Lieberman: We love to hate him. But why?

[graywarrior]

I have never liked the guy. I can't find a definite reason. My dislike started when Gore chose him as a running mate and the more he opens his mouth, the more I can't stand him.

But for me there was a dislike of the guy right from the start. It's a deep revulsion, like a reaction to toxicity, like swallowing kaopectate, or purging...or watching someone else throw up.

I can't think of any other democrat that does the same thing to my stomach lining. Well, there was Zell, but he's a crazy old coot. I dunno, maybe it's just a chemical reaction.

[Swamp Rat]

1. Here ya go:

[Nite Owl]

2. It may be some sort of

body language that our brains just can't accept. Some silent signal that says this isn't right, he's lying to me. I know I can't watch * either, it's a total physical and mental revulsion and though it has gotten worse I always felt it from him.

[Jed Dilligan]

3. For me it started with his "freedom from religion" crap

That really got me somehow.

[patricia92243]

4. He is a traitor. That is the reason I don't care for him now. Didn't

care that much one way or the other before he became the Sore Loser from CT. Didn't like him for being so footsy with Bush, but didn't understand that it is as bad as it is.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

5. Perhaps you just have a genetically negative reaction to assholes.

Especially to pious, constipated looking, assholes.

[graywarrior]

6. LOL

[AlinPA]

7. re: Words from an old Cher song: "Its in his kiss"...........

[pooja]

8. Its the way he wear's blue. Like he's there for blue collared workers.

But we all know he doesn't know an honest, back breaking day in his life. Its all stage and all phoney. And its not just a blue shirt... its the hue of the shirt. I know that all politicians use style to make a point. but it just seems wrong to me to act like one of the guys when you are clearly not. Also, if you are a politician... dress the suit man... we all know what you are. Personally I want a well-rounded, dress the part, educated to the hilt, and little bit smooth talking to be a politician. Its what we expect. Acting like regular joe schmoe doesn't work unless you are actually a joe schmoe.

[graywarrior]

10. Very observant of you. Yes, it's a definite shade of blue he wears.

[pooja]

25. Its the wrong color for his pale white and white hair.. a lighter shade

of blue or white would be much better... and he needs to wear browns...it would soften the dead stiff look of an all black suit.

It seems to me he took a hanes t-shirt that had been washed and sun-dried about 30 times and told his taylor to match the color. Problem is, it doesn't work for him. He is not the govenator.. Now Arnold could pull that color off, but he would pair that with a light brown/ tan suit.

[Kagemusha]

9. Maybe because he says all who oppose him are jihadist insurgents?

To me that kinda puts it over the top.

[bigtree]

11. He is challenging our party

to be more like the republicans

[Zomby Woof]

12. It's a combination of two main factors

Extreme sanctimony, to the point of unction, coupled with a voice that sounds like a slug on nitrous oxide.

[graywarrior]

13. The vibrato whine.

Makes me scream inside my head.

[pnwmom]

35. Yes! That slow, condescending, whiny voice.

Ugh.

[ninkasi]

42. Yes!

For me, it was because of the whine, and the whole attitude of being holier-than-thou and everybody else in the world. My dislike has intensified over time, because for a man who claims to be a Democrat, he sure spends a lot of time giving adoring looks at Chimp. I also get the feeling, when he speaks, that he's lecturing us, not simply stating his point of view, or explaining something.

[Quixote1818]

14. He seems really self centered and shallow to me.

He just bugs me!

[EstimatedProphet]

15. How about the fact that he's a rubberstamp for Bush?

Enough reason for me. The fact that he's not a Democrat, and couldn't handle losing the primary so he gave up the party and takes Republican support is just gravy.

[graywarrior]

17. Yes, but did you like him before all this?

I couldn't stand the guy since 1999.

[EstimatedProphet]

19. I liked Gore in 2000

and I thought it was a gutsy move to pick him as VP at the time. Other than that I didn't know him.

[IChing]

16. "That's it! I have had it with these motherf---ing snakes

in this motherf---ing government!"

