actually. . .
mentioning "talking points." I guess there isn't really a difference between the parties after all.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 07:54 PM
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8. LOL i hope you're joking!
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leanin_green Donating Member (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 02:05 AM
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16. Actually, no I'm not.
It's the oldest tactic in the world, defeat your enemy from within.
How easy would it be to infiltrate the Democratic Party and spread like leaven? They call it the New Center of the Democratic Party. So called moderates and the trumpeters of bi-partisanship. But you can't work with a party that has the sole aim to destroy you and anyone who thinks like you do. Progressivism is literally in a fight for its very existence. The sooner we all come to terms with that, the better and wiser we all will be.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 07:59 PM
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10. BTW This has been sent already to every member of the House & Senate and
oped news.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:01 PM
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11. We Take The House And John Conyers Will Do The Rest

IMPEACH!
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 12:43 AM
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13. excellent post.Thanks.
:kick:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 12:47 AM
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14. Get thee to the Greatest page!
Edited on Sun Aug-20-06 12:48 AM by calimary
This is a great list - VERY usable. Great tools here - 34 of them. Lots of good thinking. Everyone will benefit from this work you and your friend did. THANKS!

This needs to be said, read, and SPREAD!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 01:14 AM
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phylny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 06:09 AM
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17. I like this list.
Not meaning to be snarky, but before you circulate it, change these things:

"It's" means "it is," so the correct way to write what you meant is, "Is the U.S. safer without its allies?" There are a few examples of this to correct.

batallion should be battalion

bugets should be budgets

"'God' told him to strike at Saddam"

Last, I'm not sure if "Congress" is capitalized. Someone smarter than I am can answer :)
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