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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 04:27 PM
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if someone has an "administrative discharge" from the military
ie: flunked a whiz quiz, was demoted and discharged with administrative separation - can they still be forced back into service under IRR?
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 04:29 PM
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1. I suppose not, but then they will face a military court martial and
...probably a firing squad.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 04:35 PM
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2. I was serious - my son rcvd a discharge as described
I am concerned about the activation of Individual Ready Reserve soldiers... He still had time left on his contract but they kicked him out on the "one strike and you are out" program.....

Does anyone know if this means he is safe now?
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 04:44 PM
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5. Yes I know, and did not mean to sound insensitive or flighty about
...this very serious matter, called the "back-door draft". There are numerous horror stories about this on the internet. Here is one from not that long ago:

<snip>
Gulf War Veteran Sues Army Over Involuntary Recall, Called Up 13 Years After Honorable Discharge in “Back-Door Draft”

HONOLULU, HI -- November 9 -- On November 5, Kauai, Hawai’i, resident David M. Miyasato filed a lawsuit here in the United States District Court seeking to restrain the United States Army from involuntarily recalling him to active duty.

After being ignored by the Army for weeks, the Army responded within hours after Miyasato filed his suit, granting him an “administrative delay” for up to 30 days, and notifying Mr. Miyasato he would soon be receiving a “new report date”.

His attorney, Eric A. Seitz, said, “My belief is that the Army is hard-pressed to recruit enough troops to send to Iraq and they're activating reserves as means to avoid implementing the draft. This, however, is a back-door draft.”

Mr. Miyasato enlisted in the Army in 1987 for a term of eight years. His enlistment contract specified that he would serve on active duty for three years and then be enrolled in the inactive reserves for five additional years.
<more>
http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/1109-09.htm

Good luck, I hope you can find help for your son not to have to return.
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 04:36 PM
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3. Nope. Discharge = OUT
the IRR have not yet been discharged
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 04:40 PM
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4. FANTASTIC!!!!
thank you!

:hug:

I come from a very military family - born on Camp LeJeune - and have always supported out folks in uniform but I do NOT want my son serving under the bfee......

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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 04:55 PM
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6. I'm not sure that is correct.
I personally know someone currently over 60 yrs old who was honorably discharged in 1977 and got an IRR letter 2 years ago. He tried everything legal that he could afford to do. He actually supported the Iraq war at the time and had nothing against serving but a 60 odd yr old man who's been out of the military almost 30 years? He has been in Kuwait for 18 months despite the fact he was told they would only need him for 6 months. He is a coroner.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 05:08 PM
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7. He must be an officer
That's different. Enlistments are for a specified number of years while officer commissions are for life.
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