[TahitiNut]

18. I can't help but compare him to Orrin Hatch.

Same unctious self-satisfaction. Same empty moralizing. Same pandering to corporate interests.

It's admittedly a superficial thing - their voting records are widely divergent. However, their attitudes seem to intersect in my view.

[Cassandra]

20. Sanctimonious and he takes Bush's side against us.

During the 2004 campaign he went down to Florida and told Jewish voters that he thought Bush was strongly pro-Israel but he wasn't sure about Kerry's support for Israel. :mad:

[Quixote1818]

21. His "Joementum" slogan didn't help my opinion of him.

Joe is such a dork and that droopy face is irritating. Who ever came up with that slogan should be SHOT!!!!

[graywarrior]

22. Joementum always sounded like a sperm donation to me.

And not onto a petri dish, neither.

[neoblues]

32. Or maybe a medicated cream...

for Herpes lesions (or perhaps the skin sores related to some kind of venereal/sexually-transmitted disease (STD) that ultimately eats away at the brain; or just plain old genital warts; then again it could be for any of the following: AIDS, Gonorrhea, Hepatitis, Scabies, Syphilis, etc).

On second thought, perhaps it's just for Hemorrhoids or anal tearing (ouch).

[graywarrior]

36. Exactly!

OMG, we're so adult.

[buddhamama]

23. i never disliked Lieberman

i simply did not agree with him on many important issues.

[BuyingThyme]

24. By explaining that all morality comes from Judao-Christian teachings

Joe admitted to being a supremacist hunk of stool.

That's when I started hating the guy. He is a danger to the human race.

[movonne]

26. Because he is a repug....I started really disliking him after he

had his famous debate with chaney...I now think the DLC put him in as vp to have a repug in...I saw that some of the DLC are repugs...

[Fridays Child]

27. His voice sounds like creaking hinges.

But I could tolerate that, if he weren't a DINO.

[last1standing]

28. Its because he loves to hate us.

Sure Lieberman is more conservative than most people on this board and most Dems in general, but so are a lot of other Democratic senators. The difference is that the others don't go on FAUX and tell the country how evil we are. Nelson, Pryor, Landreiu and others keep their heads down and seem to understand that they are out of the mainstream of the party. We then continue to support them because they're still somewhat better than repubs.

Holy Joe, on the other hand, delights in rubbing our noses in the fact that we are in the minority. He loves nothing better than telling ever microphone how traitorous we are. He ridicules us while cozying up to the repubs. That is what makes him so vile. If he hadn't done all those things, Lamont would never have run and Democrats would never have jumped on his bandwagon.

Lamont isn't a sign that the left wing is taking over the party, its a sign that we still have some self respect.

[alarimer]

29. It is a sort of sanctimoniousness

if that's a word. It comes across in his desire to blame video games or Hollywood for violence, for example. The fact that he formed a group with Lynne Cheney that basically criticizes professors at universities for being "too liberal" or some such.

He might be an okay guy some of the time, but after 9/11 he decided to kiss Bush's ass and did not stop when it became apparent that this administration is the most dangerous one we have ever had.

[neoblues]

30. The Same Reaction Here...

I feel like I can see right through the guy--and my x-ray examination tells me he's a liar to the bone; like a dishonest used-car salesman with a lazy, whiney (but low pitched) drawl who would say anything to sell you the temporarily fixed lemon in order to get his sales bonus.

I know that this is my imagination; I can't read minds. I know that it's a form of bigotry/prejudice to judge someone by a personal reaction to someone's appearance or the sound of their voice... (I believe a DU'er who tried to question him and who was promptly ejected from the event reported he had bad breath--I would predict that to be the case most of the time anyway). So, I just get feeling of deep revulsion (which would soon turn to disgust).

So, to be fair, I went about researching the fellow, reading his speeches, listening to and/or watching him give interviews and analyzing both his history and postion on the issues--I find that the evidence/facts convict him and revolt me even more strongly than his personal qualities. He is an unworthy, Democrat-In-Name-Only, DLC'er who is a member of a Neocon political organization (who gave them a keynote address about IRAQ), a politician who takes seriously dirty contributions (they may be legal, but they're almost certain to be unethical and would lead any rational person to suspect his motives) and on and on it goes.

