Is there even one example of a wiretap request that FISA turned down?

[elehhhhna]

If so, on what grounds did they reject it?

[Richard Steele]

1. They don't reveal that info.

Even when they deny one, it stays secret.

[rzemanfl]

2. I think the answer is no, but if they told us, someone would have

to shoot us.

[thepurpose]

3. I remember hearing they have only turned down 3 or 4 in the history of the

law.

[Bozita]

5. That's my recollection

[kenny blankenship]

10. My recollection too, out of 10,000s of requests, only handful denied

[Junkdrawer]

4. I believe the Bushies asked for one that was completely outrageous...

and was turned down.

[Junkdrawer]

6. I Googled this up...

http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2005/12/fisa-court-rejected-bush-surveillance.html

[LSK]

7. when he wiretapped the UN and the Kerry Campaign...

If he would have asked...

[rodeodance]

8. and I think it was Chertoff who said a Warrent was used in the Brit plot.

[Time for change]

9. According to the Center for Contstitutional Rights

Between 1995 and 2004, the FISA Court received 10,617 surveillance requests, and they approved all but 4.

[Dems Will Win]

11. We have to repeat these numbers ad nauseum for '06

10,617 surveillance requests, and they approved all but 4!!

[alfredo]

12. And that was so they could re-word the warrant and

resubmit the request.

[elehhhhna]

13. WOW! That's a 0.000376754262 percent turn-down rate

and as you can see, 0.000376754262 is a really big number! oooh I'm scared now.

[alfredo]

15. this is all about hiding illegal wiretapping on rivals.

Why else would he want to hide what he is doing?

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

14. Not only that, but they all were during *'s 3rd year in office

Here: FISA Orders 1979-2005

:tinfoilhat: anyone? While I can't prove a damn thing, I think * wiretapped key Democratic campaign headquarters and politicans offices.

That's why he went around the FISA courts, which is, according to this chart and various reports, notoriously easy to get
approval even after the fact.

On Edit: it was his 3rd year in office, not his second. :dunce:

[elehhhhna]

16. BTW. is it true they started this BEFORE 9/11/01?

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

17. As far as I know they've been used since 1979 (probably earlier)

But the FISA court was established so there would be
another layer of oversight for these wiretaps. Even though they could be obtained
up to three days after the wiretap, the FISA court didn't turn any down except for the 4 in 2003.

There was a most excellent post made when the warantless wiretaps became public several months ago
that explains it (and the connotations of *'s abuse of the system) much better than I could.
I'll see if I can find it.