Is okay to call Condi Rice a macaca?

[rfranklin]

I understand this is a humorous quip in Republican circles.

[LibDemAlways]

1. Only if you are a republican Senate candidate seeking

the votes of racists. Otherwise, it's bad form.

[bluerum]

2. I disagree. I always thought macaca meant friend or acquaintance.

That means I am in the clear to use that term for Condi.

:eyes: :sarcasm:

[rfranklin]

3. Thanks, I was adopting Republican "values"

Jesus taught me to know better than to listen to the Pharisees. I forgot.

[koopie57]

4. Absolutely

provided that the next day you say "I'm sorry if it offended her".

[eleny]

14. No, no, no! You have to say this the next day....

"I'm sorry if she misunderstood me."

It's never, ever your fault! :hi:

[librechik]

5. is she wearing a mohawk?

cuz that's the only reason I can think of...

[Demit]

6. Only if you mean to say "Mohawk" as you are welcoming her to the country

in which she was born. I believe this is the proper Republican etiquette.

[elehhhhna]

7. A Mulcaca would be more accurate.

She sported a mullet hairdo for years, remember?

[Drum]

16. Other options:

props to original (and brilliant) DUer who posted this months ago, whomever you are :)

[LWolf]

8. NO. n/t

[tigersumtin]

9. Doesn't CA CA mean something else

In Spanish? If it does mean what I think it means in Spanish, then yea, shes one big pile of it. TT:hurts:

[Jane Austin]

10. No.

and No.

[hlthe2b]

11. So, am I going to Hell, since I chuckled momentarily before becoming ....

outraged at the thought? I promise it was unintentional (the chuckle). :eyes:

[IndianaGreen]

12. Condi is a crypto-nazi dominatrix

May 12, 2006

American Dominatrix

We're scaring the world – and they hate us for it

Anti-Americanism is a big problem for U.S. business: if people turn against America because of the policies of our government, then that means lost profits. Our proclivity for alienating the citizens of practically every nation is costing us a pretty penny, and Business for Diplomatic Action Inc. (BDA), a non-profit organization founded by advertising executive Keith Reinhard, means to repair the damage. Although they don't come right out and say it, BDA is all too aware of the source of this hostility: American foreign policy. That's the major reason BDA is issuing a "World Citizen's Guide" for corporate travelers, which gives Americans a few pointers on how to deal with the dirty looks and muttered imprecations, and includes among its 16 suggestions:

"Think as big as you like but talk and act smaller. In many countries, any form of boasting is considered rude. Talking about wealth, power or status – corporate or personal – can create resentment."

Good advice for the ordinary private citizen, but what about all those "public intellectuals" whose voices have far more reach than the average businessman on a trip to Bali? Take, for example, Bill Kristol, editor of The Weekly Standard and a familiar talking head on Fox News, who has publicly come out for a foreign policy based on "benevolent global hegemony"? This goes beyond mere "boasting," in my view, and even beyond arrogance: I mean, who else but an American would make the claim that a plan for world conquest is evidence of "benevolence"?

Okay, you say, but Kristol is an isolated case. Not quite. Where else but in Washington, D.C., could we have a "debate" on American foreign policy between Niall Ferguson and Robert Kagan, in which the two debaters quibble over whether the U.S. government should call itself an "empire" or a "hegemon"? Our politicians and their coteries of Washington policy wonks routinely discuss the prospect of invading this or that country the way other people debate the relative merits of shopping at either Macy's or Gimbel's. Right now we are having a national discussion about whether or not we should drop nukes on Iran. I mean – how rude!

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=8983

[bigtree]

13. no

[Swamp Rat]

15. Call her whatever you want, but that doesn't change the fact that she is

an alien lizard.

[yurbud]

17. doesn't it mean 'my caca'?

Like you just took a dump in the woods and you tell your friend, 'Be careful, don't step in macaca.'

[mtnsnake]

18. I think this thread is an embarrassment to DU & I hope it's locked

The only person I've hear call Condi Rice such a name is you. Anyone can claim they heard someone else say it, but proving it is something else. You have no links and all you're doing is planting a nasty racial thought into the minds of lurkers.

[Midlodemocrat]

22. The OP is referring to George Allen and his calling a young

man a 'macaca'. The OP isn't slurring anyone, just making fun of Allen and his 'apology'.

[mtnsnake]

25. I know all about Allen's despicable macaca comment

There is no need to indirectly label Rice in the same manner and justify it by saying they understand this is a humorous quip in Republican circles, yet they provide no evidence that supports that notion.

However it was intended, it could come off as just an excuse to call Condi Rice the same thing and that's not right.

[Midlodemocrat]

26. I don't think the OP was intended to insult Rice by calling her that.

I read it as the hypocrisy of the RW, that they can do and say anything as long as they offer a half assed apology about it.

That being said. I live in VA and Allen has to go. Even some rethugs here were appalled at that comment he made.

[yurbud]

19. Randi Rhodes said it's some Euro slang for blacks

[tocqueville]

23. Randi is wrong

it's supposed to be a French word, it isn't

it's true that the word "macaque" means monkey (at least a type of monkey) in French and is used as a derogatory term in general and as a racial slur against non whites in particular. But it's pronounced "makak", not "macaca".
The fact is that it is derogatory because of the "ak" sound, which is common in French slang words.

macaca is only used as the Latin name for the genus of those apes, but normally you don't swear in Latin.

Regarding the Allen story I don't know if the "French explanation" is really the right one. Probably it's a mixture of several factors. It doesn't change anything to the fact that it was a racial slur aimed to hurt somebody.

in French you could call Condi "guenon" which is the female word for monkey. Not worse than calling George a chimp.

In both cases the quoted animals are insulted.

[yurbud]

24. Allen's mom is from Tunisia, so it my have a dialect spin on it

[tocqueville]

27. Allen's mother is a Jew, who moved to Tunisia after the war.

and there is no fucking French dialect in Tunisia that says "macaca". There are few French words that ends with "a". They have a tendency to end with an "e" often not prronounced. It's more the property of Italian or Spanish to have words in "a".

It doesn't change anything to the fact that Allen used the word in a derogatory racial slur.

[ScreamingMeemie]

20. As long as you apologize for any "misinterpretation of your remarks"

You should be okay. :hi:

[Kickoutthejams23]

21. Only if she gets Mr. T's Haircut

[immoderate]

28. Does anyone remember a college beer game called M'hump?

Could it be?:shrug:

--IMM