"When I asked if he was becoming a neoconservative, Lieberman smiled and said, “No, but some of my best friends are neocons.”" --New Yorker: Fact And he thinks this is a good thing--the "bi-partisan" thing to do (unite America... blah, blah, blah, when unfortunately the Rethug side won't compromise or even negotiate fairly, unity isn't an option for the sake of our nation's future).

The disgust just grows. He loses the primary, and not only does he thumb his nose at Democrats and the traditional political process, he gives a concession speech in which he is rude and abusive towards his opponent and accuses him of a variety of bad behavior--behavior that in fact, only Joe himself had engaged in (a perfect example of Rovian/Republican tactics). What a jerk. He seems to think that only he is capable of understanding what the Democratic electorate really means (not to mention the fact he insists on running as an independent for the sake of the country--as he believes he is so important/special/capable that the country needs him--only he can do the job); what an egotistical political opportunist. Besides giving the Democratic Party a lousy image--he's exactly the kind of elected leader we don't need and instead need to be rid of!

He's no quitter... if he loses he will show up and serve anyway... no, it's not "persistence", it's called "stalking".

Joe·Begone! Before I suffer Joe·lancholy and become Joe·icidal...

Really, do us all a favor and just quietly go away (and don't come back). Thanks Joe, we will appreciate it.

[Malikshah]

31. Hypocrisy, sanctimonious, murderous traits.

Anyone who would analyze away the deaths of thousands in a holier-than-thou way is mud in my book.

BTW-- I don't "love to hate" anyone.

He's a disappointment, as are many others. No love involved.

[Cha]

33. A picture says a 1000 woids!

Knowing what lies bush was spewing..joe lie-berman should have had a scowl on his face to say the least!

[hlthe2b]

34. Umm, because he's a self-serving, narcissistic, brown-nosing,

ingratiating, untrustworthy, consquences be damned, back-stabbing wooden puppet of the Bush* administration?





Is there anyone among us, who hasn't had to deal with someone like this--in childhood, or even more recently? Once you recognize the characteristics in another individual, it is hard not to react viscerally. They survive by making others think that they are "jovial and likeable" or especially "statesman-like" and "honorable." Like everything else about them, that, too, is just an act.

[Lexingtonian]

37. he's the Republican stereotype of a Democratic politician

I.e. slick, lying, always claiming high moral ground, but then down and dirty, of the kind that was around in pretty good numbers from the LBJ days to about 1994 (i.e. Sam Nunn), but mostly out and about during the Carter days.

The reason we don't like him is because he's a part of the Party's past, one that we thought we'd mostly shed. And we have to get rid of. To me, all of his 'views' and thinking just reek of the politics of the late Seventies mainstream. He's simply stuck there, and he believe that since a lot of other people are too that, well, living in the past is okay if not desirable. It may be, but not for Democrats in 2006...the Republicans have worked utterly desperately to be the Party of the past in which their Left Behind voters want to live.

We've been slowly detaching the worst of these latent/overt live-in-the-past (distinguishable from conservatives, who do let go of bad ideas) parasites from the Party...well, most of them have defected or retired. Joe's curious situation is that he's had the bad luck of being the first prominent one that the Party is finally healthy enough (just enough) to try to pluck off on its own power.

[Vidar]

38. He's a traitor & Republican whore.

[Irreverend IX]

39. He never acted like he wanted to win.

Until he ran against a Democrat, anyway. When I watched his first debate with Cheney I wanted to throttle him after watching his simpering apologies and concessions. He's too polite to object when the Repugs walk all over him, too friendly to raise a fuss when they assault the Constitution. But when a real progressive threatens his position, he shows his true colors and lashes out like a cornered, half-starved coyote.

[graywarrior]

40. Great description

Thanks for posting.

[orpupilofnature57]

41. He's a Sam Nunn Democrat Exposed!My distrust of the term " Progressive "