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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 05:21 PM
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RAW Story: Bogus Briefings on Iran Fed to Cheney – Formula for War
Comment: Larisa thanks again. These guys are one trick ponies…bad intelligence based on worse evidence used to justify a war of aggression which fits neatly into the Neoconservative fantasy nightmare used to “bring us together.”


http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Intelligence_officials_doubt_Iran_uranium_claims_0818.html

Intelligence officials doubt Iran uranium claims,
Say Cheney receiving suspect briefings
Filed by Larisa Alexandrovna



08/18/2006 @ 2:32 pm

The Bush administration continues to bypass standard intelligence channels and use what some believe to be propaganda tactics to create a compelling case for war with Iran, US foreign experts and former US intelligence officials tell RAW STORY.

One former senior intelligence official is particularly concerned by private briefings that Vice President Dick Cheney is getting from former Office of Special Plans (OSP) Director, Abram Shulsky.

"Vice President Cheney is relying on personal briefings from Shulsky for current intelligence on Iran," said this intelligence official.

Shulsky, a leading Neoconservative and member of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), headed the shadowy and secretive Department of Defense's OSP in the lead-up to the Iraq war -- helping to locate intelligence that would support the Bush administration's case for war with Iraq.

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Several sources suggested that the Iranian Directorate, as did its predecessor -- the OSP, may be cherry picking, manipulating, and even planting intelligence abroad that would support a case against Iran in the minds of the public.

Expressing great frustration, one former high ranking intelligence officer said "it is all the Neocons." Asked about the allegations of the uranium transaction from Congo-to-Iran, this source remarked: "Total bullshit."




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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 05:23 PM
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1. The PNACers are playing the same hand as Iraq!
How fucking stupid are they?
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 05:29 PM
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3. The question they ask is...
how stupid are we?
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 05:33 PM
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5. Well if we let them start a war with Iran
then I'd say we are pretty fucking stupid.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 06:35 AM
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16. Why doesn't Cheney's heart
just fugging stop.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:22 PM
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9. Hey, it worked once. Why not again? People are falling for it.
So, who's really stupid? :shrug:
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:35 PM
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10. True and that's just so sorry assed
It's been this way since they all played in the friggin Team B exercises under Jerry Ford--another president who they treated as not being the brightest star in the constellation.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 05:27 PM
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2. Oh the hubris!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 05:32 PM
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4. True indeed...but it's a great week to start the weekend...
...just knowing that we've got a really CONSISTENT team in there...

The greatest thing about this man is he's steady. You know where he stands. He believes the same thing Wednesday, that he believed on Monday, no matter what happened Tuesday. Events can change, this man’s beliefs never will. And as excited as I am to be here with the president, I am appalled to be surrounded by the liberal media that is destroying America, with the exception of fox news.

Stephen Colbert (From "A Moderate Perspective" http://journals.democraticunderground.com/autorank/69)
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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 05:41 PM
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6. I think PNAC was modeled of of this guy's ideas
Neoconservative fantasy nightmare used to “bring us together.”
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lgn19087 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 05:59 PM
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7. Imagine my suprise nm
nm
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:07 PM
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8. I used to have a penpal that worked at the IAEA in the 1980's.
Edited on Fri Aug-18-06 06:08 PM by vickiss
"According to a source close to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the story is "highly unlikely" and "not well researched."

His name was Yuri Lipatov from Moscow. A very honest and decent man that met my daughter, age 8, on a plane and was so impressed by her sweet soul he wrote to me. We corresponded for a couple years and lost touch when I moved. Our daughters were the same age and corresponded also.

If those that work at the IAEA are as intelligient and honest as he, I believe them completely about Iran.

I am so not surprised these asshats are re-running propaganda for Iran. :grr:

Thanks autorank! :hi:

Oh, number 5 k and r!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:47 AM
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14. What a great story...and contact.
It's like we live in a parallel universe and the * ites are saying "Everything you know is wrong" (for those old enough, that's a funny reference).

Thank you for #5. This is some story.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 06:26 AM
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15. I was just called a traitor.
A man contacted me from an online dating service. When I wrote how excited I am to be going to the CSNY concert Sept.10, he got nasty and called me a traitor.

I pointed out that those that fail to defend the Constitution are the traitors and included links. He obviously cannot read (my profile is rabid anti-*)or he wouldn't have contacted me in the first place.

Haven't heard back, wonder why?! lol

Bizarro world for sure autorank.

""Everything you know is wrong" sounds so familiar. The Firesign Theater?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:25 PM
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21. Correct! ...Firesign Theater for $800!
You do defend the Constitution! Everything about * represents tyranny or a move toward that.

Loser guy! Enjoy the concert! Lots of cool people to meet!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:56 PM
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11. from sourcewatch
"Abram Shulsky launched his career under the tutelage of Roy Godson, son of a leading AFL-CIO International Department counterinsurgent, Joseph Godson; and he first got into the 'intelligence business' as a staffer for Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) poster-boy Sen. Daniel P. Moynihan in the late 1970s, eventually becoming staff director of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and, later, of President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB)."<2>

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Abram_N._Shulsky
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:47 PM
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12. ahhhh Larisa
She knows, and has always known

what this cabal has been up to

Cheney f___ing Cheney.......

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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:04 PM
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13. Good God.
Pentagon Iranian Directorate??

And they need this after corrupting, co-opting, and gutting the CIA?

These guys are fucking up America beyond belief.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:20 AM
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17. "It is all about the neocons"
Thank you for making us the most hated country on the planet, neocons. I feel so safe.
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msedano Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:47 AM
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18. Iran smokescreen or patently obvious?
the pinhead cabal in the oval office may be doing some misdirection, get the gullible all worked up about Iran then pull a nine one one surprise and attack Puerto Rico owing to that island's close ties with Hugo Chavez--they speak the same language and it ain't Inglish.

poof poof, don't get all worked up that Puerto Rico is a US possession, just a technical detail.

evidently i am now qualified to recommend threads.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:10 AM
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19. here's some bullshit fer ya: "iran" bombs kurds
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2464428

but if you read the article you see it's really Turkey -- yeah, that Turkey -- the one who is supposed to be our ally, and the one that has been chomping at the bit for northern iraq for ??? how long, now?
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:43 AM
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20. k/r n/t
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 04:06 PM
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22. :D
:blush:
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 04:10 PM
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23. Wonder if Wolf Blitzer will bring this up..
..next time he fearmongers about Iran?

..which he seems to do at least once a day. My guess is no.
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