Reminder to Cheney & Hatch: Al Qaeda waited until Bush was President

[smoogatz]

before killing 3,000 Americans on 9/11, 2001. Obviously they chose to wait until Clinton left office, because they'd had extremely bad luck attacking domestic targets under his watch. Bush made it eminently clear that his attention was focused elsewhere; you know, building boondoggle anti-missile systems, handing out those fabulous $300 tax cuts, and clearing brush on his Texas pig farm. As usual, the Republicans are trying to project their greatest weaknesses. Do they think the American people have forgotten who was in power on 9/11?

[Kagemusha]

1. Well, I disagree it's about the bad luck attacking domestic targets but...

And I'm not even sure this was at ALL a consideration.

But maybe the powers that be among terror organizations thought that a Republican president, perhaps this Republican president in particular, would react in the crude manner that they were obviously banking on to increase their long-term prospects for successful, broadening militancy against the US' allies in the Arab world.

[jwirr]

6. Especially an Oil pug pResident. If this war is all about oil then

the fight was between the oil men and the oil countries. I do not think this would have happened if it had been Al Gore. When the WTC was hit the first time, who was the president?

[smoogatz]

9. Clinton.

But the FBI (under Janet Reno) rolled up the whole plot in record time, and the perpetrators are still rotting in jail.

[orpupilofnature57]

14. And Poppy was Bandar's adopted Daddy already!!

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

2. Excellent point, one which I hadn't formulated. Pithy and understandable.

When a repub utters that nonsense, remind them who A.Q. preferred in charge for 9/11.

Nice! :applause: MKJ

[orpupilofnature57]

3. Al Qaeda waited 1000 yrs. for Shrub.

[ComerPerro]

4. say that on a News network and even the host will shout you down

and call you out for your hateful rhetoric.

That's why its so hard for Dems to get their message out.

Republicans hate all day, and they don't just get away with it, they are encouraged.

[deacon]

5. The GOP stinks when it comes to any war on terrorism-

Is the world a safer place?

[Blackthorn]

7. More "Al-Qaeda carried out 9/11" propaganda bullshit. n/t

[smoogatz]

8. Whatever, dude.

I guess the PNAC blew a thirty foot hole in the side of the USS Cole and destroyed our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, too. Or were you unaware of those little incidents?

On edit: I almost forget about the first WTC attack, in 1992. I guess the PNAC did that, too--and all those Arabs who were convicted of the crime were innocent patsies.

[Blackthorn]

18. I never referred to any of those incidents...

Nor did I imply who carried those attacks out. I referred specifically to 9/11 because specifically, there is SCIENTIFIC PROOF the WTC towers were brought down by explosives. Watch the movie Loose Change. It clearly documents that both WTC collapsed at the speed of gravity. Which means that each floor, as it fell and landed on the one below it, met ZERO resistance. IMPOSSIBLE without some strategic help.

So yeah, whatever.

[smoogatz]

21. There are scenarios in which the intentional demolition of the WTC

is not incongruent with an actual terrorist attack. And I don't think your argument about the buildings collapsing at the speed of gravity is the most compelling one in favor of demolition. But hey, it works for you.

So, who DID attack the WTC in 1992, and the two embassies, and the USS Cole? Al Qaeda--the Islamist jihadis who declared war on us in 1998, shortly before the embassies were destroyed? Or did the CIA do it, in order to, uh, further Clinton's evil agenda? Or is there a third theory I'm not aware of?

[Blackthorn]

27. But all those scenarios are incongruent with the "official" story.

"And I don't think your argument about the buildings collapsing at the speed of gravity is the most compelling one in favor of demolition. But hey, it works for you."

Well, that's all well and good what you think, but science KNOWS. The official theory, the "pancake" theory, stipulates that the weight from each floor caused the floor below it to give way. Each time the top floors fall there is a moment when they contact the floor below it and as each floor is securely attached the frame of the building there must be a moment, however short, where the falling floors are stopped; where the falling floors meet some resistance. Studying the video evidence, that did not happen. Each falling floor was met with ZERO resistance. Which means, each proceeding floor was already in free fall when the ones above it hit. Whihc mean, controlled demolition.

Not to mention the fact the ENTIRE spine of building was destroyed, right down to ground level.

And to answer your second question, yes, there is a third theory. Very much so. Most people are not ready for it, and I've been openly ridiculed for referring to it here. PM me if you're interested.

[Raydawg1234]

26. We never said that they faked ALL the terror attacks, just 9/11.

The attacks you refer to are typical of historical terror attacks, where Islamic terrorists attack the "near enemy" in their own backyard.

[savemefromdumbya]

10. Bush didn't use anti missile/aircraft systems atta Pentagon on 9/11

[smoogatz]

13. Bush was in Florida.

Then in Arkansas, then somewhere in Nebraska, I think--running and hiding and completely terrified. He had nothing to do with coordinating the military non-response to 9/11.

[Cha]

16. And bush was vacationing in

Crawford, Texas when the August 6th, 2001 memo came out regarding terrorists and airplanes. Al Gore would have caught that memo and saved them all.

[smoogatz]

20. Probably.

Gore would have taken Richard Clarke seriously, and was well acquainted w/ the threat posed by al Qaeda.

[Raydawg1234]

11. Yes Alqueda did wait, but only because they take their orders from Bush

[smoogatz]

12. That doesn't even make sense.

Why would Bush want the worst domestic terror attack in American history to happen on his watch?

[orpupilofnature57]

17. Terror and Fear have been ShrubCo's biggest Opportunity, 3 Generations

of High paid Workfare, and they're the people F.D.R. said "would feather their own cap, by plucking the wing of Democracy".

[Raydawg1234]

19. Becase: He got re-elected off it, It gave him a chance to invade Iraq, He

made money off it......

Come on, Bush benefited greatly from 9/11

[smoogatz]

22. It could have gone either way.

They couldn't have known that the media response, and the response of the electorate, would be so uniformly supportive after the attacks. There was a nearly even chance that the media and the public would turn against them post-9/11--especially after Bush's terrified performance during the attacks. They lucked out, and then, opportunists that they are, they milked it for all it was worth.

[Raydawg1234]

23. Have you seen PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses"?

Where they say that for in order to create a Global American Hegemony they will first need a "Pearl Harbor" like event to gain public support. PNAC was founded by such people as Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Jeb Bush, Paul Wolfowitz........

[smoogatz]

25. Thanks, I know all about the PNAC.

If my rich uncle Harry is murdered and I inherit, does that mean I killed him?

[Raydawg1234]

24. Or just watch this video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726&hl=en

[Cha]

15. Yes, al qaeda did wait until bush ignored

the August 6th memo and national security advisor condasleepy rice said they never could have imagined "airplanes into buildings"..:silly:

[LynnTheDem]

28. And OBL remains free...under BUSH'S watch.

Hmmmm....

[EFerrari]

29. 9/11 happened on Bush's watch. And nothing has gotten better

since then.

At least President Clinton had professionals working counter-terrorism at Cabinet level. Bush has only had cronies. And so we get terror alert after terror alert.

Republicans make a lot of noise. Too bad suicide bombers don't care about their noise machine. Ann Coulter is not a deterrent to terror. She is an international joke.

And meanwhile, here we sit.