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Mir Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 03:28 PM
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First Crack in Ramsey Suspect's Story
This perv claimed that he drugged the little girl and had sex with her before he killed her. However, the medical report says that there were no drugs in her system and that in regards to genetalia, everything was "normal" and "unremarakable." According to the evidence, she was neither drugged nor raped. This guy might just be some freak.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/jonbenet1.html

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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 03:29 PM
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1. His wife says he wasn't even in CO when the murder happened.
I'll give odds now that this guy is a serial confessor.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 03:35 PM
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6. I'm afraid you're right. Hope it's not true.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 03:30 PM
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2. Maybe he didn't want to go to prison in Thailand?
He's heard about the brutality. Maybe this was his way of escaping the Thailand prisons??
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 04:10 PM
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14. I believe he was arrested in Thailand only for the Jonbennet murder.
He had started his new job on Tuesday. So avoiding Thai prison doesn't make sense. Even if he didn't confess, he would be extradited.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 03:31 PM
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3. I think he was weighing his options . . .
Whether a Thai prison or an American prison would be better -- and decided that a sudden burst of patriotism was in order.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 03:32 PM
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4. First Crack"? Hardly. Read this LBN thread. Smart money is...
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 03:33 PM
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5. media now playing CYA big time!! this story is bullshit! n/t
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LordLovesAWorkingMan Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 03:35 PM
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7. Sorry, but
Edited on Thu Aug-17-06 03:44 PM by LordLovesAWorkingMan
There is something VERY wrong with the whole thing. This guy didn't do it.


Edited for content.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 03:38 PM
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8. You can tell by looking?
Wow. :eyes:
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LordLovesAWorkingMan Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 03:45 PM
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10. self-edited
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 04:09 PM
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13. no we can't tell by looking..but we can sure tell when his xwife says
he was with she and their 3 kids on xmas eve that night in a completely other state!

and 2 all day yesterday the media said they had this mans dna..now today..no they don't have the dna..

today he says he had sex with the child but forensic guys said no sexual penetration

and today the so called perp says he drugged the child while forensic people said the child had no drugs in her..

so does that need looking at the guy or what has been reported yesterday./and now a serious case of cover your ass by the media...
in their lies of ommission and blatant lies of yesterday??

serious back tracking today by the media!

fly
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 09:27 PM
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32. And his statement 'it was an accident' is completely incongruous with
the forensic evidence of a brutal murder...
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 10:01 AM
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33. I believe Richardo referred to LordLovesAWorkingMan, not you. -nt
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 03:42 PM
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9. ...
:wtf:
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 03:47 PM
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11. Tell Me More About These Impressive Powers You Have...
<< ...this dude doesn't even look too much like he likes girls. There is something VERY wrong with the whole thing. This guy didn't do it. >>

... what exactly about him makes him look like he doesn't like girls. Are you saying that you think he's gay?

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LordLovesAWorkingMan Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 03:51 PM
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12. I deleted the first sentence.
Thanks.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 04:44 PM
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22. But I Can't Un-Read It.
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LordLovesAWorkingMan Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 04:54 PM
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25. You CAN get over it, though.
You have that power. I didn't mean it, I apologize for it, and that pretty much settles it.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 05:03 PM
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27. That's Your Apology?? Really?
Edited on Thu Aug-17-06 05:11 PM by arwalden
:shrug:

I think I should probably let you know that most folks (myself included) don't generally consider "get over it" to be a phrase that accompanies a sincere or genuine apology.

:eyes:
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LordLovesAWorkingMan Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 05:29 PM
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30. Gee, sorry.
Didn't mean to hurt your feelings or sensibilities, or those of anyone else.

It was a silly thing to say, which is why I took it out myself. I guess I finally made one
of those 'mistakes' that I've heard so much about.

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jeanarrett Donating Member (813 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 04:13 PM
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15. Where on the autopsy report does it say that the
Edited on Thu Aug-17-06 04:13 PM by jeanarrett
genitalia were "unremarkable" and "normal?" The autopsy report was posted in another thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1930294&mesg_id=1930294

Says there were abrasions and vascular congestion in the vagina--that doesn't sound "normal" or "unremarkable."
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 04:40 PM
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20. Actually, the report never says that at all
If you read page 4 http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/jonbenet4.html it would seem to indicate quite the opposite, unless you find bruises, abrasions and blood to be unremarkable and normal.
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colinmom71 Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 04:59 PM
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26. Oh, that part of the report....
Is simply referencing that she had no congenital anamolies or deformities. It just means that her anatomy was medically normal for her gender and age.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 04:13 PM
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16. All I know is if the Boulder police blew this one...
they will be in deeper shit than ever. And it doesn't look good when they have a press conference with no new information just patting themselves and the ICE on the back.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 04:25 PM
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18. Yeah, the Denver cops blew it!!!
They are looking for a way out of this mess and would have arrested Jesus himself if he would have confessed to Jon Benet's murder.

There was something wrong with this whole thing from the "git-go". It was too pat!!! The guy is probably a pedophile but that doesn't make him a murderer. A "kook" yes, maybe a publicity seeking kook!!!
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 04:26 PM
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19. Denver police aren't involved
This is outside their jurisdiction.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 04:15 PM
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17. more here in LBN thread . . .
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 04:42 PM
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21. Starting to sound like a serial confessor
The "studying the case" part is a tipoff. Someone who did it and felt bad would avoid coverage like the plague.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 04:47 PM
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23. i have a theory
Edited on Thu Aug-17-06 04:48 PM by pitohui
my idea is that the dude did not want to stay in a thai prison, where life expectancy is very low and where HIV/AIDS is running wild so he decided to "confess" to get extradited to america where there are at least some programs and activities in prison

he may or may not be guilty but i'd like to see the dna
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GardeningGal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 05:21 PM
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29. He was only in a thai prison after being arrested for the murder.
He was arrested at the bording house he was staying in.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/9692909/detail.html


In Bangkok, police said Karr had been living in a dormitory-style guesthouse called The Blooms in a neighborhood of massage parlors and travel agents that cater to expatriate residents and sex tourists.

Suwat said U.S. authorities informed Thai police on Aug. 11 that an arrest warrant had been issued for Karr on charges of premeditated murder. The warrant was sent to Thai police on Wednesday.

"Through investigation we were able to determine where his residence was and the Thais arrested him," Hurst said. "He did not resist. He did express surprise."
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 04:48 PM
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24. Has Karr confessed to The Jack the Ripper killings yet?
:shrug:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 05:05 PM
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28. and the american media laps it up.
Good lap dog, gooooood lap dog.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 09:12 PM
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31. Yes, I think that this story is being unraveled as fast as it
came to the headlines yesterday.

In addition he said that killing her was an accident, while reports from the murder scene showed gruesome deliberate rage.

I feel bad for the family, that hopes that the chapter was finally over.
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